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  • Evil_Meat
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    #51
    Originally posted by TheUntouchable
    Linares will be the much bigger man in the ring, that won't help him. It's not about size, it's about skill and neither Rigondeaux nor Linares come close to Lomachenko, sorry.



    Handspeed is clearly Linares' standout quality. His "boxing skills" are average at world level, nothing special. Handspeed makes him look good. Similar to Khan. But Khan boxed at a much higher level obviously.
    Red k because I think you're an idiot. It's just my opinion though.

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    • TheUntouchable
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      #52
      Originally posted by Evil_Meat
      Red k because I think you're an idiot. It's just my opinion though.
      Red k? How old are you, 13 or 14? I don't care about internet points, bring some arguments to the table instead of insults and we can have a discussion.

      What makes Linares special in your opinion? If not handspeed?

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        #53
        Originally posted by BendOver
        I know you are sarcastic but lomachenko is a natural lightweight. ggg is not a massive mw and has kept his weight for all his career, props to him...


        lomachenko is very comfortable at 130, wasn't at 126 all that long ago, and he'll be 30 in a couple weeks.

        how is that a natural lightweight?


        i mean really, how is that a natural lightweight?

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        • FrankieClutch
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          #54
          I think Loma will stop Linares late. Not a quit job like Loma's last few opponents, I think he'll get a legitimate stoppage

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            #55
            Originally posted by New England
            lomachenko is very comfortable at 130, wasn't at 126 all that long ago, and he'll be 30 in a couple weeks.

            how is that a natural lightweight?


            i mean really, how is that a natural lightweight?
            I hate the whole "natural (insert weight class here)" stuff. If a fighter can make the weight, that's his damn weight class. Plain and simple.

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              #56
              Originally posted by FrankieClutch
              I hate the whole "natural (insert weight class here)" stuff. If a fighter can make the weight, that's his damn weight class. Plain and simple.


              i mean FFS these guys cannot use their eyes. lomachenko is a small guy. i had no beef with people calling crawford a big LW, the guy was huge and will finish his career at WW or maybe even 154. look at his bones. muscles and fat can be lost. bones stay the same in your adult life. lomachenko is actually a small guy. again, look at his bones.

              these narratives are shaped by epople who don't actually know what a "natural LW" or a "huge 130 lber" is. and of course, they're shaped by the agendas people have. lomachenko is a very good boxer. he's also ukranian and white, and that makes a lot of people on this forum insecure. so they shape these narratives based not on reality, but to detract. so lomachenko is somehow picking on smaller guys, even though he's not, and should fight mikey garcia or terrence crawford, much bigger guys, because they want him to lose.


              don't get me wrong, i'd love to see him fight garcia, but he's not picking on smaller guys because he's not. he's actually nota big 130 lber. he's just very, very good at boxing, and in his prime.

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              • FrankieClutch
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                #57
                Originally posted by New England
                i mean FFS these guys cannot use their eyes. lomachenko is a small guy. i had no beef with people calling crawford a big LW, the guy was huge and will finish his career at WW or maybe even 154. look at his bones. muscles and fat can be lost. bones stay the same in your adult life. lomachenko is actually a small guy. again, look at his bones.

                these narratives are shaped by epople who don't actually know what a "natural LW" or a "huge 130 lber" is. and of course, they're shaped by the agendas people have. lomachenko is a very good boxer. he's also ukranian and white, and that makes a lot of people on this forum insecure. so they shape these narratives based not on reality, but to detract. so lomachenko is somehow picking on smaller guys, even though he's not, and should fight mikey garcia or terrence crawford, much bigger guys, because they want him to lose.


                don't get me wrong, i'd love to see him fight garcia, but he's not picking on smaller guys because he's not. he's actually nota big 130 lber. he's just very, very good at boxing, and in his prime.
                The insecurities on both sides are comical. I'm just glad I can appreciate great boxing regardless of skin color, ethnic background, etc. All of that literally should mean nothing to anyone. I like Loma just as much as Crawford, I like Crawford just as much as I liked Pac, I liked Pac just as much as I liked Tim Bradley, I liked Bradley just as much as I liked Kelly Pavlik... boxing is boxing.

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                • BendOver
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by New England
                  lomachenko is very comfortable at 130, wasn't at 126 all that long ago, and he'll be 30 in a couple weeks.

                  how is that a natural lightweight?


                  i mean really, how is that a natural lightweight?
                  Well he fought at 132lbs in the amateurs. If I recall correctly, they have to weight the same day of the fight, probably just a few hours before their fight. If that is not a natural weight, then you tell me. Really tell me...

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by BendOver
                    Well he fought at 132lbs in the amateurs. If I recall correctly, they have to weight the same day of the fight, probably just a few hours before their fight. If that is not a natural weight, then you tell me. Really tell me...
                    In that case if every fighter was weighed in a few hours before their fight every fighter would be a weight class or two higher.

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                    • BendOver
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by chrisJS
                      In that case if every fighter was weighed in a few hours before their fight every fighter would be a weight class or two higher.
                      That is what they do in the amateurs. And not every fighter. for some biological reason, some fighters can trim down and gain the weight back. Others not so much. I like the same day weight in better. I think lomachenko is an amazing talent, and once he start fighting boxers at 135-140 (and I think 140 is a little bit of a stretch) you will see more competitive fights. Of course the opponent have to be good enough, if not, he will steamroll over them.

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