Some Marquez-Pacquaio myths that need clearing up

[chrisJS]

but you cant say marquez wasnt juicing because pac hurt him and it was one of his worst performance!! then goes on and say pac was prolly juicing in all 4 fights! even though you said marquez was able to hurt pac in the first two fights. do you not get what you're saying???????

you're saying marquez couldnt have been on the juice since it was his worst performance and he was hurt by manny, THEN you said pac was juicing in all 4 fights, even though you said marquez put pac on ***** street multiple times.

so going by your logic, how can pac be on the juice, if marquez was able to hurt him???

Any juiced fighter can be hurt. Vargas for example was knocked out juiced.

Juice doesn't equal immediate win or immediate immunity from pain.

[chrisJS]

how can you said the 3rd was close but you agree with the first being a draw? out of those 3 fights, the 3rd was the most clear win for marquez. if i have to give one to him, it would be #3.

A close fight can also be a clear win. Not everything has to be a robbery.

[IronDanHamza]

how can you said the 3rd was close but you agree with the first being a draw? out of those 3 fights, the 3rd was the most clear win for marquez. if i have to give one to him, it would be #3.

Because 1 was close too.

All 3 were close.

Even the 4th was close before the KO.

[WesternChamp]

Any juiced fighter can be hurt. Vargas for example was knocked out juiced.

Juice doesn't equal immediate win or immediate immunity from pain.

then why did you say marquez couldnt have been on the juice since he was hurt by manny then go on and say pac was juicing in all 4 fights even though you also said pac was hurt by marquez. dude are you really this slow or just playing dumb today??

[WesternChamp]

Because 1 was close too.

All 3 were close.

Even the 4th was close before the KO.

yes, all 4 fights were close, but #1, pac had those knockdowns, so i gave that fight to pac since it was close, the knockdowns is what won manny that fight imo.

#3, it was close too, but there was no knockdowns so i would give that one to marquez since he was the one landing the cleaner shots.

[chrisJS]

then why did you say marquez couldnt have been on the juice since he was hurt by manny then go on and say pac was juicing in all 4 fights even though you also said pac was hurt by marquez. dude are you really this slow or just playing dumb today??

Are you slow? I didn't say he couldn't have been on the juice. I'm simply playing Devils advocate. I also said probably Pacquaio juiced. How are you reading that as "100% was"?

It's easy to back Marquez because he was a HOF great complete fighter prior to any accusation or Memo. Pacquaio was not that much when he came to Roach (who had fighters fail tests even) and then Ariza.

[IronDanHamza]

yes, all 4 fights were close, but #1, pac had those knockdowns, so i gave that fight to pac since it was close, the knockdowns is what won manny that fight imo.

#3, it was close too, but there was no knockdowns so i would give that one to marquez since he was the one landing the cleaner shots.

After watching all 3 back recently I wouldn't argue with anyone giving Pacquaio all 3.

[WesternChamp]

A close fight can also be a clear win. Not everything has to be a robbery.

im not saying everything has to be a robbey. im saying, the 3rd was more clear of a win for marquez yet the other poster said #3 was close, then he agreed with the result of #1 being a draw. if anything #3 is the least close fight out of all 4. #1 should have went to pac, #2 went to pac, #3 should have went to marquez, #4 went to marquez.

[WesternChamp]

Are you slow? I didn't say he couldn't have been on the juice. I'm simply playing Devils advocate. I also said probably Pacquaio juiced. How are you reading that as "100% was"?

It's easy to back Marquez because he was a HOF great complete fighter prior to any accusation or Memo. Pacquaio was not that much when he came to Roach (who had fighters fail tests even) and then Ariza.

no, you're saying marquez couldnt have been on the juice then go on and said you felt pac was on it for all 4 fights.

[chrisJS]

im not saying everything has to be a robbey. im saying, the 3rd was more clear of a win for marquez yet the other poster said #3 was close, then he agreed with the result of #1 being a draw. if anything #3 is the least close fight out of all 4. #1 should have went to pac, #2 went to pac, #3 should have went to marquez, #4 went to marquez.

Well, that's how that individual scored those bouts. He doesn't have to see things identically to you.