rank higher wlad or lennox lewis?

[Sid-Knee]

The point is that the more global the sport is the better the sport is because more people are competing in it and the talent is better. That's why the talent of boxing in Wlad's era was much better than the talent of boxing in the previous eras when it was mostly restricted to America, for a variety of reasons.

Before the 90s pro boxing was a fringe American sport as far as talent was concerned. Now it's getting better with every generation, Wlad dominated the best era of HW boxing yet, the new HW era will be even better but we don't have a clear dominant champ yet.

How do you equate a more international field to being more talented??

You're just talking rubbish.

So what, Lewis didn't beat someone from Asia. Who cares. Lennox beat much better fighters than Wlad did. End of story.

[jmrf4435]

How do you equate a more international field to being more talented??

You're just talking rubbish.

So what, Lewis didn't beat someone from Asia. Who cares. Lennox beat much better fighters than Wlad did. End of story.

So when soccer started to recruit people from outside of Europe it didn't make it more competitive?

The NBA having guys like nurkik and Prozingis doesn't make it more competitive?

Globalizing anything makes it more competitive by nature. The fall of the soviet Union made the bigger weight classes tougher for sure~!!!!!!

[Sid-Knee]

So when soccer started to recruit people from outside of Europe it didn't make it more competitive?

The NBA having guys like nurkik and Prozingis doesn't make it more competitive?

Globalizing anything makes it more competitive by nature. The fall of the soviet Union made the bigger weight classes tougher for sure~!!!!!!

Football is the most watched sport in the world, it's played by kids all over the world, so an international field would likely be strong. Whereas boxing isn't that big in lots of country's, so the talent pool isn't anywhere near as strong.

As I say, an international field doesn't automatically make them better talents. It doesn't work like that.

What fighters over the last 15 years would beat Holyfield say?

Tyson??

[Mr Objecitivity]

Everyone verbally sucking off Wlad in this thread is an alt of a white supremacist who was sucking off the Klits 10 years ago. You're dismissed Gilligan :hand9:

I'm still waiting for the part where you actually 'PROVE' your unsubstantiated claim. Until then, it is you who is being dismissed.

Also, perhaps it is you who is sucking off if you think Wladimir Klitschko only has white European fans? Or maybe you've never traveled the world enough? Which should explain your level of ignorance!

[Mr Objecitivity]

I’d quote Ganstaz but he blocked me cause he’s running scared. The undisputed title is NOT a belt it’s a TITLE you earn when you are the UNDISPUTED best in the division by beating all the contenders. Wlad wasn’t ever the universally recognised #1 in the division because many considered that to be Vitali, and even after Vitali retired he never beat the other fighter’s that had claims to that title like Wilder etc to become UNDISPUTED champion.
Ali was number 1 cause he beat EVERYONE! Frazier, Foreman, Liston, Patterson, Foster, Moore, Folley, Norton etc.
Keep calling Wlad the GOAT cause he beat the most southpaws and mandatories you certified retatd��������
Keep having conversations with your alternate account you sad, lonely weirdo������

RJJ-94-02=GOAT



This was your comment where it was you who stated that I shouldn't quote you:







On the following thread:

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=764894&page=6

Yet you're posting sentences about 'quoting' me and accusing me of 'blocking' you? Well then make your decision up perhaps? You again just exposed yourself to be self - contradictory.

For one to become the undisputed champion, they must have all the belts. Ergo, the fact that you contradicted yourself still stands. Since according to you, Ali's belts matter but Wladimir Klitschko holding the same number of belts don't.

Wladimir Klitschko boxed against more opponents than Muhammad Ali did. That's a fact! Wladimir Klitschko also held more belts for longer. That's also a fact! These are numbers (the more the better) whilst your claims about 'undisputed' herp derp champion nonsense is merely just a meaningless word. In what mathematical context does Ali's two belts have more precedence than Wladimir Klitschko's 2+ belts?

Perhaps take some logic courses and learn basic math?

[Mr Objecitivity]

The more countries that have athletes competing in any sport, the more likely that particular sport is going to have better athletes than if that sport only had athletes from one or two countries competing, making it less competitive. This is purely common sense!

It's no coincidence that there hasn't been a single dominant heavyweight champion from USA since boxers from the ex Soviet Union countries were allowed to start competing in professional boxing.

It's also not a coincidence that the only place where the athletes from Soviet Union were allowed to compete in boxing, which was the Olympics and amateur boxing before the collapse of the Soviet Union, is where Americans never lopsidedly dominated since 1960. Especially in the heavier weight divisions.

All it does is prove how when the sport is more global, the more competitive that sport is more likely to be, than not.

[Mr Objecitivity]

So when soccer started to recruit people from outside of Europe it didn't make it more competitive?

The NBA having guys like nurkik and Prozingis doesn't make it more competitive?

Globalizing anything makes it more competitive by nature. The fall of the soviet Union made the bigger weight classes tougher for sure~!!!!!!

It is common sense what you wrote but I'm guessing you're arguing with individuals who lack this simple asset.

[Boxing Goat]

Nobody beat Rahamn as good as Wlad did?

I guess you must have missed the Lewis rematch then.

P.S Wlad's resume comes nowhere near to Lewis'.

Yea I saw it and Rahman was in the second fight for a bit. With Wlad he did absolutely fkn nothing of note whatsoever before getting knocked out.

P.S. Wlad has more title fights than any heavyweight ever. 2nd most defenses ever and 2nd longest reign ever. Lennox was never champ more than a few years at a time. Beating 40 y/o Tyson, 40 y/o Holyfield and Vitali by lucky break doesn't Trump Wlads resume.

[RedZmaja]

How do you equate a more international field to being more talented??

OMG you're really dumb. I explained to you several times. If the sport is practiced in more countries, the more people are going to participate and the better the sport is going to become. It's simple logic.

[Elroy The Great]

lenny for me.

tougher resume. i can see lenny having an easy time with wlads opponents.

and imho, he would win h2h as well.