Comments Thread For: Ellerbe: De La Hoya Making a Mockery of Himself, Fans Laughing!

[Lemonhead_Jeff]

Floyd haters are so pathetic lol. You're never going to get over it. Good.

I'm not a Floyd hater, and I have nothing to get over. Floyd is Floyd. He made a lot of money, but most of the general public would not recognize him, and they couldn't care less who he is. I don't know why that fact has to be so painful for Floyd's effeminate fans.

[Lemonhead_Jeff]

If that was true why isn't there any boxers continually doing 1 mil PPVs then? If there's so many platforms and easily available to order PPV?

As the opportunity to purchase PPV has become more available, so has the amount of opportunities to pirate those PPV events. There is much more opportunities to watch boxing illegally, and the sport does not generate as much interest as it used to. Boxing's reputation has continued to suffer while other combat sports have emerged and divided the casual fan's interest. The world is a completely different place than it was 30 years ago. It's like trying to compare the music industry of the 90's to the way it's currently run.

[Lemonhead_Jeff]

I remember making those calls, and I generally agree, but De La Hoya was never on a Floyd level. There's a reason his biggest payday and buyrate was against Floyd. The kid was a star regardless of the hate. He went on to do things no one thought was possible. We're talking about nearly $1.9 billion in PPV revenue alone. When you add in the live gate and misc income, that guy generated over $2.5 billion in revenue in a 12 year window. Its remarkable.

In similar market conditions, Tyson could've probably generated similar numbers

Floyd made more money, but it was somehow under the radar, because nobody knows who he is. Boxing fans, and casual sports fans know who he is, but your grandma knew who Mike Tyson was. Your old aunt who never goes out, she knew who Tyson was. Little kids were talking about Tyson in the schoolyard at recess. He was a star. Floyd is rich, but nobody seems to care. Ask random people. The kind who are not typically sports fans. They'll say "Mayflower who?"

[Butch.McRae]

Floyd made more money, but it was somehow under the radar, because nobody knows who he is. Boxing fans, and casual sports fans know who he is, but your grandma knew who Mike Tyson was. Your old aunt who never goes out, she knew who Tyson was. Little kids were talking about Tyson in the schoolyard at recess. He was a star. Floyd is rich, but nobody seems to care. Ask random people. The kind who are not typically sports fans. They'll say "Mayflower who?"

In the US everybody knows who Floyd is. Not sure about other places though. His domestic violence stuff made him a household name here.

[joseph5620]

Oscar was setting PPV records. Oscar and Tyson were the all-time top draws before Floyd emerged as a PPV star himself. In the early to mid 90's, when Tyson was the biggest star in the world, not every household had a set-top box capable of providing PPV. You'd have to drive to the cable company, borrow a box, and then return it the next day. Even after those boxes became commonplace in homes, you would still have to actually call the cable company to order the PPV. It was a bigger deal. Not as casual as today. Mike Tyson selling a million+ PPV in the early 90's is more significant than Floyd selling a million+ in 201X.

Everything you said here is not true. I was around during those fights and if you had cable all had to do to order the fight was order it by the phone or get the box installed if you didn't.

There was nothing complex about it. There was also no streaming in those days which diminishes numbers.

[Santa_]

LOL, I remember when this clown slid across stage to defend Floyd's honor.

[Sweet Jones]

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Everything you said here is not true. I was around during those fights and if you had cable all had to do to order the fight was order it by the phone or get the box installed if you didn't.

There was nothing complex about it. There was also no streaming in those days which diminishes numbers.

In fairness, in the early to late 80s, that was exactly how PPVs were done (at least where I lived).

And for weekend fights, that descrambler box had to be picked up by Friday, because the cable company was closed on Saturdays.

But by the 90s, directly through the cable box was more readily available.

[joseph5620]

In fairness, in the early to late 80s, that was exactly how PPVs were done (at least where I lived).

And for weekend fights, that descrambler box had to be picked up by Friday, because the cable company was closed on Saturdays.

But by the 90s, directly through the cable box was more readily available.

I truly don't know about the early or late 80's. I was referring to the 90's when I started watching PPV.

[PsychoPat]

In fairness, in the early to late 80s, that was exactly how PPVs were done (at least where I lived).

And for weekend fights, that descrambler box had to be picked up by Friday, because the cable company was closed on Saturdays.

But by the 90s, directly through the cable box was more readily available.

Ive been buying ppvs since 1935 on tv nothing much has changed.

[Lemonhead_Jeff]

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Everything you said here is not true. I was around during those fights and if you had cable all had to do to order the fight was order it by the phone or get the box installed if you didn't.

There was nothing complex about it. There was also no streaming in those days which diminishes numbers.

If you're talking about the set-top boxes during Oscar's career, yes, many were becoming more sophisticated. That's the late 90's and early 2000's.
I was talking more about the late 80's, when some people may still have been using a "remote control" that was connected to their television by a cable! Even into the early to mid 90's most people had very basic set-top boxes. Don't underestimate how much technology has advanced. When Mike Tyson won the title, some homes still had rotary-dial telephones in use, and only about 30% of households owned a VCR. By the time Tyson retired, almost every person owned a cellphone, and most homes had multiple DVD-players.
....and now I sound like Grandpa Simpson.