Would Mayweather Still Be Considered Great If He Had a Loss?

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  • Jc8804
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    #111
    Most people think he lost twice already ,


    But he would be who most think he is , a good to
    Great fighter who never beat a prime hall of famer .

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    • IronDanHamza
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      #112
      Originally posted by madsweeney
      Pretty sure Mogabi and Hamsho were inducted and prime when Hagler fought them.

      Hearns is legit prime win IMO.
      Nah I'm pretty sure neither Mugabi or Hamsho are in the HOF. I'm not 100% sure but pretty sure. I just checked the IBHOF's website and I don't see either of them.

      Tommy Hearns at 160 lbs simply is not a prime version of himself.

      Hagler has no wins over prime ATG's or HOF'ers unless those two you mention are infact HOF'ers but last I checked neither are.

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      • hugh grant
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        #113
        Yes Floyd would still be great with official loss.
        But the unbeaten record is the main selling opoint to his supposed greatness, by Floyd himself and his fans but boxing fans aren't fooled by it and don't take too much notice.
        We don't want to pressure Floyd into thinking his greatness rests solely on unbeaten record as welll. He would take even less risks and be even more cautious
        Last edited by hugh grant; 10-27-2017, 04:27 AM.

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        • djtmal
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          #114
          Originally posted by Lou Cipher
          The only draw is going to be me drawing a **** on your tombstone if you don't learn something about Boxing before you come to MY messageboards again.
          somebody mad....

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          • djtmal
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            #115
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza
            Neither were prime versions. That's a fact. Hagler didn't beat any ATG's in their prime or even HOF'ers in their prime for that matter.

            Are you actually trying to suggest that Roberto Duran was in his prime when he fought Hagler? You're a comedian.

            I don't care what the reason is or who's fault it was the fact is neither were prime versions.

            Bringing up Floyd for no reason once again I didn't mention Floyd in my post.
            i bring up Floyd because this is a Floyd thread, or are you just lost on that. I think you are.

            I didn't suggest who was prime pertaining to Hagler, but I tell you this, I'd rather on my resume have the versions of Hearns, Duran, Sugar, and Mugabi on my resume than Floyd had with Cotto, Pac, and Shane any day.

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              #116
              Originally posted by travestyny
              Yea, that's what I thought, bltch. This isn't about saving anyone. This is about facts. Something that your dumb ass tries to sway because you are a butthurt f@g. Stop being a little pvssy and speak the truth.

              Who is it that you believe he ducked. Saying someone ducked while he was retired is ****ing ******. Especially when there is a post here about his "hit-list," and he fought everyone on it. You were probably one of the little pvssies saying he wouldn't fight anyone on the list. Let's discuss who you believe he ducked, starting with Pacquiao since this one is brought up the most. You down???

              Think I proved my point. That being, you're a little ball-less bltch. Thanks.
              Facts to a Floyd Boy, read like a who's who of excuses.

              The only fact here is, Floyd bigtime lost legacy points with that bogus retirement after Hatton, that nobody believed, and stalling fights out trying to make big $ events that in actuality were nothing more than glorified sparring sessions. Guys like you post your "facts" day and night thinking it vilifies him, but the jury is already out with his critics kid.

              Its 2017 and you still making Floyd isn't guilty of ducking the ww division threads. That should speak for itself.

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                #117
                Originally posted by djtmal
                i bring up Floyd because this is a Floyd thread, or are you just lost on that. I think you are.

                I didn't suggest who was prime pertaining to Hagler, but I tell you this, I'd rather on my resume have the versions of Hearns, Duran, Sugar, and Mugabi on my resume than Floyd had with Cotto, Pac, and Shane any day.
                Ok but you replied to me and I didn't mention Floyd so I'm not sure why you bring him up.

                Ok that's fantastic and you are entitled to your opinion but the fact still remains Hagler beat no prime ATG's or HOFers.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by djtmal
                  Facts to a Floyd Boy, read like a who's who of excuses.

                  The only fact here is, Floyd bigtime lost legacy points with that bogus retirement after Hatton, that nobody believed, and stalling fights out trying to make big $ events that in actuality were nothing more than glorified sparring sessions. Guys like you post your "facts" day and night thinking it vilifies him, but the jury is already out with his critics kid.

                  Its 2017 and you still making Floyd isn't guilty of ducking the ww division threads. That should speak for itself.
                  Nah, what you mean is it's 2017 and you're still going around telling lies because you are a pvssy who can't get over the fact that a man worked hard and beat your favorite boxer. It's ****ing ridiculous how you attempt to turn this around when it's clearly based on the fact that the dude made you into a butthurt hater.

                  So don't try to make this about everyone. I'm not here to convince everyone of anything. I'm just here to expose that you're a piece of shlt liar.

                  And that's why I'm here to call you on your bltcha$s-ness, and not only that, I'm willing to step up and go fact for fact with you about the bullshlt you speak.

                  So again, do you want to discuss whom he ducked, beginning with Pacquiao? Matter of fact, we can start with whomever you'd like. Who is it that you think he ducked by retiring? Gonna take a stand behind your word, or are you just going to tuck your tail and shuffle backwards?

                  Let's hear your excuses about that tucked tail now, lil pup.
                  Last edited by travestyny; 10-27-2017, 11:30 AM.

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                  • djtmal
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    Ok but you replied to me and I didn't mention Floyd so I'm not sure why you bring him up.

                    Ok that's fantastic and you are entitled to your opinion but the fact still remains Hagler beat no prime ATG's or HOFers.
                    Yeah but like I said its a Floyd thread so thats why I brought him up. That ain't sink in yet I see.

                    So why you getting off so hard on Hagler not having any prime ATG's or HOF's on his resume in a Floyd thread.

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                    • IronDanHamza
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by djtmal
                      Yeah but like I said its a Floyd thread so thats why I brought him up. That ain't sink in yet I see.

                      So why you getting off so hard on Hagler not having any prime ATG's or HOF's on his resume in a Floyd thread.
                      Right but I responded to a specific point. Never mentioned Floyd. The fact it's a Floyd thread is irrelevant.

                      And I'm not "getting off" I'm merely stating it as that's where the conversation went to, Hagler not beating any prime HOFers.

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