Boxing amateur as amazing as Lomachenko?

[McNulty]

Dual gold medalist, only 1 loss which was avenged.

Just clowned another dual medalist in their pro fight for bragging rights.

Ridiculous win/loss record.

Any amateur boxers who come close to or even surpass Loma' amateur achievements?

He's been fighting smaller guys so it's not impressive.

Robinson had way less fights but went 85-0 and beat Willie Pep in the Amateurs. I would say that's more impressive than 300 and change wins against smaller cats in the Eastern Block.

I would like a closer look at his record as well. Not sure I believe all of the Russian fighters with 350+ wins floating around considering how much bullcrap comes out of Russia.

[BrometheusBob.]

Tiger Muhammad, the 6'8, 17 year old from South Africa who won 4 Junior Olympic gold medals by the age of 14.

Greatest amateur of all time, soon to be turning pro apparently.

I'll have to look him up.

[yngwie]

He's been fighting smaller guys so it's not impressive.

Robinson had way less fights but went 85-0 and beat Willie Pep in the Amateurs. I would say that's more impressive than 300 and change wins against smaller cats in the Eastern Block.

I would like a closer look at his record as well. Not sure I believe all of the Russian fighters with 350+ wins floating around considering how much bullcrap comes out of Russia.

I know you are trolling but seriously one time i saw a guy putting Robinson as one of the top 10 amateurs ever, even when Willie Pep never did much as an amateur and neither did Ray, i believe it was a ring magazine writer.

[yngwie]

Lomachenko does have a really strong case to be the amateur goat, two olympic golds, two amateur world titles and one silver, the val barker trophy for the best boxer at the olympics back in 2008, won his first olympic final by ko in the first round, avenged his only loss twice, beat several olympic champions and was pretty much unstoppable between 2008 and 2012, however i believe that based on accolades, Teofilo Stevenson is the amateur goat, three olympic titles, three world amateur titles, val barker trophy in 1972, knocked out all but two of his opponents in three olympic games, beat several future world champions and olympic champions and h2h, Mario Kindelan is the olympic goat.

[TheBigLug]

Mario Kindelan is the olympic goat.

Remember when he went to the UK after the olympics before retirement so he could fight Khan in the rematch. He was clearly paid to let Khan win before Khan turned pro.

[chrisJS]

He's been fighting smaller guys so it's not impressive.

Robinson had way less fights but went 85-0 and beat Willie Pep in the Amateurs. I would say that's more impressive than 300 and change wins against smaller cats in the Eastern Block.

I would like a closer look at his record as well. Not sure I believe all of the Russian fighters with 350+ wins floating around considering how much bullcrap comes out of Russia.

Pure lies. Robinson lost twice as an amateur under his birth name Walker Smith.

Also, Pep was much smaller than him so stop the double standards. You said being the smaller man wouldn't affect Rigo two weeks ago also so another inconsistency in your logic.

[filup79]

Is it really impressive when older men in their mid 20's are beating up on teenagers in the amateurs?

[yngwie]

Remember when he went to the UK after the olympics before retirement so he could fight Khan in the rematch. He was clearly paid to let Khan win before Khan turned pro.

Yeah, Kindelan was retired for more than a year, he only trained to face Khan, a guy he defeated twice, in an event where he clearly was paid to hold himself back.
Khan was a great amateur tho.

[McNulty]

I know you are trolling but seriously one time i saw a guy putting Robinson as one of the top 10 amateurs ever, even when Willie Pep never did much as an amateur and neither did Ray, i believe it was a ring magazine writer.

I'm not trolling. The Am's in the early 80's were hard as fùck never mind the 40's. AAU tournaments, fighting 3x per night. The Am's when Robinson was fighting must have been insane. Starving fighters, using milk crates as ring posts, no medicine, no headgear, old asś horse hair gloves.

85-0-69 with 40 ko's in the 1st round. 396 wins, how many of those were JO fights? I don't count little kid fights. Looking at Lomo's Am's championship fights and don't see a single name that rings a bell.

Russia is a pretty corrupt place to the point they've been kicked out of the Olympics. I've questioned these Russian Am fighters records for years now, nothing to do with Lomo.

[HI-TECH Boxing]

I'm sure in the future we will get another amateur prodigy.
Maybe someone in the Ukraine will be inspired because of Loma and his father and they will get to work to have the same success.

The best amateur fighter post-Loma, in my opinion, is Daniyar Yeleussinov of Kazakhstan.
Hopefully we see him going professional.