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  • Tony Trick-Pony
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    #91
    Originally posted by genrick
    Any guess which one of these current top PBC fighters becoming a PPV star?
    Aren't they exposed enough on free tv?
    Oh wait...they don't fight often.
    The lack of fights is my main complaint. They have put on some very good matches, no doubt, but that twice a year stuff is for big-time stars- not guys like the Charlos who are still developing or like Stevenson who is a star in Canada but nowhere else. I reiterate though that they have put on some great match-ups.

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      #92
      Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony
      The lack of fights is my main complaint. They have put on some very good matches, no doubt, but that twice a year stuff is for big-time stars- not guys like the Charlos who are still developing or like Stevenson who is a star in Canada but nowhere else. I reiterate though that they have put on some great match-ups.
      How many fighters are getting three dates a year from HBO?

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        #93
        Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
        How many fighters are getting three dates a year from HBO?
        Oh I'm not arguing over networks. I'm just saying that a fighter, especially coming up, would benefit from being more active. Most of them were in the past decades. It keeps a fighter sharp and more fighters get opportunities that way. It's better all the way around. Whatever the cause is, these guys need to be in the ring more.

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          #94
          Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony
          Oh I'm not arguing over networks.
          Then why are you singling out one network and not the other?

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            #95
            Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
            I'm a **** to those who are ****s to others.

            I treat people the way I see them treat others.

            I would love to have civil intelligent adult discussions with reasonable people passionate about boxing, but there are very few of them here. Unfortunately, most of the posters on this site are haters and trolls.

            If you can find an instance of me being a **** to someone who isn't usually a **** to others, I'll gladly apologize to them.
            i can appreciate that... fair enough.

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              #96
              Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
              Then why are you singling out one network and not the other?
              Well, HBO and Showtime has put on better fights overall and guys like Chavez Sr. would take fights on and sometimes off local networks to stay busy while having their best fights on HBO or Showtime. PBC has put on some great fights, but not compared to HBO and Showtime. I know that some PBC fights have been on there as well. It's really just about PBC overpaying and delivering little to the consumer with certain guys like Stevenson and others who get paid a lot for showcase fights and don't fight very often. Seems to screw over the consumer. Not that HBO and Showtime haven't done that, but Stevenson wasn't doing this before PBC along with many others. Don't you want to see these guys fight more often? I don't mind a showcase fight when the guy has another big fight on the horizon but when it's always a showcase fight, it gets dull.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony
                Well, HBO and Showtime has put on better fights overall and guys like Chavez Sr. would take fights on and sometimes off local networks to stay busy while having their best fights on HBO or Showtime.
                That was another era. Things haven't been that way in a long time. These days, there are very few places to get decent purses and those places only want you a couple times a year, if that.


                PBC has put on some great fights, but not compared to HBO and Showtime. I know that some PBC fights have been on there as well.
                Almost every fight on Showtime Championship Boxing is presented by PBC now, if not all of them. PBC has a virtual monopoly of Showtime Championship Boxing at this point.


                It's really just about PBC overpaying and delivering little to the consumer with certain guys like Stevenson and others who get paid a lot for showcase fights and don't fight very often.
                But for the $8.99 a month that Showtime costs, who is giving you more **** for your buck in US boxing than PBC is on Showtime? It's not even close. Stevenson is defending against one of the top contenders in the world in Badou Jack. If Stevenson fought more often, that would take dates from other fighters Showtime feels the public is more interested in. I really don't see how you can look at the PBC on SHO schedule and not think they're giving you your $8.99's worth.


                Seems to screw over the consumer. Not that HBO and Showtime haven't done that, but Stevenson wasn't doing this before PBC along with many others. Don't you want to see these guys fight more often? I don't mind a showcase fight when the guy has another big fight on the horizon but when it's always a showcase fight, it gets dull.
                So look at the HBO schedule at $14.99 a month and then look at the SHO schedule at $8.99 a month. Doesn't even seem close to me which network is giving you the better **** for your boxing buck. You go on and on about Stevenson, but if he's barely fighting, it's not like he's clogging up the SHO schedule.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                  That was another era. Things haven't been that way in a long time. These days, there are very few places to get decent purses and those places only want you a couple times a year, if that.




                  Almost every fight on Showtime Championship Boxing is presented by PBC now, if not all of them. PBC has a virtual monopoly of Showtime Championship Boxing at this point.




                  But for the $8.99 a month that Showtime costs, who is giving you more **** for your buck in US boxing than PBC is on Showtime? It's not even close. Stevenson is defending against one of the top contenders in the world in Badou Jack. If Stevenson fought more often, that would take dates from other fighters Showtime feels the public is more interested in. I really don't see how you can look at the PBC on SHO schedule and not think they're giving you your $8.99's worth.




                  So look at the HBO schedule at $14.99 a month and then look at the SHO schedule at $8.99 a month. Doesn't even seem close to me which network is giving you the better **** for your boxing buck. You go on and on about Stevenson, but if he's barely fighting, it's not like he's clogging up the SHO schedule.
                  If you're happy seeing these guys once or twice a year, that's fine. It's not for me, though. Before the PBC era, I do believe these fighters were busier. I'll look more into it though. Good post.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony
                    If you're happy seeing these guys once or twice a year, that's fine. It's not for me, though. Before the PBC era, I do believe these fighters were busier. I'll look more into it though. Good post.
                    So you're not interested in Showtime unless it's the same five fighters each fighting three times? I don't understand the logic.

                    Look at what Showtime Boxing gives you for $8.99 a month. Look at what HBO Boxing gives you for $14.99 a month. Can you seriously say HBO is the better bargain for boxing?

                    Showtime in just the first six months of the year is giving you:

                    Spence vs. Peterson for the IBF world championship.

                    Easter vs. Fortuna for the IBF world championship.

                    Garcia vs. Rios in a WBC world eliminator.

                    Benavidez vs. Gavril for the WBC world championship.

                    Wilder vs. Ortiz for the WBC world championship.

                    Charlo vs. Centeno for the WBC interim championship.

                    Prograis vs. Postol for the WBC interim championship.

                    Baranchyk vs. Yigit in an IBF world eliminator.

                    Lipinets vs. Marcia for the IBF world championship.

                    Barthelemy vs. Relikh for the WBA world championship.

                    Joshua vs. Parker for the WBA/IBF/WBO world championship.

                    Lara vs. Hurd for the WBA/IBF world championship.

                    Broner vs. Figueroa in a WBC world eliminator.

                    Davis vs. Dib in an IBF world eliminator.

                    Thurman vs. TBA for the WBC/WBA world championship.

                    Stevenson vs. Jack for the WBC world championship.

                    Santa Cruz vs. Mares for the WBA super world championship.

                    Charlo vs. TBA for the WBC world championship.

                    Spence vs. TBA for the IBF world championship.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                      So you're not interested in Showtime unless it's the same five fighters each fighting three times? I don't understand the logic.

                      Look at what Showtime Boxing gives you for $8.99 a month. Look at what HBO Boxing gives you for $14.99 a month. Can you seriously say HBO is the better bargain for boxing?

                      Showtime in just the first six months of the year is giving you:

                      Spence vs. Peterson for the IBF world championship.

                      Easter vs. Fortuna for the IBF world championship.

                      Garcia vs. Rios in a WBC world eliminator.

                      Benavidez vs. Gavril for the WBC world championship.

                      Wilder vs. Ortiz for the WBC world championship.

                      Charlo vs. Centeno for the WBC interim championship.

                      Prograis vs. Postol for the WBC interim championship.

                      Baranchyk vs. Yigit in an IBF world eliminator.

                      Lipinets vs. Marcia for the IBF world championship.

                      Barthelemy vs. Relikh for the WBA world championship.

                      Joshua vs. Parker for the WBA/IBF/WBO world championship.

                      Lara vs. Hurd for the WBA/IBF world championship.

                      Broner vs. Figueroa in a WBC world eliminator.

                      Davis vs. Dib in an IBF world eliminator.

                      Thurman vs. TBA for the WBC/WBA world championship.

                      Stevenson vs. Jack for the WBC world championship.

                      Santa Cruz vs. Mares for the WBA super world championship.

                      Charlo vs. TBA for the WBC world championship.

                      Spence vs. TBA for the IBF world championship.
                      You're excited, bro. I'm happy for you. We just disagree here is all. Take it sleazy.

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