Comments Thread For: The Argument For (And Against) Lomachenko Being #1 P4P

[Regulus]

Fighter(s)? Which ones? I think your a xenophobic racist ****** and you can't stand seeing fighters from that part of the world kicking "brothas" asses. My favorite fighters have generally been Latino. Best fan base and most humble fighters.

Your fave fighters are latino because that's what you are.

I think you jock-ride the foriegners because your raza can't represent.

You can't root for the Brothers so you bark from the sidelines like the bitter little Chihuahua that you are

You use Crawford's pic to hide your racism.

[chrisJS]

Your fave fighters are latino because that's what you are.

I think you jock-ride the foriegners because your raza can't represent.

You can't root for the Brothers so you bark from the sidelines like the bitter little Chihuahua that you are

You use Crawford's pic to hide your racism.

Wrong everywhere there. I'm white. Also I have paid to go and see Crawford fight as a fan and I'll be at his next fight too (probably ringside) so wrong there. Have you ever paid to go see live Boxing? Nah. Your one of those race rooters that *****es and complains but is either too cheap or too broke to go buy a ticket and watch a live fight. A fake Boxing fan who roots for a handful of guys because they are your favorite color and hates others because they aren't that color and your insecurity creeps in. Ragga is the same way though he won't admit it you don't need to admit it you just admitted it.

My favorites are all over the map - Marquez bros, Trinidad, Hagler, Sanchez, Gomez, Ortiz, Jofre, Toney, Arguello, Lomachenko, Crawford, Estrada, Andrade, Calzaghe, Olivares, McCallum, Too Sharp Johnson, Roman, Holyfield, Tszyu, Chocolatito etc; you've probably not heard of half of them being the racist and casual that you are.

Just because your a racist xenophobic scumbag doesn't mean everyone else is. So your anti-white and anti-Hispanic as I can see and it's fair to say your anti-asian. Your a disgrace to your own race.

[Steven Mccowan]

John Molina is a C level fighter. Go watch his fight with Broner.

As for “schooling a ring wizard.” I wouldn’t consider landing 16% of your punches schooling. He overwhelmed a much smaller, much older fighter. Sorry if I’m not ready to tell Ray Robinson to move over just yet.

Molina is molina lol. Porter a b- fighter and he fookin easily beat broner. Broner was all hype. The tmz style fans bought into him but he is a c level guy to me. Im not saying loma goat or anything. But he beats anyone in boxing right now p4p imo. I think he will easily be garcia. Just my opinion. But he has proved me right more than once.
Oh and loma didnt beat rigo with size. That wasnt a factor in the fight. All skills is what broke rigo. And the myth of rigo is now dead. Now... Garcia claims to be a free agent, but then says everyone has come to showtime to fight him. So slim chance that fight happens anyway. If it does, i stand by my opinion

[Raggamuffin]

Do you pay to go to see live fights?

What fights have you travelled to see live?

Not sure your qualified to critique who's a real fan when you have an agenda

You aren't sure of anything other than your own sorry ass opinion.
Usyk isn't a top 10 pfp fighter and Loma isn't pfp the best fighter in the world. Those are facts to true boxing fans. You can ****ride the fighters from the East, but that **** doesn't fly with real fans of the sport.

[KJR89]

If your basing it on pure skills & ability then yes loma may be the best fighter on the planet atm... if your bringing into account acheivments, longevity, resume things of that nature then maybe its too early... thats the problem with p4p its open to interpretation with many ways of judging it so its almost impossible to agree on

[vitali1999]

Who is the 10-0 fighter that you're talking about, lmao???

Don't be coy with me. You know it's Lomachenko

[vitali1999]

The Salido loss has evaded your vodka-soaked brain-cells.

I was drunk

[H.B.Viper]

Just reading all this dribble

You cats on this site are nothing more than hypocrites.
You crown Crawford, but as the editor of this story stated, Bud has not fought a top fighter.
But yet you blast Loma for him not having enough pro bouts.
He fought just as many, if not more title bouts.
The names on his resume out shine Crawford's. You guys know this, & just don't want to believe because he won more belts.
These days anyone can get a belt.
Indago, Postol, Prince Martin, even John Ruiz had a belt.
HBO, & Jim Lampley really has done type of hypnotic hold on the boxing public.
For his Fight Game show, not once did he mention the rise of the Charlo Bros. Why? They don't deal with the PBC, and its afiliates. So they are ignored.
You yell Loma needs to fight someone, Crawford needs to do the same.
Hank Lundy is no Nicholas. Walters.

[chrisJS]

You cats on this site are nothing more than hypocrites.
You crown Crawford, but as the editor of this story stated, Bud has not fought a top fighter.
But yet you blast Loma for him not having enough pro bouts.
He fought just as many, if not more title bouts.
The names on his resume out shine Crawford's. You guys know this, & just don't want to believe because he won more belts.
These days anyone can get a belt.
Indago, Postol, Prince Martin, even John Ruiz had a belt.
HBO, & Jim Lampley really has done type of hypnotic hold on the boxing public.
For his Fight Game show, not once did he mention the rise of the Charlo Bros. Why? They don't deal with the PBC, and its afiliates. So they are ignored.
You yell Loma needs to fight someone, Crawford needs to do the same.
Hank Lundy is no Nicholas. Walters.

Yeah, it's actually close between the two of them but one side wants to claim Crawford is far and away the best and Loma is barely a top 10 or even just an average fighter but some facts -

Both have 10 title fights

Loma has defeated 5 world champs and Bud has defeated 4

During that time both have defeated 3 undefeated fighters

Loma's victims have a combined record of 267-15-11 at a winning % of 91.12 % whereas Crawfords are 253-22-3 at a % of 91%

During that time (since winning title including title fight) Loma has lost 1 or 2 rounds and Crawford 4 or 5 rounds.

Russell, Walters and Rigo were considered elite level fighters and talents and had many claiming they'd win whereas for Bud Gamboa was considered elite (but not as highly regarded as Rigo both came up and were the smaller men). Postol probably wasn't as highly regarded as those 3 but is moreso than the rest of Loma's wins. Indongo was basically considered at the level of Sosa but he did have two belts. I think Loma's top 3 have a decided edge. You've also got to factor everyone brings up Walter's 2 years off when it was actually 11 months. 1 more month than Postol's 10 and 1 less than Gamboa's 12.

For me it's clear both are the best in the game and they have dominated good opponents (Loma's best 3 are better IMO Bud's 4-6 are better imo) and will continue to do so at their new weight classes (assuming Loma moves up again as he will). I think Loma will have a hard time getting the reluctant Mikey Garcia in the ring but has more chance of facing top fighters than Bud due to the PBC factor at 147 so perhaps #1 becomes a bit clearer in 2018/2019. Both are great fighters.

[Sp0rty Cr@ig]

If Loma beats Mikey he is def #1