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  • jmrf4435
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    #141
    Originally posted by StarshipTrooper
    Everyone verbally sucking off Wlad in this thread is an alt of a white supremacist who was sucking off the Klits 10 years ago. You're dismissed Gilligan :hand9:
    Yup. Being a fan of Wlad is surely a concrete parallel to being a RACIST. Maybe even a KKK leader

    Stop watching CNN and sucking the DNC's transgender****CKC. You don't agree it's suddenly RACIST

    That's a horrible way to live your life man

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    • Damn Wicked
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      #142
      Originally posted by RedZmaja
      The PRIME version of Wlad that beat Haye beats any boxer in history.
      I'm not a Haye fan but him and Wlad were THE two fastest, athletic heavyweights that anyone could ever expect to see on the night they fought. Wladimir is really underrated by so many people. He was a GREAT fighter.

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        #143
        Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
        Love how idiots are bringing up Messi and Ronaldo now������
        Pele scored more goals in the 58 World Cup than either of these have scored in World Cup’s during their entire career’s.
        Levels.
        I'll use anti wlad rhetoric. Pele played at a time when competition was weak, there were like five good teams in the world.

        Pele played against scrubs, ronaldo and messi are playing against the best in the world, from far reaching corners of the world

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        • Sid-Knee
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          #144
          Originally posted by RedZmaja
          Before the Wlad's era the HW division was LIMITED and consisting of mostly overhyped local American boxers. It's only in the 00s that the HW division became really global. Wlad was the first real heavyweight champion of the WORLD and not just of the USA.
          Wow you're seriously messed up with some of the nonsense you're spewing, but I have to put you straight on something...

          Lennox beat...

          Botha (South African)
          Golota (Poland)
          Bruno and Mason (British)
          Holyfield, Briggs, Mercer etc etc (USA)
          Ruddock (Canadian)
          Tua (New Zealand)
          Mavrovic (Croatia)
          Vitali (Ukraine)

          And yet you think Lennox didn't fight an international set of fighters?

          Just because there are more international fighters in Heavyweight boxing, it doesn't make them more talented. That doesn't even make any sense.

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          • Damn Wicked
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            #145
            Originally posted by larryxxx.
            you must be joking...

            Purrity
            Sanders
            Brewster

            dropped over 10 times


            come on man
            Unlike Lennox. When Lewis got dropped he couldn't get up. Maybe Wladimir had a better chin.

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            • RedZmaja
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              #146
              Originally posted by Sid-Knee
              Lennox beat...

              Botha (South African)
              Golota (Poland)
              Bruno and Mason (British)
              Holyfield, Briggs, Mercer etc etc (USA)
              Ruddock (Canadian)
              Tua (New Zealand)
              Mavrovic (Croatia)
              Vitali (Ukraine)

              And yet you think Lennox didn't fight an international set of fighters?
              He never beat anybody from Asia. Lewis boxed in an era where for example the Uzbekistani fighters haven't made their presence yet. Wlad had to box dangerous Asian fighters like Chagaev and that Dagestani guy Ibragimov. Those Asiatic guys haven't been around in the Lewis days in such numbers yet.

              Just because there are more international fighters in Heavyweight boxing, it doesn't make them more talented. That doesn't even make any sense.
              It means that the talent pool for HW boxing is bigger now than it was when it was just Americans.

              Every new era of boxing is better than the last one these days because we're getting talented fighters from all over the world now. Americans are butthurt because they can't keep up with the new talent anymore, they were lucky that the communist regimes didn't allow pro boxing otherwise they would be rooted out of boxing long time ago like it's happening now. Wilder is the only American champ left above 168 pounds LOL.
              Last edited by RedZmaja; 12-04-2017, 07:38 PM.

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              • RedZmaja
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                #147
                Originally posted by Damn Wicked
                Unlike Lennox. When Lewis got dropped he couldn't get up. Maybe Wladimir had a better chin.
                Wladimir had more heart.

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                  #148
                  Lewis is greater in every way and it is not debatable.

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                    #149
                    Originally posted by RedZmaja
                    He never beat anybody from Asia. Lewis boxed in an era where for example the Uzbekistani fighters haven't made their presence yet. Wlad had to box dangerous Asian fighters like Chagaev and that Dagestani guy Ibragimov. Those Asiatic guys haven't been around in the Lewis days in such numbers yet.



                    It means that the talent pool for HW boxing is bigger now than it was when it was just Americans.

                    Every new era of boxing is better than the last one these days because we're getting talented fighters from all over the world now. Americans are butthurt because they can't keep up with the new talent anymore, they were lucky that the communist regimes didn't allow pro boxing otherwise they would be rooted out of boxing long time ago like it's happening now. Wilder is the only American champ left above 168 pounds LOL.
                    When did fighters from Asia become the fighters to beat? Haha madness.

                    We're not talking about American fighters though, we're talking about a Brit in Lennox. You know, the reason for the thread?

                    You're making out that Wlad is better because he fought a more international field. I just wanted to point out that Lewis also beat an international field as well. And a much better one also.

                    No, the fighters do not getting better every era. Some fighters from the past can beat present day fighters, and some present day fighters can beat those from the past. It's not cut and dry in any way shape or form.

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                    • RedZmaja
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                      When did fighters from Asia become the fighters to beat? Haha madness.

                      We're not talking about American fighters though, we're talking about a Brit in Lennox. You know, the reason for the thread?

                      You're making out that Wlad is better because he fought a more international field. I just wanted to point out that Lewis also beat an international field as well. And a much better one also.

                      No, the fighters do not getting better every era. Some fighters from the past can beat present day fighters, and some present day fighters can beat those from the past. It's not cut and dry in any way shape or form.
                      The point is that the more global the sport is the better the sport is because more people are competing in it and the talent is better. That's why the talent of boxing in Wlad's era was much better than the talent of boxing in the previous eras when it was mostly restricted to America, for a variety of reasons.

                      Before the 90s pro boxing was a fringe American sport as far as talent was concerned. Now it's getting better with every generation, Wlad dominated the best era of HW boxing yet, the new HW era will be even better but we don't have a clear dominant champ yet.

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