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  • Lemonhead_Jeff
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    #11
    Originally posted by grobbo
    AJ.....’What they’re offering is nothing and what we are offering is ten times more than they can bring up themselves’.

    Sums it up pretty well. Why do all you ******s think AJ and Hearn owe everyone a living.
    It makes no difference what Parker or Joshua had earned for their previous fights. It's like your employer trying to explain that you do not deserve a raise because you are already accustomed to earning minimum wage. Joshua doesn't believe he needs decent opponents because the foolish UK fans have proven that they'll fill a stadium to watch him fight little-known journeymen. He has no incentive to be fair during negotiations with his prospective opponents. The worst part is that Joshua's foolish fans defend his greed. It's as if they don't want these important fights to happen.

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    • Shaz619
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      #12
      65-35 is decent for AJ, since he's being increasingly greedy / hypocritical, they should meet somewhere in the middle; 67-33 or 60/30 at the very least should in theory get the fight made. Parker is not a big name but he is a world champion, it takes two to tango and a unification bout will sell huge, matchroom have promoted AJ fights on PPV involving the likes of Martin and more recently Takam; Parker is an improvement over those opponents and his world championship status will help draw a big PPV buy rate with AJ's help off course, I get the feeling they see that he's a threat on paper stylistically so that could also be a reason for why AJ is being stubborn.

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      • keith_head
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        #13
        Some of you seem to want Joshua to just not fight anyone because no one "deserves" anything.

        It doesn't matter how much Parker or Wilder or anyone else has been earning, it's about how big the individual fight is.

        Sure, he could go fight bums and probably make nearly the same amount of money. Are you saying he should pay Parker what he pays those bums? That's ridiculous.

        65 35 is far, make the damn fight happen.

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          #14
          Originally posted by keith_head
          Some of you seem to want Joshua to just not fight anyone because no one "deserves" anything.

          It doesn't matter how much Parker or Wilder or anyone else has been earning, it's about how big the individual fight is.

          Sure, he could go fight bums and probably make nearly the same amount of money. Are you saying he should pay Parker what he pays those bums? That's ridiculous.

          65 35 is far, make the damn fight happen.
          Nobody is looking to pay Parker what AJ pays the other fighters. They're willing to give Parker 30% of the pot which will net Parker 10 Mill or more.

          Wake up people.

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          • kafkod
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            #15
            Originally posted by Pan-Africanist
            I agree that press conference was weak sauce.
            That video they showed, and Higgins droning on and on and on about AJ having a glass jaw, made me cringe. It probably wasn't the best idea to be so disrespectful to an A side cash cow before striking a deal with him. They should have saved that till after the contacts were signed.
            Last edited by kafkod; 12-08-2017, 03:22 PM.

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            • kafkod
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              #16
              Originally posted by keith_head
              Some of you seem to want Joshua to just not fight anyone because no one "deserves" anything.

              It doesn't matter how much Parker or Wilder or anyone else has been earning, it's about how big the individual fight is.

              Sure, he could go fight bums and probably make nearly the same amount of money. Are you saying he should pay Parker what he pays those bums? That's ridiculous.

              65 35 is far, make the damn fight happen.
              Not so. Some of us are just being realistic in accepting that AJ can afford to drive a hard bargain because, at the moment, he's holding all the cards in his division. He can make more money by giving, eg, Dillian Whyte, a 15/20% cut than he could make by giving Parker 35%

              We saw the same thing happening when Floyd was at his peak. He was earning $30million+ for fighting whoever, and giving guys like Maidana, who was a world title holder, less than $5miillion.

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              • filup79
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                #17
                Originally posted by kafkod
                Not so. Some of us are just being realistic in accepting that AJ can afford to drive a hard bargain because, at the moment, he's holding all the cards in his division. He can make more money by giving, eg, Dillian Whyte, a 15/20% cut than he could make by giving Parker 35%

                We saw the same thing happening when Floyd was at his peak. He was earning $30million+ for fighting whoever, and giving guys like Maidana, who was a world title holder, less than $5miillion.
                Floyd was making big purses because he was in charge of everything. He paid GB a flat free for the promotion since at the time he didn't have a promotional license, but he pretty much paid for everything that had to do with the fight.

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                • cameltoe
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                  #18
                  It’s Parkers team who needs to wake up.

                  65-35% split sounds fair, and I see the tards on here jumping on it as a way to bash AJ for ‘ducking’.

                  But it’s not fair, not when AJ brings everything to the table, and holds all the cards.

                  Sure, Parker can go fight Lucas Browne and get, I dunno, 80% split? But 80% of that fight equates to about 5% of this fight.

                  So if they walk away for a ‘better deal’, it’s BS. There is no better deal than fighting AJ. They will make more money fighting him than any other opponent. They need to realise he calls the shots and he brings that revenue to the table. They are asking for 35% of a pie to which they contribute about 10%, if that.

                  AJ I think would like to fight him, even though nobody knows who he is, because it’s a unification. But there are potentially bigger fights to be made, including Wilder and even Fury if he comes back.

                  Just remember, if Parker walks away from this deal, it’s his team that’s walked away from a payday, so who’s ducking?

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                  • kafkod
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by filup79
                    Floyd was making big purses because he was in charge of everything. He paid GB a flat free for the promotion since at the time he didn't have a promotional license, but he pretty much paid for everything that had to do with the fight.
                    The point is that everybody accepted that Floyd could make a fortune whoever he fought, and his opponents were happy getting 10%/15% of the total, because it was still a lot more than they could make anywhere else.

                    I'm not saying Parker should only get 15% from AJ, because his belt is more valuable than that. Personally, I would say that 30% to 35% is about right for Parker, so one of them is going to have to concede something to get the fight made.

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                    • Fabes88
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Lemonhead_Jeff
                      It makes no difference what Parker or Joshua had earned for their previous fights. It's like your employer trying to explain that you do not deserve a raise because you are already accustomed to earning minimum wage. Joshua doesn't believe he needs decent opponents because the foolish UK fans have proven that they'll fill a stadium to watch him fight little-known journeymen. He has no incentive to be fair during negotiations with his prospective opponents. The worst part is that Joshua's foolish fans defend his greed. It's as if they don't want these important fights to happen.
                      He said they're offering 10x what they get that's more than enough how is aj being greedy? It's him bringing in the money if he gives anymore he may be taking a pay cut. Bear in mind this fight won't be in a stadium so that's a smaller gate and Parker isn't exactly klitchko in terms of name value.

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