What was the Better Win- Floyd-Marquez or Loma-Rigo?

[Robbie Barrett]

How much did Floyd weigh in the ring against Marquez? Nobody knows. Anything you say is strictly theory.

Coming into the fight Mayweather-Marquez was considered a mismatch because of the weights. Lomachenko-Rigondeaux by many was considered a tough match to call and legions of fans picked Rigondeaux and this is all fact.

Like I said Marquez moved up more than did Rigo and had more disadvantages based on facts. Mayweather also cheated based on fact too.

How much does Mayweather always weigh? Around 150

Mayweather is held to an higher standard everyone knows that. Doesn't change that beating JMM was better than Rigo.

Fact are both moved up 2 divisions.
One was P4P 2 the other lower top 10.


Mayweather win was better.

[D4thincarnation]

In both instances you had a p4p guy in Floyd and Loma facing a smaller p4p guy in Marquez and Rigo.

Loma made the 130 pound limit. Floyd did not.

Marquez had never fought above 135. He jumped 12 pounds to fight Floyd.

Rigo had never fought above 122. He jumped 8 pounds to face Loma.

Floyd easily beat Marquez, dropping him en route to a UD.

Loma made Rigo quit after six, winning every round except for possibly the first.

How can Loma's NOT be more impressive, given the similarities?

Marquez had just stepped up to lightweight and was small at that weigh. He in fact stepped up 17 lbs in 18 months

Floyd beat Marquez convincingly, but never looked like getting Marquez out of their and was weary of Marquez.

[chrisJS]

How much does Mayweather always weigh? Around 150

Mayweather is held to an higher standard everyone knows that. Doesn't change that beating JMM was better than Rigo.

Fact are both moved up 2 divisions.
One was P4P 2 the other lower top 10.


Mayweather win was better.

According to whom? You quoted the ring as gospel the other day and they had Rigo at #4 so not lower half.

Neither win is great. Mayweather has no great wins and time will tell if Lomachenko can get any. Mayweather fans like to take a dump on any wins any other fighter gets but then prop his up too much. Marquez was clearly at a disadvantage but Floyd fans try and say he wasn't.

Marquez' weight gain was more lbs, higher % and that was on top of barely leaving 126. All facts that can be proven.

[D4thincarnation]

And Unlike Mayweather vs Marquez, the fans actually called for Loma vs Rigo and many people thought Rigo would win.

No one was calling for Marquez to fight Mayweather, and no one picked him to win.

[Mukuro]

A lot of ins and outs comparing the weight difference. I think Floyd benefited more from the overall size differential though.

The most relevant stats in the respective fights comes down to this: Floyd had a 5 inch reach advantage over Marquez (with a style to use every bit of it), and Rigo actually had a 2 1/2 inch reach advantage over Lomachenko.

There is more to consider of course, but I would say Loma's is more impressive based on the extent to which he ultimately toyed with Rigo. Floyd dominated, but he couldn't play games with Marquez.

Neither will prove to be either fighter's best win though. At least I hope that is true with Loma.

[D4thincarnation]

Also, this was Loma's 11th fight, while Mayweather had 40 odd fights by then.

[Robbie Barrett]

According to whom? You quoted the ring as gospel the other day and they had Rigo at #4 so not lower half.

Neither win is great. Mayweather has no great wins and time will tell if Lomachenko can get any. Mayweather fans like to take a dump on any wins any other fighter gets but then prop his up too much. Marquez was clearly at a disadvantage but Floyd fans try and say he wasn't.

Marquez' weight gain was more lbs, higher % and that was on top of barely leaving 126. All facts that can be proven.

Mayweather has no great wins? He beat 8 top 10 P4P fighters, 4 of those view as top 5 by most when he fought them.

Who's saying Marquez wasn't at a disadvantage? But Rigo was if anything at a bigger disadvantage. Lets not forget Mayweather was also coming off a 2 year lay off. Rigo had only boxed 3 rounds in 2 years also.

Mayweather fans just want fighters to be held to the same standard. If Mayweather get little to no credit for JMM, then Loma shouldn't either. That's fair.

[Robbie Barrett]

Also, this was Loma's 11th fight, while Mayweather had 40 odd fights by then.

I guarantee Loma had boxed more competitive rounds by then than Mayweather did in their careers. Loma fans brag about amateur records then choose to "forget" when it suits them.

[GhostofDempsey]

Don't forget Floyd demanded a catch weight for Marquez...and then he didn't make weight for his own CW! And he refused to be weighed on day of fight. Imagine if Loma pulled that shyt.

[KillaMane26]

Rigo undefeated and one of the most avoided fighters in the lower weight class. And Floyd came in overweight