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  • rickJen
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    #81
    Any guess which one of these current top PBC fighters becoming a PPV star?
    Aren't they exposed enough on free tv?
    Oh wait...they don't fight often.

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      #82
      Any guess who?

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        #83
        Originally posted by genrick
        Any guess which one of these current top PBC fighters becoming a PPV star?
        Considering Haymon's plan for years has been to kill off PPV in the post-Mayweather era, I'd guess none of them.

        When Haymon has had a PPV worthy fight, he's put it on CBS instead of PPV.

        I suppose fans are supposed to be upset about not having to spend $75 for Haymon's best fights?

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          #84
          Originally posted by Boxing Scene
          PBC makes mediocre fighters rich fighting each other or subpar competition. Cherry Garcia and Chickenson are prime examples of how PBC has contributed to ruining boxing with mismatches and overpaid fighters.

          Garcia Rios should not be allowed to happen. Period.
          Being a bit of a Drama Queen aren't you , yeah Haymon ruining the sport by giving fans the majority of the best fights for the last 3 years.

          You think Garcia / Rios is such a disgrace to the sport but I don't see you posting and crying about Manny / Alvarado , Brook / some guy , Khan /Greco I guess it doesn't fit the narrative your trying to spin in your head. F.uckig Lame

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            #85
            Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
            Considering Haymon's plan for years has been to kill off PPV in the post-Mayweather era, I'd guess none of them.

            When Haymon has had a PPV worthy fight, he's put it on CBS instead of PPV.

            I suppose fans are supposed to be upset about not having to spend $75 for Haymon's best fights?
            he had a plan?

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              #86
              Originally posted by daggum
              he had a plan?
              He has more control of US boxing than ever before. He has more world champions than ever before. He has more leverage with the WBC, WBA and IBF than ever before. He has more control of Showtime than ever before and Showtime has a larger budget than ever before.

              You think this all happened without a plan?

              The dude made hundreds of millions of dollars in music before even getting into boxing. You think that happened without a plan?

              What exactly have you done with your life?

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                #87
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                He has more control of US boxing than ever before. He has more world champions than ever before. He has more leverage with the WBC, WBA and IBF than ever before. He has more control of Showtime than ever before and Showtime has a larger budget than ever before.

                You think this all happened without a plan?

                The dude made hundreds of millions of dollars in music before even getting into boxing. You think that happened without a plan?

                What exactly have you done with your life?
                he had more control when he started so you aren't making any sense. he was on a ton of networks with shows almost every week. now hes down to a couple with shows happening very rarely.

                as for having more world champs uh maybe? i dont have the numbers to compare and you probably don't either as that seems like a "pull out of your azz" stat but even if he does have more world champs that is actually a negative thing seeing as he has less slots and less shows. he simply doesn't have the budget he used to or the slots he used to so having all those fighters means what exactly? they sit on the sideline twiddling their thumbs. thats good for boxing how?

                hbo and espn are still beating showtime so cong**** on having more control on the third most successful platform. im sure that was his "plan" when he started right? use up all his money and come crying back to showtime to show all his fights. what a genius.

                what have i done with my life? this is my life! I'M FROM THE WBO bi-tch and we are taking over boxing! step aside mr. wba, wbc, ibf. your clown antics have gone on too long. you and haymon are going down!

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                  He has more control of US boxing than ever before. He has more world champions than ever before. He has more leverage with the WBC, WBA and IBF than ever before. He has more control of Showtime than ever before and Showtime has a larger budget than ever before.

                  You think this all happened without a plan?

                  The dude made hundreds of millions of dollars in music before even getting into boxing. You think that happened without a plan?

                  What exactly have you done with your life?
                  not for nothing but u are kind of a dk!! u think ur better than everyone with ur snide azz remarks. grow the fk up! u might know a lot about boxing but u dont have to try to put people down with ur answers. if u want to share ur behind the scenes knowledge than share it, dont be a dk about it to the people on here!

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by daggum
                    he had more control when he started so you aren't making any sense. he was on a ton of networks with shows almost every week. now hes down to a couple with shows happening very rarely.
                    Anybody can buy time on a bunch of networks. That is not control. Nobody expected the time buys to last long. What he was able to accomplish though was convincing Showtime to significantly increase their boxing budget. That is control. More money is being paid for Haymon's fights by TV networks than were being paid before.

                    You say shows happen rarely, but PBC & SHO just rolled out a dozen events. The PBC schedule blows the HBO schedule away in both quality and in quantity. How can you not see that Haymon's control of US boxing is growing and that HBO's is shrinking?


                    as for having more world champs uh maybe? i dont have the numbers to compare and you probably don't either as that seems like a "pull out of your azz" stat but even if he does have more world champs that is actually a negative thing seeing as he has less slots and less shows.
                    Hahahaha controlling more world titles is a BAD thing?!?!?!?! Do you have any idea how this business works? You need the titles to get dates. Showtime is giving more dates and paying more for them. This is a negative? WTF is wrong with you?


                    he simply doesn't have the budget he used to or the slots he used to so having all those fighters means what exactly? they sit on the sideline twiddling their thumbs. thats good for boxing how?
                    Who is giving you more good boxing than he is? Why is Haymon always held to a double standard? Look at SHO's first half of 2018 schedule. Look at HBO's first half of 2018 schedule. Which subscription gives you more **** for your buck? It's not even close.


                    hbo and espn are still beating showtime so cong**** on having more control on the third most successful platform.
                    He's being paid WAY MORE for those dates than HBO or ESPN are paying their promoters. Being in control of the largest budget is better than being in control of a smaller budget. HBO has more viewers, but pays peanuts. Would you rather be Haymon or would you rather be Duva? Be serious man. You're coming across like a fool.


                    im sure that was his "plan" when he started right? use up all his money and come crying back to showtime to show all his fights. what a genius.
                    Use up all of his money?!? Again, where do you get this stuff? He started with nearly a billion dollars. He has plenty left. He bought TV time for a couple years to get mainstream exposure for his stars and now Showtime is paying more than ever to show those stars.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by suffolkbull3
                      not for nothing but u are kind of a dk!!
                      I'm a **** to those who are ****s to others.

                      I treat people the way I see them treat others.

                      I would love to have civil intelligent adult discussions with reasonable people passionate about boxing, but there are very few of them here. Unfortunately, most of the posters on this site are haters and trolls.

                      If you can find an instance of me being a **** to someone who isn't usually a **** to others, I'll gladly apologize to them.

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