What was the Better Win- Floyd-Marquez or Loma-Rigo?

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  • Thraxox
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    #21
    Loma-Rigo, this is not a debate. One fight, fans were yearning all year for it, and people were excited as the fight and progresses to happen despite the two weight class jump and was basically viewed as a 60-40 fight. And on the other Marquez recently turned lightweight from featherweight suddenly jumping to weight classes for no reason and got cheated on the scales while fans on the other hand were just waiting and wailing and complaining on how much of a mismatch this fight is.

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    • b00g13man
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      #22
      Marquez was in a better place than Rigo, and Floyd was in a worse place than Loma due to inactivity.

      The important thing is Marquez was a throwaway win for Floyd, while Rigo is Loma's best. That speaks volumes.

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      • Mr Objecitivity
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        #23
        Vasyl Lomachenko vs Guillermo Rigondeaux was historically a more significant bout. It was the first time two two time Olympic gold medalists ever faced each other in a professional bout. Thus, Lomachenko's win will historically be a greater achievement because it is a more unique / special / distinctive accomplishment. On the other hand, Mayweather's win over Marquez doesn't have any distinctive significance. There aren't any distinctive features in the bout between Mayweather and Marquez. It was just a typical bout where one boxer moves up a weight division or two to face a boxer in a higher weight division who is acclimated in that weight division. Whilst Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux was unique because two boxers with such pedigrees never faced each other professionally before from a historical standpoint.

        Also, the odds were far more favorable pre-fight for Rigondeaux to win compared to Marquez. Even though Lomachenko was the favorite, he wasn't a favorite by the same margin as Mayweather was against Marquez since very few made Marquez the favorite to beat Mayweather whilst many more individuals made Rigondeaux the favorite to beat Lomachenko.

        Also, I believe Rigondeaux is the more skilled boxer than Marquez. Rigondeaux is defensively far slicker, more elusive and subsequently much more difficult to land punches on. He is also arguably the sharper counter puncher (didn't look that way against Lomachenko but did in past bouts like against Nonito Donaire).

        Also, both Lomachenko and Rigondeaux made weight as agreed in the contract whilst Mayweather failed. Thus, Lomachenko was more impressive for this reason as well.

        Also, neither Mayweather or Lomachenko relied much on their size advantage over their smaller sized opponents and instead relied on boxing skills (hitting and not getting hit). Both Lomachenko and Mayweather did equally as well as each other in the defensive department. However, Lomachenko seemed like he did a little better offensively since at many points Lomachenko shook Rigondeaux's legs with some of the punches he landed. Especially in the last minute of the 6th round where Rigondeaux looked not only exhausted, but shaken up. I believe a stoppage was coming in the next 3 rounds and Rigondeaux quit because he could anticipate the inevitability. I don't think Rigondeaux's body would've recovered from the leg shaking punches he received in the 6th round.

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        • AllBoxingAD
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          #24
          Originally posted by daggum
          how did floyd perform better? lomachenko was facing the much more diffiucult slick style matchup with blazing hand speed and great defense and he barely got hit in the fight. floyd was facing a counterpuncher who was willing to take one to give one but that style obv didnt work against someone much bigger. and it went to decision while loma stopped his opponent. really strange how some people think
          Floyd performed better by landing whatever he wanted whenever he wanted.

          Loma couldnt land anything significant with any consistency.

          Rigo quit cause he realized he couldnt win and decided not to ride it out. JMM realized the same thing Rigo did probably even earlier then Rigo did but he decided not to quit.

          The phrase "Loma stopped Rigo" is hilarious when you actually watch the fight.

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          • Curt Henning
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            #25
            hmmmmm lets see....JMM at 147 gave pac hell and then knocked him into next year.....rigo at this class has done/will do what? maybe not fight again?

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            • Curt Henning
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              #26
              if rigo stays at this weight and then goes on to knock out a generational ATG then we can talk about maybe lomas being better

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              • Robbie Barrett
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                #27
                Mayweather-Marquez.

                Marquez was higher rated and there was less weight advantage in the ring.

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                • Tony Trick-Pony
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Curt Henning
                  if rigo stays at this weight and then goes on to knock out a generational ATG then we can talk about maybe lomas being better

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                  • Curt Henning
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by anthonydavid11
                    lolol

                    u know im right...

                    when rigo stays at this weight and knocks out a generational great we can talk about lomas win maybe being better than floyds...till then...forget it

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                    • chrisJS
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                      #30
                      Rigo looked better acclamated to the weight than Marquez who'd moved up two divisions after he had barely moved up two divisions. The physical matchup was more even in Loma-Rigo and then the controversy in refusing to weigh at the contracted weight and then he weighed the next day for Floyd. Loma-Rigo had a rehydration clause so if Loma really enters the ring as heavy as detractors say then he was drained for this fight too.

                      On top of that nobody said Marquez was going to win and nobody asked for the fight. People demanded Loma-Rigo and plenty of folks picked Rigo including a lot of Floyd fans.

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