Comments Thread For: Manuel Charr Drops, Decisions Alexander Ustinov For WBA Belt

[donjigga11]

Joshua vs. Charr... that's what we can expect next year.

Charrs already been brutally knocked out by Povetkin and Cruiserweight Breidis while losing to Duhaupas.... for his own safety the WBA should never order that fight.

[Scipio2009]

Not yet

I reckon there will be around 10 promoters on the phone to Charrs people to get him against their guy.

We could see Charr in against the following next:

Dillian Whyte
Dominic Breazeale
Tyson Fury
Hughie Fury
Alexander Povetkin
Andy Ruiz jr
Jarrell Miller
Kubrat Pulev
Luis Ortiz

I would pick most of the above to beat Charr.

Charr still needs to beat Oquendo. He likely beats Oquendo (admittedly haven't seen the Ustinov fight), but he's basically a royal flush draw at this point.

Still, this is a preview of the coming future; with the WBC, WBA, IBF on good terms, and the WBO rarely calling mandatories to begin with, if Wilder-Joshua ends up going the way things are expected, the focus of any heavyweight worth anything is going to be on becoming mandatory challenger (and staying as they prep for their shot).

With the doing away with their three belts, the days green-gold, black-gold, and red-gold medals for the mandatory aren't too far away.

[bronx7]

True Wilder or Joshua will jump on a defense against all heart slow no D Charr it’s a shame wrong guys have heart the mix of talent and heart are the elite legends

[K Man]

Look.

Back in the 1980's when Tyson held all three World Title Belts WBC, WBA and IBF belts, he was considered Undisputed World Heavyweight Champion but not the Real Heavyweight Champion as that was Michael Spinks.

Tyson became Linear Heavyweight Champion when he beat Spinks.

Due to Tyson Fury vacating title. Linear Champion will be created when the two best Belt Holders face each other.

WILDER vs JOSHUA winner will become LINEAR CHAMPION for me.

How about AJ vs Klit ?

[Scipio2009]

Joshua is a World Title Belt Holder but not THE HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION.

LINEAR is all that counts at Heavyweight as we can see a clear Path.

ALI > HOLMES > SPINKS > TYSON > BUSTER DOUGLAS > HOLYFIELD > BOWE > HOLYFIELD > MOORER > FOREMAN > BRIGGS > LEWIS > RAHMAN > LEWIS > VACANT > Wladimir KLITSCHKO > FURY

Current LINEAR TITLE : VACANT

You can't go from vacant to crowning a new champion without re-establishing the titles under one champion, something that Wladimir Klitschko never did.

Lewis stopped Vitali Klitschko on cuts in their fight, and there hasn't been a lineal champion since, unless you want to count "Klitschko brothers" as a single champion. If you count that, you've got an established lineal champion from July 2011 through September 2012.

14 months

[Deus]

Charr still needs to beat Oquendo. He likely beats Oquendo (admittedly haven't seen the Ustinov fight), but he's basically a royal flush draw at this point.

Gotta presume that the winner of Charr v Oquendo will just sit on the belt and do nothing at all until the WBA push for a 'unification' of their 2 belts.

[PunchyPotorff]

1st we get Charr vs. Fres which neither HBO, Showtime, or ESPN will pick up. The purse bid should be funny as ***! Two packs of smokes, some used gum, a couple of pins, and some pocket lint...

LOL! I don't think it's possible to get any kind of HW belt without have to fight Fres Oquendo. It's like he's part of a package deal. LOL

[PunchyPotorff]

Ring magazine has nothing to do with lineal anymore. Ring magazine was purchased by HBO's lead promoter and all of the rules were changed to benefit HBO. So you can't treat Ring and lineal as the same thing as Ring rules and lineal rules are completely different and Ring is no longer an independent arbiter. They're an in house propaganda machine.

I was wondering why HBO mentions Ring a lot more recently.

[N/A]

I was wondering why HBO mentions Ring a lot more recently.

Golden Boy Promotions purchased Ring Magazine ten years ago and has slowly ruined it ever since. Originally it was promised that they would not interfere with the editorial process, but that has been repeatedly exposed as a lie as journalist after journalist has quit in disgust and revealed Golden Boy's interference.

Since that time, the championship policy has been radically changed to allow Golden Boy extreme leeway in crowning and stripping champions to benefit HBO and hinder Showtime. The rules of the Ring title, which are selectively and corruptly enforced, make it very clear that lineal has nothing to do with it at this point.

A lineal title vacancy can only be filled by #1 fighting #2. However, a Ring title vacancy can be filled by #2 fighting #5.

A lineal champion can't be stripped for not fighting arbitrary "mandatory" challengers, a Ring champion can and has been stripped for not fulfilling Ring's arbitrary mandatory obligations (although only SHO fighters have been stripped in this manner, HBO fighters have not).

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GIFS: Manuel Charr vs. Alexander Ustinov





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