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  • #11
    Originally posted by 786 View Post
    The dynamics were completely different, Holyfield lost to Bowe twice and Moorer, was starting to look past his best and had his heart problems all while Lewis was building himself up but took a setback against McCall, got Manny Steward and got to the top. They weren't the top 2 HW's at the same time for too long before they got it on. People thought Holyfield was shot before the first Tyson fight, Holyfield was then recognised as one of the top HW's after beating Tyson, less than 2 and a half years later he was in the ring with Lewis.

    Lewis and Holyfield were the top 2 HW's at the same time for about 2.5 years before their fight. AJ and Wilder have been recognised as that for nearly 2 years, what's wrong with wanting them to get it on summer 2018? Why wait another 4 years or 8/9 years like you're suggesting with that nonsensical comparison?
    Joshua won the belt in 2016 to suggest he is ducking anyone is nonsense . Both Holyfield and Lewis were fighting the top guys , Wilder is not . Lewis and Bowe never even fought ? lol

    Wilder title defenses are laughable and its not up to the fans to change that its up too him no matter who or why he couldn't get fights made .

    Tyson himself did not fight Holyfield from 1990 to 1995 for actual reasons bc of a prison sentance and hearsay of injuries and what seemed to be Lou Duvas reluctance to make the fight happen anyway .

    I didnt say the fight should happen 8 years from now but anyone calling Joshua a duck if the fight sfight doesnt happen soon is simply new to the sport .
    Last edited by juggernaut666; 11-05-2017, 08:55 AM.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
      ... "Stiverne performance" ...
      ... I liked that..................

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Pan-Africanist View Post
        Keep hiding behind Whyte. Wilder is already applying the pressure and AJ will be look like a bytch. I’m gonna enjoy the next 12 to 18 months shytting on any and everything British boxing related until AJ steps up.
        LOL. A king doesn't fight peasants. They just need to focus on Wilder versus Joshua and negotiating that.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by jreckoning View Post
          LOL. A king doesn't fight peasants. They just need to focus on Wilder versus Joshua and negotiating that.
          He just fought an old, washed-up peasant last night lol

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          • #15
            Originally posted by DramaShow View Post
            they are so desperte for wilder to be the real deal. its funny though, a lot of these fans are 'sweet scientists', the same people who call golovkin a caveman and dont like him cause of lack of defence and slickness, yet they are big wilder fans lol, i wonder why that is.
            golovkin fans wrote the book on being desperate for someone to be the "real deal"...lol...pot meet kettle....

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            • #16
              what statement did wilder make? we were all laughing at this fight since it was anounced, we were all laughing at the fact that stiverne said he was dehydrated for this first one, we were all laughing at the fact that he was even fatter for this one. again, what statement did wilder make?

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Vinnykin View Post
                He just fought an old, washed-up peasant last night lol
                Yeah he did, and knocked that peasant unconscious in a single round. Unlike AJ, whose peasant he fought was still standing after 10 rounds wondering why the ref put him in a headlock.

                But you guys keep thinking AJ KOs the REAL champ. Only in UK

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Vinnykin View Post
                  He just fought an old, washed-up peasant last night lol
                  Originally posted by Dean_Razorback View Post
                  what statement did wilder make? we were all laughing at this fight since it was anounced, we were all laughing at the fact that stiverne said he was dehydrated for this first one, we were all laughing at the fact that he was even fatter for this one. again, what statement did wilder make?
                  He stated he wanted Joshua. King versus King. No peasants.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
                    Joshua won the belt in 2016 to suggest he is ducking anyone is nonsense . Both Holyfield and Lewis were fighting the top guys , Wilder is not . Lewis and Bowe never even fought ? lol

                    Wilder title defenses are laughable and its not up to the fans to change that its up too him no matter who or why he couldn't get fights made .

                    Tyson himself did not fight Holyfield from 1990 to 1995 for actual reasons bc of a prison sentance and hearsay of injuries and what seemed to be Lou Duvas reluctance to make the fight happen anyway .

                    I didnt say the fight should happen 8 years from now but anyone calling Joshua a duck if the fight sfight doesnt happen soon is simply new to the sport .
                    Never said Lewis and Bowe ever fought, said Holyfield lost twice to Bowe.

                    My point is AJ and Wilder are arguably considered the top 2 in the division at the moment, they both hold world titles, most if not all fans should want that fight to happen. Your response was that Lewis and Holyfield were pros for a long time before they got in the ring. Holyfield and Lewis were only at the top of the division at the same time for about 2.5 years before their fight happened, about the same duration of time AJ and Wilder will be at the top of the division around summer of 2018. There's nothing wrong with wanting the fight to happen in 2018, no one's ducking if it happens next year. Anyone who thinks the Holyfield-Lewis dynamic is comparable to AJ-Wilder is definitely new to the sport.

                    My first post in this thread had nothing to do with who's ducking who, I simply said it's strange that some fans, such as yourself seem content for this fight not to happen. I thought all fans of the sport will want to see this fight next year?
                    Last edited by 786; 11-05-2017, 10:08 AM.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by GGG Gloveking View Post
                      Yeah he did, and knocked that peasant unconscious in a single round. Unlike AJ, whose peasant he fought was still standing after 10 rounds wondering why the ref put him in a headlock.

                      But you guys keep thinking AJ KOs the REAL champ. Only in UK
                      It was good work for Joshua, got rounds in the bank. Wilder will gain nothing from this mismatch.

                      Takam is active and a much better boxer than Stiverne, much harder to hit clean.

                      Stupid comparison really. You just have to look at them to know one is in shape and the other is an old bum.

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