Comments Thread For: Amir Khan Returning To The Sport, Matchroom Bound

[Ray*]

Will have to agree to disagree, especially if Wilder blows through Ortiz and Joshua blows through Parker, both fights on Showtime.

Time will show who's right

With time yes, for now no ******** way. But like you said we can always agree to disagree.

[Tygshsu]

Anthony Joshua vs Deontay Wilder, for the undisputed heavyweight championship is the biggest fight for both guys (for all the talk of Joshua-Fury, it may do monster business in the UK, but US viewers will remember the **** style performance against Klitschko and not bother with the fight any extra).

Showtime likely would've loved to have Joshua fight in the US first, but a lot of what was missed (making the media rounds, for the most part) can be made up with an aggressive fight tour (hit ESPN, New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, Atlanta, Miami, and Las Vegas and you'd cover the US press while also giving the traveling boxing press enough to get their stories in too; add London/Manchester/Cardiff/Birmingham to cover the UK, and Frankfurt/Paris for Europe and you've got the bases covered).

Eddie Hearn has one fighter on HBO, with HBO having not bought a single fight from him yet; the coziness of said relationship is drastically overstated, imo.

The fact that Hearn has kept on saying he will increase his dates specfically on HBO tells you what he is planning to do.Using Joshua as leverage to get more dates,Hearn only has Joshua who can bring in the money why the hell would he risk him getting knocked out by Wilder when he can use Povetkin and Fury as a excuse to hold it.Once Hearn finds someone he can replace Joshua with or Joshua's Popularity and PPV sales dingle that's when we will see Wilder v Joshua.

[Sir_Didymus]

Kell Brook's home arena is something like 10,000 seats; Amir Khan hasn't fought in the UK in how long, but I doubt he sold out M.E.N. when he last fought in the UK (Google search shows that he's fighting at the 10k-seat Echo Arena near the end of April).

Do you honestly believe, in your heart of hearts, that StubHub is going to put themselves on the hook for needing to re-sell 70k+ seats (I have no idea how extensive the buy figure is going to be for the Fight Pass fans)? lol.

10,000? No. The capacity is 32,000 and it was close to being full. Declared a sellout as always with Matchroom because of the above mentioned StubHub deal. I was there and there was an empty stand but that could have been for maintenance or safety I don't know.

They are being very shrewd at Matchroom. They are keeping Khan away from the Sheffield crowd and starting him off in the Liverpool market to draw the Liverpool casuals in and the Scousers from Liverpool love their boxing.

Khan has also done so much for boxers out of Liverpool. He's literally gave most of the Liverpool fighters a gym, sparring work and work in general around boxing related events. Most of the Smith family (7 brothers I think) have all a lot to thank Khan for. It's only 11,000 capacity and will sell quick.

After that if Khan delivers a name it's looking likely that Hearn wants him for his Matchroom USA venture. Either he ends up being one of the main attractions on an undercard or co-main event with AJ with Jacobs on the undercard too or they'll take him to his hometown Bolton stadium which also has 30,000. He will fill that easy too. Khan has financially supported Bolton football club and done a lot of promotional work for Bolton football club in the past also.

You put Brooks 30,000 and Khans 30,000, Liverpool's 10,000 then the fans from the rest of the UK population especially from the London area that love boxing as an event then you've got a huge event with the shady as ever StubHub.

Those are completely different sets of fans BTW. They are mainly supporters of the football club the boxing event is being held at along with being fans/haters of the headlining act.

This grudge match has been fueled over a decade. Moaners can moan but it is still THE most anticipated fight in Britain.

Besides if chumps like Bellew and Haye can do 30,000...twice...and AJ vs Takam on short notice can do 70,000...doesn't take a genius to figure out Hearn and StubHub will be chomping at the bits to make this the first ever fight to either fill Old Trafford at 70,000 capacity for the Northerners or continue to do Wembley where it more or less has become the boxing capital of Europe. Northern fans are far more into their stadium gigs than Southerners BUT because there's more money to be generated in London down South so by default became the best place to do business.

All it will really take to guarantee that is Hearn stirring the pot getting Brook to jump into the ring WWE style and talk trash, even though he can't and will probably offer him chocolate brownies like a weirdo, then Khan to do the same after Brooks second fight and keep the ball rolling.

Hearn is already planning something unique anyway. Go listen to all his recent interviews he keeps alluding to a unique event which is in the works which will be a first and a first for boxing and Matchroom. The thing is for this event and venture he mentions AJ, Jacobs and Khan. Brook is not a part of this. I'm guessing it's something to do with the Matchroom USA thing they want to kick off.

[Tygshsu]

10,000? No. The capacity is 32,000 and it was close to being full. Declared a sellout as always with Matchroom because of the above mentioned StubHub deal. I was there and there was an empty stand but that could have been for maintenance or safety I don't know.

They are being very shrewd at Matchroom. They are keeping Khan away from the Sheffield crowd and starting him off in the Liverpool market to draw the Liverpool casuals in and the Scousers from Liverpool love their boxing.

Khan has also done so much for boxers out of Liverpool. He's literally gave most of the Liverpool fighters a gym, sparring work and work in general around boxing related events. Most of the Smith family (7 brothers I think) have all a lot to thank Khan for. It's only 11,000 capacity and will sell quick.

After that if Khan delivers a name it's looking likely that Hearn wants him for his Matchroom USA venture. Either he ends up being one of the main attractions on an undercard or co-main event with AJ with Jacobs on the undercard too or they'll take him to his hometown Bolton stadium which also has 30,000. He will fill that easy too. Khan has financially supported Bolton football club and done a lot of promotional work for Bolton football club in the past also.

You put Brooks 30,000 and Khans 30,000, Liverpool's 10,000 then the fans from the rest of the UK population especially from the London area that love boxing as an event then you've got a huge event with the shady as ever StubHub.

Those are completely different sets of fans BTW. They are mainly supporters of the football club the boxing event is being held at along with being fans/haters of the headlining act.

This grudge match has been fueled over a decade. Moaners can moan but it is still THE most anticipated fight in Britain.

Besides if chumps like Bellew and Haye can do 30,000...twice...and AJ vs Takam on short notice can do 70,000...doesn't take a genius to figure out Hearn and StubHub will be chomping at the bits to make this the first ever fight to either fill Old Trafford at 70,000 capacity for the Northerners or continue to do Wembley where it more or less has become the boxing capital of Europe. Northern fans are far more into their stadium gigs than Southerners BUT because there's more money to be generated in London down South so by default became the best place to do business.

All it will really take to guarantee that is Hearn stirring the pot getting Brook to jump into the ring WWE style and talk trash, even though he can't and will probably offer him chocolate brownies like a weirdo, then Khan to do the same after Brooks second fight and keep the ball rolling.

Hearn is already planning something unique anyway. Go listen to all his recent interviews he keeps alluding to a unique event which is in the works which will be a first and a first for boxing and Matchroom. The thing is for this event and venture he mentions AJ, Jacobs and Khan. Brook is not a part of this. I'm guessing it's something to do with the Matchroom USA thing they want to kick off.

Brook has always been a bit dodgy.Khan you get what you see.Deluison.With Brook the stabbing ****,Him being a ****,tbh i saw his Bird at the Spence Fight why the hell would he leave her,she's gold.Brook and Chocolate Brownies he is so cringe but i still love the guy,he is so talented and he and Hearn threw it away against Golvokin.Imagine if he hadnt faced GGG,he would've beaten Spence on points and then he would'vd big fights in America but he chucked it away

[Scipio2009]

The fact that Hearn has kept on saying he will increase his dates specfically on HBO tells you what he is planning to do.Using Joshua as leverage to get more dates,Hearn only has Joshua who can bring in the money why the hell would he risk him getting knocked out by Wilder when he can use Povetkin and Fury as a excuse to hold it.Once Hearn finds someone he can replace Joshua with or Joshua's Popularity and PPV sales dingle that's when we will see Wilder v Joshua.

If that is what you think, so be it.

I think you're wildly off, but whatever; HBO has been putting less and less money behind boxing, while Showtime is increasing the budget.

You add that the UFC deal is still in the lurch, and Hearn would be a fool to abandon the network that's breaking Anthony Joshua in the US (after also helping with Kell Brook, Katie Taylor, and even opening up space for Hearn's 2016 Olympian class).

Stay salty, lol

[Sir_Didymus]

Brook has always been a bit dodgy.Khan you get what you see.Deluison.With Brook the stabbing ****,Him being a ****,tbh i saw his Bird at the Spence Fight why the hell would he leave her,she's gold.Brook and Chocolate Brownies he is so cringe but i still love the guy,he is so talented and he and Hearn threw it away against Golvokin.Imagine if he hadnt faced GGG,he would've beaten Spence on points and then he would'vd big fights in America but he chucked it away

Brook has always been suspect.

As a boxer however he had a lot of potential. A lot. Could have been something special. Instead he just became a bum slayer and even his own fanboys would admit this that he has fought nothing but bums. 35 bums on his record. If you add up their losses it comes to something like 950 apparently which I keep hearing which is ridiculous. Nobody has those numbers at the top of the game.

Khan at least achieved a lot and fought some big names along with 13 world champions and headlined all over Vegas at MGM multiple times and T-Mobile arenas first big fight, Mandalay hotel Vegas multiple times, Madison Square garden NY, Barclays centre NY, Convention Centre Washington...

This is something no British boxer has ever done. Probably never will. Most Brits fight once in America and it's a wrap.

Brook was very talented. I'll never understand why he didn't challenge himself because he was around in the top ten rankings when Mayweather, Pacquaio, Cotto etc were all in their prime. I find it really hard to believe fights with Rios, Alexander (three times they could have made this fight), Bradley, Chaves (not postponed because of injury...just ducked), Vargas (easiest unification fight ever but not for Brook) and most recently it's been confirmed he ducked Cotto when given three months to make weight.

That begs the question...just how heavy is Brook? I know for a fact he walked around at 185lb for welterweight this is well documented and why everyone doesn't dispute he is physically the biggest welterweight of recent times. If he can't make a higher weight of 154lb for Cotto...just how heavy is this fùck? He's an obvious weight bully who would get destroyed at 154lb that is full of fighters his own size and bigger. A lot of them are 154lb should be at 160lb already. So why has he made a career out of calling out a fùcking lightweight in Khan? Simple. He wants the easiest fights possible. Always has.

Brook might be technically a sound boxer but he does not have the heart of a true fighter. His recent fights which were the first time he's actually stepped up and his record proves this.

Khan on the other hand does have the heart of a fighter. He's been a real cúnt outside of the ring no doubt but as a boxer...he's got the right mindset.

Always wanting to challenge himself chasing the big fights, big names the big money. Always deluding himself into thinking he's a cut above even if he isn't as most boxers should and more importantly he's aware of his weaknesses and couldn't give two fùcks like a true fighter whether he gets iced he'll still throw them hands even in hostile territory.

As chinny as he is that kid is mentally strong and rightfully so is far more well paid than Brook and with just two signatures on a contract with Hearn and the separate contract with Sky he just got paid more than Brook ever has for a fight.

Noticed how even Khans biggest hater, who is also Kell Brooks biggest díck rider because he too was an Ingle fighter, Johnny Nelson is now sucking his cóck? 😂😂😂

That must hurt.

[Scipio2009]

10,000? No. The capacity is 32,000 and it was close to being full. Declared a sellout as always with Matchroom because of the above mentioned StubHub deal. I was there and there was an empty stand but that could have been for maintenance or safety I don't know.

They are being very shrewd at Matchroom. They are keeping Khan away from the Sheffield crowd and starting him off in the Liverpool market to draw the Liverpool casuals in and the Scousers from Liverpool love their boxing.

Khan has also done so much for boxers out of Liverpool. He's literally gave most of the Liverpool fighters a gym, sparring work and work in general around boxing related events. Most of the Smith family (7 brothers I think) have all a lot to thank Khan for. It's only 11,000 capacity and will sell quick.

After that if Khan delivers a name it's looking likely that Hearn wants him for his Matchroom USA venture. Either he ends up being one of the main attractions on an undercard or co-main event with AJ with Jacobs on the undercard too or they'll take him to his hometown Bolton stadium which also has 30,000. He will fill that easy too. Khan has financially supported Bolton football club and done a lot of promotional work for Bolton football club in the past also.

You put Brooks 30,000 and Khans 30,000, Liverpool's 10,000 then the fans from the rest of the UK population especially from the London area that love boxing as an event then you've got a huge event with the shady as ever StubHub.

Those are completely different sets of fans BTW. They are mainly supporters of the football club the boxing event is being held at along with being fans/haters of the headlining act.

This grudge match has been fueled over a decade. Moaners can moan but it is still THE most anticipated fight in Britain.

Besides if chumps like Bellew and Haye can do 30,000...twice...and AJ vs Takam on short notice can do 70,000...doesn't take a genius to figure out Hearn and StubHub will be chomping at the bits to make this the first ever fight to either fill Old Trafford at 70,000 capacity for the Northerners or continue to do Wembley where it more or less has become the boxing capital of Europe. Northern fans are far more into their stadium gigs than Southerners BUT because there's more money to be generated in London down South so by default became the best place to do business.

All it will really take to guarantee that is Hearn stirring the pot getting Brook to jump into the ring WWE style and talk trash, even though he can't and will probably offer him chocolate brownies like a weirdo, then Khan to do the same after Brooks second fight and keep the ball rolling.

Hearn is already planning something unique anyway. Go listen to all his recent interviews he keeps alluding to a unique event which is in the works which will be a first and a first for boxing and Matchroom. The thing is for this event and venture he mentions AJ, Jacobs and Khan. Brook is not a part of this. I'm guessing it's something to do with the Matchroom USA thing they want to kick off.

lol. They ran Brammall Lane one time, and Showtime was public with their 27000 in attendance figure.

Glad that you're acknowledging Echo Arena only has 10,000 seats, but where did you magically find Amir Khan's 30,000 seats sold nonsense?

Even if you simply assume that both fighters will bring their record attendances as tickets sold, you're still only locked in for 45000 tickets, for a non-London venue that'd seat something like 70000 fans for a sellout.

Even in your most optimistic scenario, StubHub buying even 25000 face value seats, in the hope of re-selling them in a market that you're openly admitting has to less money in it than London, is a ridiculous notion on it's face.

Literally makes no sense.

Anthony Joshua has the potential to be the biggest draw in all of boxing (as long as he keeps performing well), Daniel Jacobs has six fights on HBO to become something (as long as he keeps winning, they can't deny him Canelo Alvarez), and Amir Khan is only signed to Matchroom Sport for three fights (with Amir Khan doing his darnedest to avoid any and every fighter who can even punch with even the hint of timing; Kell Brook has basically given his career under Hearn, capitalized on the Golovkin situation, fought the next welterweight kingpin to a 50/50 exciting stalemate before the other eye went, and is openly positioned to win a world title at 154 and get another chance to stake a claim against whomever emerges from the Lara/Charlo/Hurd shakeout).

Not the trickiest thing to figure out.

Anthony Joshua as the global heavyweight attraction, Daniel Jacobs emerging as THE middleweight attraction on both sides of the Atlantic, Kell Brook standing in as the UK attraction as WBO 154lb champion (defending his belt as he weights on unification, likely to be held in the UK, once you figure the money involved), and Amir Khan finally delivering the fight that Brits have been asking Eddie for for years.

Why bet anything longterm on the fighter you know can't beat the top challengers head-to-head? Thurman, Spence, Porter, Garcia all beat Amir Khan, Jessie Vargas (with the McCallum connection seemingly helping him relax to ease over his heavy shots) is another guy that Khan likely doesn't want to see, and even Jeff Horn, as crude and rough as his style is, is a couple clean shots away from messing things up for Khan too.

[Sir_Didymus]

lol. They ran Brammall Lane one time, and Showtime was public with their 27000 in attendance figure.

Glad that you're acknowledging Echo Arena only has 10,000 seats, but where did you magically find Amir Khan's 30,000 seats sold nonsense?

Even if you simply assume that both fighters will bring their record attendances as tickets sold, you're still only locked in for 45000 tickets, for a non-London venue that'd seat something like 70000 fans for a sellout.

Even in your most optimistic scenario, StubHub buying even 25000 face value seats, in the hope of re-selling them in a market that you're openly admitting has to less money in it than London, is a ridiculous notion on it's face.

Literally makes no sense.

Anthony Joshua has the potential to be the biggest draw in all of boxing (as long as he keeps performing well), Daniel Jacobs has six fights on HBO to become something (as long as he keeps winning, they can't deny him Canelo Alvarez), and Amir Khan is only signed to Matchroom Sport for three fights (with Amir Khan doing his darnedest to avoid any and every fighter who can even punch with even the hint of timing; Kell Brook has basically given his career under Hearn, capitalized on the Golovkin situation, fought the next welterweight kingpin to a 50/50 exciting stalemate before the other eye went, and is openly positioned to win a world title at 154 and get another chance to stake a claim against whomever emerges from the Lara/Charlo/Hurd shakeout).

Not the trickiest thing to figure out.

Anthony Joshua as the global heavyweight attraction, Daniel Jacobs emerging as THE middleweight attraction on both sides of the Atlantic, Kell Brook standing in as the UK attraction as WBO 154lb champion (defending his belt as he weights on unification, likely to be held in the UK, once you figure the money involved), and Amir Khan finally delivering the fight that Brits have been asking Eddie for for years.

Why bet anything longterm on the fighter you know can't beat the top challengers head-to-head? Thurman, Spence, Porter, Garcia all beat Amir Khan, Jessie Vargas (with the McCallum connection seemingly helping him relax to ease over his heavy shots) is another guy that Khan likely doesn't want to see, and even Jeff Horn, as crude and rough as his style is, is a couple clean shots away from messing things up for Khan too.

I didn't say Khan sold 30,000. I said Bolton stadium capacity is 30,000. Please read carefully. I also said 30,000 is nothing with Matchroom and StubHub behind him. Nothing at all and I showed why because if chumps like Bellew and Haye can do those numbers you think Khan can't with a decent name? Yeah. O...K.

Once again, read carefully. You said Bramhall lane was 10,000. I corrected you and said it was 32,000. I said Echo stadium in Liverpool is 10,000-11-000.

You're underestimating Eddie Hearn the slimy bastard. Why else do you think people don't like him? In his own words "I know the hardcore's don't like the casuals but fùck me...there's a lot of casuals and they bring the money!!".

He's also said that Khan is part of the Matchroom USA venture. Not Brook like you're dreaming of so that's another one you got wrong.

Did you just say Brook is going to face one whichever fighter emerges from Lara/Charlo/Hurd? LMFAO!! Calm down, fanboy. It's already official that Hearn and Brook have openly declared they are aiming for Sadam Ali ������

Did you also say Jacobs is "THE" attraction at middleweight on both sides of the Atlantic? O...K.

He's not. At all. Not even close. Or did you miss the numbers for his last fight? He's what you call a good undercard filler for AJ with the potential to headline against opponents like Canelo/GGG/Charlo if they get made. Saunders has obviously priced himself out already. Saying that Hearn is throwing his weight around and could potentially put up the £5m Saunders wants just so Hearn can get rid of Warren's current cash cow in waiting with GGG/Canelo wanting that belt.

He'll make bank with Khan and he knows how to milk it for everything it's worth and no, he's not going to let Khan try and ruin himself by being the dumb bastard he is wanting to face the best like Spence. He's going to pump him full of names like Broner. Beatable high profile names. With Khans vulnerabilities and suspect chin he might not even see the 3rd fight which might be either a calculated targeted title shot or Brook who has just claimed to wanting to retire before the year is out.

Call a Spade a Spade and don't let your fanboyism get in the way of logic. I will kindly ask you again to read carefully and at least go off the words of Hearn and the history of Matchroom and the shadiest deal ever with StubHub and how they actually work.

[Tygshsu]

Brook has always been suspect.

As a boxer however he had a lot of potential. A lot. Could have been something special. Instead he just became a bum slayer and even his own fanboys would admit this that he has fought nothing but bums. 35 bums on his record. If you add up their losses it comes to something like 950 apparently which I keep hearing which is ridiculous. Nobody has those numbers at the top of the game.

Khan at least achieved a lot and fought some big names along with 13 world champions and headlined all over Vegas at MGM multiple times and T-Mobile arenas first big fight, Mandalay hotel Vegas multiple times, Madison Square garden NY, Barclays centre NY, Convention Centre Washington...

This is something no British boxer has ever done. Probably never will. Most Brits fight once in America and it's a wrap.

Brook was very talented. I'll never understand why he didn't challenge himself because he was around in the top ten rankings when Mayweather, Pacquaio, Cotto etc were all in their prime. I find it really hard to believe fights with Rios, Alexander (three times they could have made this fight), Bradley, Chaves (not postponed because of injury...just ducked), Vargas (easiest unification fight ever but not for Brook) and most recently it's been confirmed he ducked Cotto when given three months to make weight.

That begs the question...just how heavy is Brook? I know for a fact he walked around at 185lb for welterweight this is well documented and why everyone doesn't dispute he is physically the biggest welterweight of recent times. If he can't make a higher weight of 154lb for Cotto...just how heavy is this fùck? He's an obvious weight bully who would get destroyed at 154lb that is full of fighters his own size and bigger. A lot of them are 154lb should be at 160lb already. So why has he made a career out of calling out a fùcking lightweight in Khan? Simple. He wants the easiest fights possible. Always has.

Brook might be technically a sound boxer but he does not have the heart of a true fighter. His recent fights which were the first time he's actually stepped up and his record proves this.

Khan on the other hand does have the heart of a fighter. He's been a real cúnt outside of the ring no doubt but as a boxer...he's got the right mindset.

Always wanting to challenge himself chasing the big fights, big names the big money. Always deluding himself into thinking he's a cut above even if he isn't as most boxers should and more importantly he's aware of his weaknesses and couldn't give two fùcks like a true fighter whether he gets iced he'll still throw them hands even in hostile territory.

As chinny as he is that kid is mentally strong and rightfully so is far more well paid than Brook and with just two signatures on a contract with Hearn and the separate contract with Sky he just got paid more than Brook ever has for a fight.

Noticed how even Khans biggest hater, who is also Kell Brooks biggest díck rider because he too was an Ingle fighter, Johnny Nelson is now sucking his cóck? ������

That must hurt.

In my eyes Brook was fine until he made that fateful descion to divert from Vargas in March 2016 to Golvokin in September 2016.He should've fought Spence then instead of later.Other British boxers have done what Khan done,Lennox Lewis,Hatton,Hamed.Khan however still has got knocked out whenever he's stepped up,Garcia,Prescott.I wont count Canelo because that was a different situation.But Khan is a wasted talent aswell,this is the difference with British and American Trainers/Coaches,British Boxers dont get taught how to defend or taught on defence at all.North Americans are brilliant at this it's what sets them apart

[Tygshsu]

If that is what you think, so be it.

I think you're wildly off, but whatever; HBO has been putting less and less money behind boxing, while Showtime is increasing the budget.

You add that the UFC deal is still in the lurch, and Hearn would be a fool to abandon the network that's breaking Anthony Joshua in the US (after also helping with Kell Brook, Katie Taylor, and even opening up space for Hearn's 2016 Olympian class).

Stay salty, lol

I want Joshua to stay with Showtime as i want Joshua v Wilder as soon as possible.But i dont think it's going to happen just my opinion.Too easy for it to be True.But you still cant ignore the fact HBO still gets the higher audience and is a gateway for Foreign stars to break out in America.GGG,Kovalev etc