Is Deontay Wilder really a A-Level fighter? If so, why isn't Shawn Porter

[Sheldon312]

Joshua is no way in hell on the same level as Crawford or Spence or Thurman

Disagree, you're just saying that because they are faster. But if you look at ring IQ and skills, Joshua is in the same class as them. Don't forget that HW are a lot slower but stronger than WW

[Sheldon312]

Porter does not fight like an A side fighter, he's lost twice. The guy can be outboxed if people have the right game plan and a jab.

I think hes just a pitbull, tough test for anyone due to the way he fights.

A sides are usually undefeated, you should know this.

Loma, Ali, Foreman, Tyson, Lewis, Duran, Pac, Oscar, Mosley, Tszyu, and Tito, Leonard, Hearns, and Canelo all lost. Wouldn't you say that they are A-Level fighters?

[Larry the boss]

Disagree, you're just saying that because they are faster. But if you look at ring IQ and skills, Joshua is in the same class as them. Don't forget that HW are a lot slower but stronger than WW

It is not about speed, they are far more complete fighters then Joshua. He has a long way to go as he make huge fundamental mistakes and doesnt appear as a fluid natural boxer at the moment

[Real King Kong]

There may be no truly A level Hws right now. Joshua has the potential but he's a little green. Wilder has never faced anything close to the type of opposition that porter has...if someone as fundamentally flawed as wilder fought in the current ww division, they'd more than likely have been exposed already.

[Larry the boss]

There may be no truly A level Hws right now. Joshua has the potential but he's a little green. Wilder has never faced anything close to the type of opposition that porter has...if someone as fundamentally flawed as wilder fought in the current ww division, they'd more than likely have been exposed already.

Agree, they all seem to lack true fundamentals and seem to be learning on the job

[Chuckguy]

The way I would see it is put AJ against a prime Lewis. How would he fair? IMO not too good. I see Lewis making quick work ofhim

[Raggamuffin]

Joshua is no way in hell on the same level as Crawford or Spence or Thurman

Don't you know why this thread was created, lmao. Come on Larry, get with the program lol... Porter...Wilder. And then he defends Joshua lol. Bruuuuuuuuh!

[FinitoxDinamita]

Tyson fury is the only A level fighter at HW.

[Raggamuffin]

There may be no truly A level Hws right now. Joshua has the potential but he's a little green. Wilder has never faced anything close to the type of opposition that porter has...if someone as fundamentally flawed as wilder fought in the current ww division, they'd more than likely have been exposed already.

Joshua has no fundamentals. He doesn't have the potential. He has many flaws. He imo has more flaws than Wilder.

[Cutthroat]

There may be no truly A level Hws right now. Joshua has the potential but he's a little green. Wilder has never faced anything close to the type of opposition that porter has...if someone as fundamentally flawed as wilder fought in the current ww division, they'd more than likely have been exposed already.

Nonsense. All the heavies from the past have shown flaws, nobody has been perfect. If anything HW is the strongest it's been in years.

Ali didn't get dropped by 185lb Henry Cooper?

Tyson didn't get knocked out by Buster Douglas?

Lewis didn't get knocked out by Rahman and McCall?

Haye didn't go life and death with Valuev?

Wlad didn't get stopped by Brewster, Purrity, Sanders, dropped 3x by Peter, Joshua, Fury?

Vitali didn't get stopped by a 38 year old 256lb Lewis? Didn't get put on bambi legs by a retired golfer Corrie Sanders?


You could put Wilder, Fury, and Joshua against anybody in history and they could more than hold their own. Far too big, this is a new era of MONSTER heavies.