rank higher wlad or lennox lewis?
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I'm not a Haye fan but him and Wlad were THE two fastest, athletic heavyweights that anyone could ever expect to see on the night they fought. Wladimir is really underrated by so many people. He was a GREAT fighter.Comment
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I'll use anti wlad rhetoric. Pele played at a time when competition was weak, there were like five good teams in the world.
Pele played against scrubs, ronaldo and messi are playing against the best in the world, from far reaching corners of the worldComment
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Wow you're seriously messed up with some of the nonsense you're spewing, but I have to put you straight on something...
Lennox beat...
Botha (South African)
Golota (Poland)
Bruno and Mason (British)
Holyfield, Briggs, Mercer etc etc (USA)
Ruddock (Canadian)
Tua (New Zealand)
Mavrovic (Croatia)
Vitali (Ukraine)
And yet you think Lennox didn't fight an international set of fighters?
Just because there are more international fighters in Heavyweight boxing, it doesn't make them more talented. That doesn't even make any sense.Comment
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He never beat anybody from Asia. Lewis boxed in an era where for example the Uzbekistani fighters haven't made their presence yet. Wlad had to box dangerous Asian fighters like Chagaev and that Dagestani guy Ibragimov. Those Asiatic guys haven't been around in the Lewis days in such numbers yet.
It means that the talent pool for HW boxing is bigger now than it was when it was just Americans.Just because there are more international fighters in Heavyweight boxing, it doesn't make them more talented. That doesn't even make any sense.
Every new era of boxing is better than the last one these days because we're getting talented fighters from all over the world now. Americans are butthurt because they can't keep up with the new talent anymore, they were lucky that the communist regimes didn't allow pro boxing otherwise they would be rooted out of boxing long time ago like it's happening now. Wilder is the only American champ left above 168 pounds LOL.Last edited by RedZmaja; 12-04-2017, 07:38 PM.Comment
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When did fighters from Asia become the fighters to beat? Haha madness.He never beat anybody from Asia. Lewis boxed in an era where for example the Uzbekistani fighters haven't made their presence yet. Wlad had to box dangerous Asian fighters like Chagaev and that Dagestani guy Ibragimov. Those Asiatic guys haven't been around in the Lewis days in such numbers yet.
It means that the talent pool for HW boxing is bigger now than it was when it was just Americans.
Every new era of boxing is better than the last one these days because we're getting talented fighters from all over the world now. Americans are butthurt because they can't keep up with the new talent anymore, they were lucky that the communist regimes didn't allow pro boxing otherwise they would be rooted out of boxing long time ago like it's happening now. Wilder is the only American champ left above 168 pounds LOL.
We're not talking about American fighters though, we're talking about a Brit in Lennox. You know, the reason for the thread?
You're making out that Wlad is better because he fought a more international field. I just wanted to point out that Lewis also beat an international field as well. And a much better one also.
No, the fighters do not getting better every era. Some fighters from the past can beat present day fighters, and some present day fighters can beat those from the past. It's not cut and dry in any way shape or form.Comment
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The point is that the more global the sport is the better the sport is because more people are competing in it and the talent is better. That's why the talent of boxing in Wlad's era was much better than the talent of boxing in the previous eras when it was mostly restricted to America, for a variety of reasons.When did fighters from Asia become the fighters to beat? Haha madness.
We're not talking about American fighters though, we're talking about a Brit in Lennox. You know, the reason for the thread?
You're making out that Wlad is better because he fought a more international field. I just wanted to point out that Lewis also beat an international field as well. And a much better one also.
No, the fighters do not getting better every era. Some fighters from the past can beat present day fighters, and some present day fighters can beat those from the past. It's not cut and dry in any way shape or form.
Before the 90s pro boxing was a fringe American sport as far as talent was concerned. Now it's getting better with every generation, Wlad dominated the best era of HW boxing yet, the new HW era will be even better but we don't have a clear dominant champ yet.Comment
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