Some Marquez-Pacquaio myths that need clearing up

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    Some Marquez-Pacquaio myths that need clearing up

    That it "took Marquez 4 shots" well that's like saying it Pacquaio two shots to beat Bradley or Lewis to beat Holyfield or it took Norris 3 shots to beat Santana.

    Robberies happen. Most folks believe he won 2 or 3 of the first 3 bouts. The 3rd was an egregious robbery of epic proportions. Not one of Pacquaio's "wins" was universally accepted in fact they had more people thinking Marquez won so there goes that.

    The KD point in the first fight. Well, if Cortez had done the correct thing and deducted a point from Pacquaio for clearly hitting an opponent whilst down he'd have lost one point on THREE cards.

    Also the claim that "roids won the fight" when if you look at the facts Marquez worst performance was in the 4th fight and also was the most hurt he'd been in the series. Also, Marquez was able to hurt Pacquaio multiple times in the first two fights. He had him on ***** Street with a hard counter in round 2 of fight II. It just so happens Pacquaio jumped into the shot more. Also, Pacquaio was most likely roided for ALL FOUR fights. You can't be completely adamant that Marquez was 100% juiced but then oblivious to the fact Pacquaio could have been on something given all the signs during his career.

    That Pacquaio "gave Marquez four shots". Nah Pacquaio was not asking or letting Marquez beat him. Also Marquez was the defending champ in fight I & II. II was very controversial and most believed Marquez won yet it took nearly four years to give him a shot. Believing Marquez was too old and too small coming from lightweight. That was no act of charity that was trying to take advantage of Marquez. Fight IV happened because of the controversy and they wanted a fair win so that wasn't a charity act either.
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    #2
    Originally posted by chrisJS
    That it "took Marquez 4 shots" well that's like saying it Pacquaio two shots to beat Bradley or Lewis to beat Holyfield or it took Norris 3 shots to beat Santana.

    Robberies happen. Most folks believe he won 2 or 3 of the first 3 bouts. The 3rd was an egregious robbery of epic proportions. Not one of Pacquaio's "wins" was universally accepted in fact they had more people thinking Marquez won so there goes that.

    The KD point in the first fight. Well, if Cortez had done the correct thing and deducted a point from Pacquaio for clearly hitting an opponent whilst down he'd have lost one point on THREE cards.

    Also the claim that "roids won the fight" when if you look at the facts Marquez worst performance was in the 4th fight and also was the most hurt he'd been in the series. Also, Marquez was able to hurt Pacquaio multiple times in the first two fights. He had him on ***** Street with a hard counter in round 2 of fight II. It just so happens Pacquaio jumped into the shot more. Also, Pacquaio was most likely roided for ALL FOUR fights. You can't be completely adamant that Marquez was 100% juiced but then oblivious to the fact Pacquaio could have been on something given all the signs during his career.

    That Pacquaio "gave Marquez four shots". Nah Pacquaio was not asking or letting Marquez beat him. Also Marquez was the defending champ in fight I & II. II was very controversial and most believed Marquez won yet it took nearly four years to give him a shot. Believing Marquez was too old and too small coming from lightweight. That was no act of charity that was trying to take advantage of Marquez. Fight IV happened because of the controversy and they wanted a fair win so that wasn't a charity act either.

    ok, so it took pac 2 shots to beat bradley but it still took marquez 4 shots to beat pac, you happy? LOL!!!!!!!!

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      #3
      TS justifying that marquez couldnt have been on peds for the 4th fight since it was his worst performance then goes on and said pac was prolly juiced up to the max for all those fights even tho pac got knocked out in the 4th, and in TS opinion, pac lost the 3rd fight. so if pac was on peds, what happen? hypocrite at its finest! LOL

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        #4
        Originally posted by WesternChamp
        TS justifying that marquez couldnt have been on peds for the 4th fight since it was his worst performance then goes on and said pac was prolly juiced up to the max for all those fights even tho pac got knocked out in the 4th, and in TS opinion, pac lost the 3rd fight. so if pac was on peds, what happen? hypocrite at its finest! LOL
        That he still lost. PEDs doesn't guarantee a win you don't just take roids and win otherwise Vargas would have beat Oscar and in sure tons more examples.

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          #5
          Originally posted by chrisJS
          That he still lost. PEDs doesn't guarantee a win you don't just take roids and win otherwise Vargas would have beat Oscar and in sure tons more examples.
          but you said marquez couldnt have been on the juice since the 4th fight was his worst performance and he was hurt in that fight.

          then you go and say pac was prolly juiced up to the max for all fights, even though you felt pac lost the 3rd, and got knocked out in the 4th????? so that logic only works for marquez??

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            #6
            Originally posted by chrisJS
            Also the claim that "roids won the fight" when if you look at the facts Marquez worst performance was in the 4th fight and also was the most hurt he'd been in the series. Also, Marquez was able to hurt Pacquaio multiple times in the first two fights. He had him on ***** Street with a hard counter in round 2 of fight II.
            so in your words, marquez couldnt have been on the juice since the 4th fight was one of his worst performance, and he was also hurt in that fight.

            then right after that you said pac was prolly juiced up in all 4 fights. then you said marquez had pac on ***** street multiple times in the first two fights. so if pac was jucing for all 4 fights, how was marquez able to put pac on ***** street multiple times? LOL!! you didnt think this one through.

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              #7
              Originally posted by chrisJS
              The KD point in the first fight. Well, if Cortez had done the correct thing and deducted a point from Pacquaio for clearly hitting an opponent whilst down he'd have lost one point on THREE cards.
              well, if cortez did his job and score that as a knock down then the fight would have been over already so there wouldnt be any point to deduct lmao!!!!!!!!

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                #8
                Originally posted by WesternChamp
                so in your words, marquez couldnt have been on the juice since the 4th fight was one of his worst performance, and he was also hurt in that fight.

                then right after that you said pac was prolly juiced up in all 4 fights. then you said marquez had pac on ***** street multiple times in the first two fights. so if pac was jucing for all 4 fights, how was marquez able to put pac on ***** street multiple times? LOL!! you didnt think this one through.
                I didn't say couldn't have been. I'm merely pointing out that Pacquaio fanboys tend to go a little too far with the roid thing when their man has had that cloud for the longest time.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by WesternChamp
                  well, if cortez did his job and score that as a knock down then the fight would have been over already so there wouldnt be any point to deduct lmao!!!!!!!!
                  What? He did score a knockdown WTF you talking about?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by chrisJS
                    I didn't say couldn't have been. I'm merely pointing out that Pacquaio fanboys tend to go a little too far with the roid thing when their man has had that cloud for the longest time.
                    but the reasons you used doesnt make sense. you said pac was juiced up for all 4 fights, and then you make claims that marquez hurt pac in the first two fights, then goes on and said marquez couldnt have been on peds in the 4th fight since pac was able to hurt him in that fight and it was one of marquez worst performance. do you see what you did wrong there?? LOL!! you're basically using the same reasons for BOTH pac and marquez but you're only blaming manny. LOL.

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