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Floyd Mayweather NEVER DARED TO BE GREAT
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Originally posted by daggum View Posthe was coming off the best run of his career. you are just using age to measure prime i see. he didn't start getting noticed till about 30 years old so we cant fantasy pretend what would have happened if he was 5 years younger. he was in the prime of his career. maybe not the physical prime of his life but thats debatable and for fantasy. for example oscar was younger than mccallum was when floyd fought him so oscar was closer to his career prime? no, cause he had one legit win in 4 years and that was over mayorga and and he never won another meaningful fight.
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Originally posted by Xi_ View PostYour boy that you quoted did...yet you didnt check him lmao. You have an agenda against Floyd admit it.Last edited by daggum; 01-25-2018, 11:18 PM.
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Originally posted by daggum View Postyou are going to try and nitpick when a guys prime was while at the same time saying floyd was teh best fighter of the last 25 years? you realize that doesnt really go together because the only way you can make that claim is if you completely ignore the how past it most of floyd's opponents were.
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Originally posted by daggum View Postyou are going to try and nitpick when a guys prime was while at the same time saying floyd was teh best fighter of the last 25 years? you realize that doesnt really go together because the only way you can make that claim is if you completely ignore the how past it most of floyd's opponents were.
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Originally posted by Xi_ View PostYes...y'all do it to floyd. Everybody else is fair game.
so when you say mccallum wasnt prime its highly debatable. when you say pac wasnt prime its pretty damn clear unless you have an agenda. he had recently been ko'd cold by a guy he had beaten twice already not a small detail! thats glaring. he hadn't scored a ko in 6 years. not a small detail! he lost to jeff horn shortly after and i dont think a prime pac loses to jeff horn. not a small detail! those are not nitpicks. they are clear indications this fighter is no longer the same.
you can do the same thing with oscar, mosley,and cotto. they just weren't the same fighters. marquez was moving up 2 weight divisions so thats not a very great win. corrales and castillo were solid fighters but not in the great category. guys like baldomir just no. canelo at 152? i guess we have to wait and see. if he keeps getting that judging that will probably become floyds best win so maybe we can put one great win over a prime opponent in the future. leonard still has 4 though and jones at least 2 so hes not going to catch them
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Originally posted by daggum View Postbut mccallum was on the best run of his career. you are nitpicking by finding something small and blowing it out of proportion. that small detail is his age and can easily be explained since he turned pro at age 25 and not age 18 like a lot of top boxers. so factually he was older but he didnt have as much wear and tear on his body as most.
so when you say mccallum wasnt prime its highly debatable. when you say pac wasnt prime its pretty damn clear unless you have an agenda. he had recently been ko'd cold by a guy he had beaten twice already not a small detail! thats glaring. he hadn't scored a ko in 6 years. not a small detail! he lost to jeff horn shortly after and i dont think a prime pac loses to jeff horn. not a small detail! those are not nitpicks. they are clear indications this fighter is no longer the same.
you can do the same thing with oscar, mosley,and cotto. they just weren't the same fighters. marquez was moving up 2 weight divisions so thats not a very great win. corrales and castillo were solid fighters but not in the great category. guys like baldomir just no. canelo at 152? i guess we have to wait and see. if he keeps getting that judging that will probably become floyds best win so maybe we can put one great win over a prime opponent in the future. leonard still has 4 though and jones at least 2 so hes not going to catch themLast edited by chrisJS; 01-25-2018, 11:41 PM.
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Originally posted by daggum View Postbut mccallum was on the best run of his career. you are nitpicking by finding something small and blowing it out of proportion. that small detail is his age and can easily be explained since he turned pro at age 25 and not age 18 like a lot of top boxers. so factually he was older but he didnt have as much wear and tear on his body as most.
so when you say mccallum wasnt prime its highly debatable. when you say pac wasnt prime its pretty damn clear unless you have an agenda. he had recently been ko'd cold by a guy he had beaten twice already not a small detail! thats glaring. he hadn't scored a ko in 6 years. not a small detail! he lost to jeff horn shortly after and i dont think a prime pac loses to jeff horn. not a small detail! those are not nitpicks. they are clear indications this fighter is no longer the same.
you can do the same thing with oscar, mosley,and cotto. they just weren't the same fighters. marquez was moving up 2 weight divisions so thats not a very great win. corrales and castillo were solid fighters but not in the great category. guys like baldomir just no. canelo at 152? i guess we have to wait and see. if he keeps getting that judging that will probably become floyds best win so maybe we can put one great win over a prime opponent in the future. leonard still has 4 though and jones at least 2 so hes not going to catch them
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