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  • sunny31
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    #211
    Originally posted by RedZmaja
    You're trying to argue against common sense here. If more countries are participating in a sport that means that more athletes are into it which means that the talent pool is bigger which means that there will be more talented athletes reaching the top. It shouldn't be difficult to understand even for a ****** like you.

    Boxing has much more talent now because Eastern Europeans can participate in it which means millions of people that can become potential fighters.

    If pro boxing was still banned in Eastern Europe there would be no Kovalev, Klitschko, Lomachenko, Golovkin, Usyk etc. right now yet by your logic this somehow shouldn't affect the talent in boxing? ******s like you would probably actually think more highly of this era then because there would be more hyped American champions. Guys like Jacobs would be undefeated and hyped more and people would call him the next Hagler or something. But now that he lost to Eastern Euros he's a bum and those Eastern Euros aren't any good either (by your logic) because you simply don't like them and they have no hype in America.
    Yes in terms of general participation you are correct but at the sharp end of the sport, at the elite level....no that doesn't translate into tougher eras and better boxers because there are so few coaches, gyms, or learning centres which can equip a fighter to be an elite professional.

    Anyway Soviet fighters have always been around and there have been lots of good pros and world champions. You can make a better argument for Cubans then Soviet fighters.

    Anyway this in no way shape or form equates to a harder Klitschko era. He had rubbish fighters during his reign, his best win Haye is quoted as saying: "In previous eras I would not have even thought about moving to heavyweight".

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    • sunny31
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      #212
      Look at that poll lol. How about that for some statistics for you?

      These Klitschko fans are on another level of ******ation.

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        #213
        Originally posted by soul_survivor
        I didnt but the picture shows, quite aptly, that Mayweather is nowhere near Alis level, so his ranting about how he is better is bollocks.

        Your turn to explain now.
        I didn't make mines either but it shows 3 great influential African Americans

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          #214
          Originally posted by sunny31
          Look at that poll lol. How about that for some statistics for you?

          These Klitschko fans are on another level of ******ation.
          19-2: Thems "The Facts" :hahahaha9: Expect another poll asking about the face vagina Vitali grew against Lennox :chuckle9:

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            #215
            Originally posted by sunny31
            Look at that poll lol. How about that for some statistics for you?

            These Klitschko fans are on another level of ******ation.
            NOPE--It just shows the sheer arrogance and "holding on the past" ideology that boxing fans have

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            • soul_survivor
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              #216
              Originally posted by larryx...
              I didn't make mines either but it shows 3 great influential African Americans
              Yes but what does Barack ***** have in common with Malcolm X? Or with MLK even?


              I know you lack the intellectual capacity and the historical understanding to even answer that.

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                #217
                Originally posted by soul_survivor
                Yes but what does Barack ***** have in common with Malcolm X? Or with MLK even?


                I know you lack the intellectual capacity and the historical understanding to even answer that.
                They are all 3 historical black figures..not sure why that is hard to understand or why you even care

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                  #218
                  Originally posted by soul_survivor
                  Yes but what does Barack ***** have in common with Malcolm X? Or with MLK even?


                  I know you lack the intellectual capacity and the historical understanding to even answer that.
                  WHaaaaaat? You really don't think MLK Malcom x and barrack have anything in common?

                  All three dedicated or partially dedicated their lives toward some form of racial equality. Yes, they may have don it in different ways . ***** was the first american president that was black, something MLK campaigned his entire life to see.

                  If you cannot see any relation to the three men then you are DUMB.

                  I could see the difference between malcom x and the other three, though.

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                    #219
                    Originally posted by Holler
                    Tyson was 36 and Holyfield 37 by my reckoning. Past their prime, certainly in Tyson's case, but not ancient in heavyweight circles.
                    Good point so why did Lennox retire at 37 to avoid a VK rematch? 37 is not old right? I mean Wlad almost beat the no.1 heavyweight at 41 right? See where I'm going with this? Tyson was not at his best and neither was Evander and Holyfield managed a draw with Lewis.

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                      #220
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                      Keep fishing. I know that you know who the better fighter is and it isn't Wlad.
                      Venture back to my first post in this thread and then come talk to me.

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