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  • RedZmaja
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    #101
    Originally posted by sunny31
    Anyone with half a brain and knowledge of these sports could dissect the **** out of this. I do have intimate knowledge of football, F1, and boxing, but I'm not going to touch this, because you are not worth the time and effort.
    Yet you took the time to read it and reply to it, admitting your defeat.

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    • VG_Addict
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      #102
      What if Lewis fought and beat '96 Tyson, Bowe, Byrd, and Wlad? Would you consider him the GOAT?

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      • RedZmaja
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        #103
        Klitschko is the heavyweight GOAT.

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        • RedZmaja
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          #104
          Originally posted by VG_Addict
          What if Lewis fought and beat '96 Tyson, Bowe, Byrd, and Wlad? Would you consider him the GOAT?
          No because he lost to nobodies and didn't have the longevity that Wlad (the GOAT) had.

          At the end of the day it all comes to how long you're able to stay on the top. Nobody beats Wlad in this regard. Not even Mayweather was as dominant for such a long period of time, he had close fights and ducked people. Wlad beat everybody and beat them convincingly in the most prestigious division of boxing.

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          • VG_Addict
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            #105
            Originally posted by RedZmaja
            No because he lost to nobodies and didn't have the longevity that Wlad (the GOAT) had.

            At the end of the day it all comes to how long you're able to stay on the top. Nobody beats Wlad in this regard. Not even Mayweather was as dominant for such a long period of time, he had close fights and ducked people. Wlad beat everybody and beat them convincingly in the most prestigious division of boxing.
            Wlad lost to nobodies too. He lost to Purrity, Sanders and Brewster.

            Fury showed just how limited Wlad really is.

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            • RedZmaja
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              #106
              Originally posted by VG_Addict
              Wlad lost to nobodies too. He lost to Purrity, Sanders and Brewster.

              Fury showed just how limited Wlad really is.
              Wlad went on to dominate the HW division for 11 years in the greatest run ever during which he established himself as the HW GOAT and barely lost a round during that time.

              If Wlad was "limited" then how come nobody was able to do ANYTHING against him for 11 years? You don't dominate a sport for 11 years by being limited.

              Lewis' greatest run between the embarrassing losses lasted for 6 years during which he had a draw against Holyfield, got a gift against Mercer and struggled against Mavrović.

              Fury beat an old shot Wlad and he did it by barely landing anything but just by feinting and running against an old Wlad who had no legs under him.

              The 39 year old shot Wlad that lost to Fury still beats any 39 year old boxer from whatever era. Show me a boxer of that age who could hang with Wlad of the same age in the ring.

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              • VG_Addict
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                #107
                Originally posted by RedZmaja
                Wlad went on to dominate the HW division for 11 years in the greatest run ever during which he established himself as the HW GOAT and barely lost a round during that time.

                If Wlad was "limited" then how come nobody was able to do ANYTHING against him for 11 years? You don't dominate a sport for 11 years by being limited.

                Lewis' greatest run between the embarrassing losses lasted for 6 years during which he had a draw against Holyfield, got a gift against Mercer and struggled against Mavrović.

                Fury beat an old shot Wlad and he did it by barely landing anything but just by feinting and running against an old Wlad who had no legs under him.
                Wlad had no inside game.

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                • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by RedZmaja
                  Klitschko is the heavyweight GOAT.
                  Nah he’s the greatest fighter of all time.
                  Beat so many ATG fighters.
                  Beat so many HOF’ers.
                  Was the undisputed HW champion.
                  Was iron chinned.
                  Had incredible punch variation.
                  Didn’t have a brother that was better than him.
                  Wasn’t KO’d 4 times.
                  Wasn’t stopped by a journeyman.

                  I mean look at all the great names on his record: Pulev, Haye, Povetkin, Byrd, Brock, Chagaev, Jennings, Leapai!!! All future HOF’ers for sure.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by sunny31
                    Yep - by a country green mile the worst fans on NSB.
                    Yeah, they're pretty much all the Boxing Scene White Supremacy crowd. If Wlad was from Ghana his nuthuggers wouldn't touch him with a ten-foot pole: They slobber all over his gonads SOLEY because he's a white Euro.

                    No matter how hard they try, the power of Wlad's whiteness can't make him an ATG.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by RedZmaja

                      If Wlad was "limited" then how come nobody was able to do ANYTHING against him for 11 years? You don't dominate a sport for 11 years by being limited.
                      Wlad could only beat what was in front of him so it's not a reflection on his efforts but the truth was that the HW division had lost its pulling power and was no longer attracting the best athletes. That's the issue.

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