I see a lot flip-flopping frauds on here

[NaijaD]

At any time in the last several years?

Wilder is better and a bigger name than everyone on AJ's resume minus Wlad. This fight could have been made literally any time over the last several years. The ONLY time it wouldnt have made sense for AJ to make the fight was when he was reviewing his offer for the Wlad fight.

Where is this talk of several years coming from?

Joshua has been a champion for a year and a half. During the time he has been champ Wilder has fought Arreola, Gerald Washington and Stiverne a second time. Arreola was a "late replacement" and Washington was supposedly a tune-up fight after his injury against Arreola. By this time AJ was locked in with Wlad and mandatories.


So again how was the fight possible or feasible until now??

[juggernaut666]

At any time in the last several years?

Wilder is better and a bigger name than everyone on AJ's resume minus Wlad. This fight could have been made literally any time over the last several years. The ONLY time it wouldnt have made sense for AJ to make the fight was when he was reviewing his offer for the Wlad fight.

Several years ? lol

Joshua won his belt in 2016 ,in that time frame Wilder was scheduled to fight Povetkin in May of 2016 this was a month after Joshua won his title . He then took on Breazeale in June while Wilder made Arreola a Povetkin replacement Voluntary fight .

Joshua was scheduled to fight Klitchko in Nov. of 2016 but he was injured so Molina was last minute replacement but he was still scheduled for a Klitchko fight in 2017 . After that BOTH guys had Mandatories to fullfill which both recently did .

This fight could not have happened even if Joshua was ranked a top 15 fighter in the WBC when Povetkin pulled out and it would be Joshuas 17th pro fight ? It just wouldn't make sense.. lol


Klitchko was by far a bigger win /bigger pay day than unproven Wilder so he wouldn't miss that opportunity and go the other way .

Joshua is DUCKING though @ the actual FLIP FLOPPER theorists on here Red Foxx too who RAN off the other thread who also insists Hearn and Co. are DUCKING Wilder !

[soul_survivor]

This AJ vs Wilder situation is really exposing a lot of you.

I've had flashbacks to Ward vs Kovalev, the same guys who were supporting Ward and saying he shouldn't fight till he gets the amount he wants are now ignoring the financial negotiation aspects of AJ vs Wilder. You guys were alright with the rematch not happening till 7 months later yet you're mad because the AJ Wilder hasn't been signed in one week. Now I'm hearing AJ has been ducking Wilder for a while, when was the fight possible until just now?? Stop embarrassing yourselves.

The same applies to the people who are saying the fight needs building up but in the past have refused this line of thinking when it came to proposed fights such Tank Davis vs Loma and even the first fight fight between Ward and Kovalev.... a lot of you have gone from "why can't Ward and Kovalev fight now?.... why does Ward need tune ups" to "the AJ Wilder fight needs to properly built up". YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!!

My stance on Ward Kovalev rematch was patience as long as Ward wasn't asking for more money because that was economically unreasonable. My stance for AJ vs Wilder is the same: patience. It will happen in 2018, probably in the summer as long as money is not an issue.

The truth is most of you aren't as noble as you think, you'll happily change your line of thinking when it suits you.

Well duh!

Most of the posters on here and sadly, most of the American posters, are racially or nationally biased.

Heck, let me give you another example, they moaned when Hearn offered Wilder the biggest pay day, by far, of his career against Whyte, to be held in the UK and further Wilders recognition, by saying WHyte wasnt good enough....and yet made no complaints about Wilder fighting the likes of Washington and Molina.

Lets be honest ,real boxing fans on here barely number 3 or 4.

I for one want AJ to ko Wilder and stop the ridiculous hype.

[Sparked_26]

let's be honest, I don't think anyone is up for a year plus of this crap on here.

Surely, we all want it to happen. If it doesn't we'll know why because Eddie Hearn isn't discreet and he'll take his cue from Wilder who talks bubbles. And that will encourage more vitriol from both sides until ones of them is ironed out by someone else.

[LetOutTheCage]

Several years ? lol

Joshua won his belt in 2016 ,in that time frame Wilder was scheduled to fight Povetkin in May of 2016 this was a month after Joshua won his title . He then took on Breazeale in June while Wilder made Arreola a Povetkin replacement Voluntary fight .

Joshua was scheduled to fight Klitchko in Nov. of 2016 but he was injured so Molina was last minute replacement but he was still scheduled for a Klitchko fight in 2017 . After that BOTH guys had Mandatories to fullfill which both recently did .

This fight could not have happened even if Joshua was ranked a top 15 fighter in the WBC when Povetkin pulled out and it would be Joshuas 17th pro fight ? It just wouldn't make sense.. lol


Klitchko was by far a bigger win /bigger pay day than unproven Wilder so he wouldn't miss that opportunity and go the other way .

Joshua is DUCKING though @ the actual FLIP FLOPPER theorists on here Red Foxx too who RAN off the other thread who also insists Hearn and Co. are DUCKING Wilder !

See I really dont understand these claims, Joshua had a fight like 2 weeks ago, he has publicly said he wants the fight and is willing to sit down and negotiate, we have no idea who he is going to fight next so any talk of ducking is unfounded and silly.

From the sounds of things its Wilder who already has a fight in place (against Brezeale). It will be very interesting to see how the 'neutral' fans react if Wilder does go on to fight Brezeale next, will they turn on Wilder and call him a ducker or will they make excuses.

[Chrismart]

I think the Brezeale fight is next for Wilder. Already a done deal.
Joshua just fought 10 minutes ago, Wilder 5 minutes ago, yet we got talk of ducking?

We are getting told that both sides are sitting down today to talk. That how it really starts, not by doing a Lara and making vids for Instagram and Twitter.

Breazle/Wilder and Joshua/Parker first in 2018 would not surprise me at all.
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As for the flip flopping, another example i've noticed is about the money. Now that part doesn't interest me much, good luck to the fighters but it's not my ££ so i don't worry about it. But i see a lot of the guys who ran up the 50 page threads on GGG/Canelo splits now saying '**** the money talk'.

They lost their **** over GGG not excepting a flat offer because they pointed towards Canelo being the guy who put bums on seats. That for them was enough reason for Canelo to walk away from a fight if GGG didn't agree, no matter what quality GGG brought to the fight/table.

But now we have a fight between one guy who sells out open air stadiums, and makes much higher purses than the other guy. But now it's time to knock off the money talk, or it's an excuse?

All that flip flopping can catch you out :

[juggernaut666]

See I really dont understand these claims, Joshua had a fight like 2 weeks ago, he has publicly said he wants the fight and is willing to sit down and negotiate, we have no idea who he is going to fight next so any talk of ducking is unfounded and silly.

From the sounds of things its Wilder who already has a fight in place (against Brezeale). It will be very interesting to see how the 'neutral' fans react if Wilder does go on to fight Brezeale next, will they turn on Wilder and call him a ducker or will they make excuses.

The point of that post was that the Wilder vs Joshua fight was NEVER possible and CANT be until the year 2018 . These dummies just dont get it . SOME of them actually used Wilder avoiding Klitchko to that of Joshua avoiding Wilder ? Can you believe the ******ity on here ? lol


Lets hope the fight DOES happen though bc Wilder is already stating he will not except less than 50 % , because NO one brings excitement to the sport like he does and has 6 title defenses (no top ten ) ?

He cant even comprehend why all other Joshua fights were easy to make but this one isn't , yet it hasn't been tried to get made yet ? The guy is a world class dummy as well as fighter . He even said Stivernes 254 pounds is the same as Joshuas bc weight is weight ? lol

[b00g13man]

Look I know your getting old and your memory isnt quite what it used to be but try to keep up. You can go back and look through the threads if you want, most people considered them a joke but there were also people saying Joshua would get exposed by a tricky south paw with power (Martin).

That's it! I'm driving to Wales today to mess you up.

[LetOutTheCage]

That's it! I'm driving to Wales today to mess you up.

I bet you fall asleep half way and forget where you are!

[b00g13man]

Brezeale was definitely a walkover opponent, no one gave him a hope in hell unless you count the usual American trolls like 1hourrun and sugarkainehook.

The general consensus was that Martin was coming over to sell his belt, most thought he would last longer but the guess was he had no shot. So neither guy was hyped, if Wilder suffers the same fate then you could say he had hype behind him cause I see a lot of posters picking him and not just the trolls.

That's exactly how I remember it. Wilder definitely has hype behind him, so that's a completely different story.