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  • #41
    Originally posted by Vinnykin View Post
    I don't see how they could guarantee a fight before the negotiations, networks, splits for said fight after are sorted?

    Has this ever been done before? They would have to sort out the splits for Joshua fight but how do you guarantee Wilder a split and then he looks like **** in the fight, or it's not a good fight it and it devalues him....or it ends in a draw? Or Whyte gets injured in the first round etc etc

    This is what people have to realise. Hearn has promised on camera that if he beats Whyte they will negotiate the Joshua fight, that should be enough. And I'll be the first erson on here to turn on him and AJ if he were to renege on that promise.
    It's not going to be done for that reason, Wilder could just go over to the UK and fight Whyte and make it boring if splits already agreed. He has no incentive to make it an entertaining fight.

    The reality is Deontay doesn't want the fight. He knows AJ doesn't want to fight until next year so its safe to call him out. If Wilder really wanted Joshua next, he would have Al and Di Bella make AJ and Eddie an offer like Eddie has made for Wilder for Whyte.

    That's whats bizarre about all the Wilder fans on here, if he wants the fight so bad why hasn't his management and promoter made an offer?

    Bellew wanted to fight Haye and Eddie Hearn made the offer, by all accounts vaseline wasn't applied but Bellew ending up winning the fight and is now in a big money rematch.

    Why doesn't Wilder do the same if he really wants the fight.

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    • #42
      More BS from Wilder.

      He surely knows that the only way Hearn can sign a binding such contract is if all the terms of the AJ fight have been agreed. Can you imagine what a **** show such a negotiation would be? Now they have to specify all kinds of terms that would not normally be necessary AND agree money in advance of being able to negotiate enough terms with PPVs and arenas to understand the

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      • #43
        Can't be done.

        Impossible to pre-negotiate the terms for the Wilder AJ fight ahead of time like that. The finances of such a fight are complex.

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        • #44
          Now lets see the response..

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Vinnykin View Post
            I don't see how they could guarantee a fight before the negotiations, networks, splits for said fight after are sorted?

            Has this ever been done before? They would have to sort out the splits for Joshua fight but how do you guarantee Wilder a split and then he looks like **** in the fight, or it's not a good fight it and it devalues him....or it ends in a draw? Or Whyte gets injured in the first round etc etc

            This is what people have to realise. Hearn has promised on camera that if he beats Whyte they will negotiate the Joshua fight, that should be enough. And I'll be the first erson on here to turn on him and AJ if he were to renege on that promise.
            Actually no. Just like with some rematch clauses, the details get negotiated but the contract requires the rematch. There is ZERO reason why Hearn could not put such a stipulation in the contract.

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            • #46
              No, this is just more bull****ting from Hearn! I pretty much believe that most U.K. Fans can already attest to this fact.

              Seriously dude, with all these stalling and delaying tactics, Eddie has easily become of the biggest bull****ters in boxing. He keeps moving the goal post.

              It's an obvious angle to help Anthony Joshua to hold onto his titles just a little while longer.
              Last edited by champion4ever; 10-26-2017, 05:19 PM.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Stinger1 View Post
                It's not going to be done for that reason, Wilder could just go over to the UK and fight Whyte and make it boring if splits already agreed. He has no incentive to make it an entertaining fight.

                The reality is Deontay doesn't want the fight. He knows AJ doesn't want to fight until next year so its safe to call him out. If Wilder really wanted Joshua next, he would have Al and Di Bella make AJ and Eddie an offer like Eddie has made for Wilder for Whyte.

                That's whats bizarre about all the Wilder fans on here, if he wants the fight so bad why hasn't his management and promoter made an offer?

                Bellew wanted to fight Haye and Eddie Hearn made the offer, by all accounts vaseline wasn't applied but Bellew ending up winning the fight and is now in a big money rematch.

                Why doesn't Wilder do the same if he really wants the fight.
                Wilder's been calling out Joshua for months while he knew Joshua had a mandatory, and he and AJ know it won't happen until the Summer at least. Either way it's promoting Joshua and the fight and this will carry on until the build-up to their unification, the needle will be there and there will be genuine animosity ......I see it building right now and only idiots believe that AJ is ducking Wilder. By the time this fight happens it will be huge.

                I'm not sure if Wilder is in on the plan but he's playing his part.

                I think Joshua will fight Miller in the U.S and Wilder will fight Whyte in the U.K. Imagine 2 champions taking out the nearest challenger from the others country...and then unifying right after. It would be the biggest fight and best thing to happen in the HEavyweight division ever.

                As soon as I heard Hearn say Miller I knew this would play out, I hope it plays out.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by petegrif View Post
                  More BS from Wilder.

                  He surely knows that the only way Hearn can sign a binding such contract is if all the terms of the AJ fight have been agreed. Can you imagine what a **** show such a negotiation would be? Now they have to specify all kinds of terms that would not normally be necessary AND agree money in advance of being able to negotiate enough terms with PPVs and arenas to understand the
                  Rematch clauses don't include every detail and some don't even include split. This isn't new. All that has to be specified is that Joshua fights Wilder in his next fight after Wilder beats Whyte. Then they can negotiate. It's not like Hearn and Wilder don't both want the fight right?

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View Post
                    Actually no. Just like with some rematch clauses, the details get negotiated but the contract requires the rematch. There is ZERO reason why Hearn could not put such a stipulation in the contract.
                    But what are the conditions of rematch clauses? Do the splits swap in the case of the champion losing for example?

                    Putting a clause in a contact before ANY contract has been drawn up for a fight has never been done I don't think.

                    Why are you so confident there is ZERO reason? Do you know boxing contracts and rematch clause conditions?

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                    • #50
                      Gosh wow, now we are talking. That’s how to make a fight and put pressure on Hearn. Get Whyte out of the way like Skysports wanted and then that makes the Joshua fight more interesting. No way Hearn gets out of that because he would be laughed out of boxing.

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