Shelly Finkel in 2015 - "Wilder Will Not Be Rushed To Klitschko"

[N/A]

So are you willing to admit Wilder ducked Wlad?

Don't think you can call it a duck because by the time Klitschko would have been available to fight Wilder, Wilder was willing to fight him. When Wilder won the title, his team made it clear they wanted him to get a couple defenses under his belt before pursuing a huge fight.

And true to their word, but the end of 2015, after he'd been the champion for almost a year, Wilder went public that he wanted Klitschko in 2016 and was willing to do whatever it took to get him.

Since Klitschko wouldn't have been available in 2015 anyway, I'm not sure you can really duck a fight that wasn't available.

BUT, had the Klitschko fight been offered for 2015, yes, Wilder would have ducked it. Definitely. But by late 2015, his team felt he would be ready for Klitschko in 2016 and they definitely wouldn't have ducked it in 2016.

[juggernaut666]

So, we agree he may have avoided Klitschko? And, that's bad, right?
Ok, then why are you so cool with AJ avoiding Wilder?

Please resist the temptation to go off subject or deflect, because I know that's coming...

You truly live in fantasy land if you remotely think i need to deflect ANY topic you throw at me !

Joshua wont fight Wilder until summer 2018 UNLESS Wilder is WILLING to takea major paycut . Only nitwits cant understand this along with CLOSEST fanboys ( do you know them? )

Honestly YOU guys have to be pure ****** not to decipher a BLATENT Klitchko duck by Wilder who had NO intention of fighting Klitchko to that of a young up and comer who IS going to be fighting a 40 something fight experienced and longer champion vs Joshua only being a champion for less than 2 years and 20 fights

.......and it WILL happen OBVIOUSLY bc Joshua WANTS the fight to happen !


Hows that for a DEFLECTION ?

[Lou Cipher]

What a nightmare it wouldve been watching Wladi***** hug Wilder for 12 rounds in Germany. Bravo Mr. Finkel. Bravo. You crooked old fuck you. Got this one right at least. Die though. Fuck.

[juggernaut666]

I think a loss will break him. He's a creation and once he's exposed he doesn't have the talent or skill level to really become elite so with a crushing loss he'd be Michael Grant part II.

Klitchko lost a few times before he got it right . Wilder hasnt lost and went down the easy path when he could so ? Im going to say going by Wilders mental state a loss to Klitchko improves him . IMO

[sunny31]

Yes, we listened to the entire show last night. Where Eddie wasn't being honest was with all the Whyte nonsense. Now that's been dropped because of the statement Wilder made Saturday. As well as Finkel going public about Eddie ducking him.

I think Eddie was very honest on that podcast you posted and he realizes Wilder has backed him into a corner and the Whyte ruse won't fly.

But where Eddie wasn't being honest is when he was trying to buy time with Whyte, whereas in 2015 Finkel was straight up about Wilder not being ready.

Hopefully it's all water under the bridge now and Finkel & Hearn are locked in a room trying to hammer something out.

I don't think it was so much about buying time to be honest. I feel it was more about Hearn trying to familiarise the British casual boxing fans with Wilder, against an opponent they know, and can directly compare and contrast performances with Joshua. The casuals won't go out of their way to watch Wilder fight.

I think it was very clever promoting from Hearn, and a solid plan. I feel Wilder is not going for it out of ego more than anything else, which is fine its his prerogative. From Hearn's point of view - he wins either way, so obviously it suited his interests, it doesn't mean it wasn't a good deal for Wilder, he was offering him nearly triple his career highest pay day. Plus it really does help build the Joshua fight and probably adds serious UK PPV buys to that fight.

Either way they have confirmed they definitely want the Wilder fight in 2018, I still wouldn't be surprised if the whole Whyte first thing comes off with Hearn bending on a casual agreement for the Joshua fight straight after.

[sunny31]

So, we agree he may have avoided Klitschko? And, that's bad, right?
Ok, then why are you so cool with AJ avoiding Wilder?

Please resist the temptation to go off subject or deflect, because I know that's coming...

Also how can you ascertain that Joshua is avoiding Wilder?

Where have they not taken the fight, and had a clear opportunity to do so? I am not sure why you have been so hell-bent on this over the past few days and jumped all over Joshua when nothing has had a chance to develop.

[Redd Foxx]

You truly live in fantasy land if you remotely think i need to deflect ANY topic you throw at me !

Joshua wont fight Wilder until summer 2018 UNLESS Wilder is WILLING to takea major paycut . Only nitwits cant understand this along with CLOSEST fanboys ( do you know them? )

Honestly YOU guys have to be pure ****** not to decipher a BLATENT Klitchko duck by Wilder who had NO intention of fighting Klitchko to that of a young up and comer who IS going to be fighting a 40 something fight experienced and longer champion vs Joshua only being a champion for less than 2 years and 20 fights

.......and it WILL happen OBVIOUSLY bc Joshua WANTS the fight to happen !


Hows that for a DEFLECTION ?

And.... you didn't answer the question, just like I predicted.
That's ok, go about your business. I was foolish to expect you to have the integrity to answer that. I won't bother you anymore.

[Redd Foxx]

Also how can you ascertain that Joshua is avoiding Wilder?

Where have they not taken the fight, and had a clear opportunity to do so? I am not sure why you have been so hell-bent on this over the past few days and jumped all over Joshua when nothing has had a chance to develop.

Hearn has demanded Wilder fight Whyte, and won't even give him an AJ guarantee. I'm not going to be kind about this anymore; anyone who doesn't find that suspect is a delusional fanboy, or just a straight idiot when it comes to boxing. PERIOD.

I'm fine with people liking AJ. I really don't like or dislike him. It's what his promoter is doing that is wrong. Same with Oscar in the Canelo situation but no one here has the balls to be honest about it because they think criticizing Hearn is criticizing Joshua. That's some simple-minded bullshyt.

[Earl-Hickey]

Lol, these guys are SO insecure. Instead of just being honest about what Hearn is doing with AJ, they say, "Look, this guy did it too!!"

Clearly you think avoiding another champ is uncool. So, you must think what Hearn is doing with AJ is is wrong.

Having an opinion one way or the other is OK, but FFS, stay consistent.

The truth is this.

They spoon fed wilder bums for 7 years while he developed and got experience then when he was ready and it was the right thing to do because its only recently hes become as good as he is.

With joshua hearn really want to do the same thing because he knows joshua aint ready and theres been damn worrying signs in the last 2 fights.

I didnt agree with it either time and people have to remember wilder got a ton of abuse for it so its only fair the other way.

[brettWall]

In a way Joshua fulfilled his self-imposed condition and that was to fight and beat Klitschko.

What about Wilder? He gets awarded a big fight by just fighting Stiverne twice?

That sounds unfair and comical. Is that a fighter that deserves a lucrative fight?

How about Wilder fighting a Fury equivalent first before getting the Joshua fight?