Boxing amateur as amazing as Lomachenko?

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Appreciate the detailed, informative post. Teofilo I will be researching.

An interesting story about Teofilo is he was offered A LOT of money to turn pro and face Muhammad Ali in 1976, a fight he would’ve dominated as Ali was on the slide at that point. Teofilo turned the offer down and remained loyal to Cuba’s communist regime, and went on to live in relative poverty for the rest of his life. He has a famous quote about the offer which I can’t remember off the top of my head but it’s something along the lines of: “why do I need all that money? I can knock on any door in Cuba and they will feed me”.
You definitely need to research him man, he’s a true legend- 3x Olympic golds and also KO’d the eventual 1984 gold medalist Tyrell Biggs.

[Ogecca MaMa]

An interesting story about Teofilo is he was offered A LOT of money to turn pro and face Muhammad Ali in 1976, a fight he would’ve dominated as Ali was on the slide at that point. Teofilo turned the offer down and remained loyal to Cuba’s communist regime, and went on to live in relative poverty for the rest of his life. He has a famous quote about the offer which I can’t remember off the top of my head but it’s something along the lines of: “why do I need all that money? I can knock on any door in Cuba and they will feed me”.
You definitely need to research him man, he’s a true legend- 3x Olympic golds and also KO’d the eventual 1984 gold medalist Tyrell Biggs.

defenition of a man. nothing but true fame.

[yngwie]

An interesting story about Teofilo is he was offered A LOT of money to turn pro and face Muhammad Ali in 1976, a fight he would’ve dominated as Ali was on the slide at that point. Teofilo turned the offer down and remained loyal to Cuba’s communist regime, and went on to live in relative poverty for the rest of his life. He has a famous quote about the offer which I can’t remember off the top of my head but it’s something along the lines of: “why do I need all that money? I can knock on any door in Cuba and they will feed me”.
You definitely need to research him man, he’s a true legend- 3x Olympic golds and also KO’d the eventual 1984 gold medalist Tyrell Biggs.

Teofilo Stevenson actually lived quite well until his death, as much as you can expect in Cuba, he had a house, a car and didn't had to worry a lot about money since he was the man in there, he had drinking problem but in comparisson to Angel Herrera, Candelario Duvergel, Angel Espinosa, Mario Kindelan or any boxer that regretted never turning pro from Cuba, he actually lived well until his death.

[yngwie]

I always forget about Stanionis as well. The Welterweight division can be something special in a few years.
Yeleussinov, Giyasov, Rabii, McCormack, Kelly, Stanionis.
They're going to have to prove themselves first obviously.
How would you rate those guys?

Stanionis looks good to me, he is tough, has a good promoter in Schaefer and imo he can be a contender at least.
Giyasov imo is too raw, athletic, but i have never been impressed by him, although i was never impressed by Gaibnazarov until he turned pro, anyways, Zoirov, Dusmatov and Melekuziev are far better prospects.
Kelly is a little overrated i feel, he acts like the second coming of Roy Jones, but he actually can be quite beatable at the top level, if anything, when he fights people should think at the actual potential of Daniyar who is better than Kelly in every department besides beauty
Rabii is my guy, for me he was always the guy that needed to turn pro from welterweight, he picks his punches extremely well, is fast, has good technique and as a pro is scoring one punch ko's, if he is mentally ready, he is a future champion.
I don't rate McCormack high at all.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Teofilo Stevenson actually lived quite well until his death, as much as you can expect in Cuba, he had a house, a car and didn't had to worry a lot about money since he was the man in there, he had drinking problem but in comparisson to Angel Herrera, Candelario Duvergel, Angel Espinosa, Mario Kindelan or any boxer that regretted never turning pro from Cuba, he actually lived well until his death.

That’s what I meant by relative poverty, I meant by MEDC standards not Cuban standards, cause had he chosen to turn pro he could’ve been a VERY rich man

[john l]

Dual gold medalist, only 1 loss which was avenged.

Just clowned another dual medalist in their pro fight for bragging rights.

Ridiculous win/loss record.

Any amateur boxers who come close to or even surpass Loma' amateur achievements?

Laslo Papp,Stevenson,savon all won 3 golds and Savon would have won at least 4 if no boycott.

[john l]

An interesting story about Teofilo is he was offered A LOT of money to turn pro and face Muhammad Ali in 1976, a fight he would’ve dominated as Ali was on the slide at that point. Teofilo turned the offer down and remained loyal to Cuba’s communist regime, and went on to live in relative poverty for the rest of his life. He has a famous quote about the offer which I can’t remember off the top of my head but it’s something along the lines of: “why do I need all that money? I can knock on any door in Cuba and they will feed me”.
You definitely need to research him man, he’s a true legend- 3x Olympic golds and also KO’d the eventual 1984 gold medalist Tyrell Biggs.

HE said 'whats 5 mil compared to the love of 10 mil Cubans.Not sure I got the numbers right but that was it.

[Godsfly]

Again, your lying about Robinson. He lost twice under his original name Walker Smith.

The names Jose Ramirez, Oscar Valdez, Felix Verdejo don't ring a bell? They've done alright so far as pro's and then you've got Gold Medal winner Robson Conceicao and top amateurs Yasniel Toledo and Albert Selimov who had credentialed amateur careers.

just to name a few........brewster, tua, briggs. the list is very long with felix. it's not only about a inflated record but the amount of medals & most importantly the quality of fighters you've faced. this is why guys like felix is head and shoulders above loma. don't tell me about a record in which you nore russia can verify.

Jose Ramirez has done nothing & looks nothing special to me. verdejo has done nothing. valdez was getting rocked back and fourth war with servania.

these are not top quality fighters.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

HE said 'whats 5 mil compared to the love of 10 mil Cubans.Not sure I got the numbers right but that was it.

I always thought it was something about being fed, I learnt the quote from Steve Bunce who’s always getting mixed up😂😂😂 so I’m not surprised I was a bit off

[john l]

I always thought it was something about being fed, I learnt the quote from Steve Bunce who’s always getting mixed up😂😂😂 so I’m not surprised I was a bit off

Yea I don't think I got #s right but that was quote.