Comments Thread For: Hearn: Wilder, Parker Do Not Warrant a 50-50 Split With Joshua!

[sotgoda]

Joshua sells out stadiums but not in the US. He is a draw over there - not here. So, if he needs to take a greater % of the money (tickets and pay per view) in UK, yes he should. However, the opposite should apply for Wilder here.

This is my recommendation:
UK (tickets + ppv): Joshua (60%) and Wilder (40%)
US (ppv): Joshua (40%) and Wilder (60%)
Anywhere else: Money split 50/50 (worse case: 55/45 for Joshua)

Eddie cannot eat his cake and have it. 1 US PPV usually is equivalent to 3 - 5 UK PPV. Don't know why Eddie is acting like Joshua is big everywhere - he isn't. I still believe they make more money fighting in the US than in the UK irrespective of the 90k stadium. the ticket prices in the US are also more expensive. Lastly, if this happens in Vegas, the taxes are reduced (no state income taxes at least) compared to a place like NY.

The above ratio is what I consider fair - both sides can co-promote. All the fans want is for the fight to happen and not be throwing breadcrumbs at Wilder because of pathetic Eddie.

[TinAgeOfBoxing]

Joshua back to dodging real contenders, back to fighting ****. Why not have AJ fight Whyte and other bums over and over and over, the British monkey peasants will buy anything.

[keith_head]

Maybe I'm underestimating what Top Rank has to offer, but their not doing $3m business with Parker in the US, and I doubt that he's starting anywhere near that in the UK either.

Err, they just did? The purse was roughly the same for the fight that just happened in Manchester; 1.5mil for parker, 1 mil for Hughie or something like that. With that said, I expect Hennessy Sports made a substantial loss on that, so your point does stand.

If Parker was really doing enough business to cover $3m in New Zealand, and Parker was looking to maximize money, it'd make most sense to have enough money standing to bring in any opponent (you could basically fight 98% of the heavyweights on the planet with $500k), and then time things to get the best chance to maximize the international TV (10pm in London, 5pm in New York, 2pm in LA, would mean a 10am Sunday fight time in New Zealand; 10pm in New Zealand would put things at a matinee airing in the UK, and an early morning airing in the US).

Money is still money; maximize your domestic PPV audience, and only move when larger money actually manifests somewhere else.

Isn't that exactly what they've done?

They have their PPV fanbase in NZ. They're trying to expand that fanbase and as nice as that would be to do it on TV, it's much easier to actually accomplish that by being there.

[Deus]

Joshua sells out stadiums but not in the US. He is a draw over there - not here. So, if he needs to take a greater % of the money (tickets and pay per view) in UK, yes he should. However, the opposite should apply for Wilder here.

This is my recommendation:
UK (tickets + ppv): Joshua (60%) and Wilder (40%)
US (ppv): Joshua (40%) and Wilder (60%)
Anywhere else: Money split 50/50 (worse case: 55/45 for Joshua)

Eddie cannot eat his cake and have it. 1 US PPV usually is equivalent to 3 - 5 UK PPV. Don't know why Eddie is acting like Joshua is big everywhere - he isn't. I still believe they make more money fighting in the US than in the UK irrespective of the 90k stadium. the ticket prices in the US are also more expensive. Lastly, if this happens in Vegas, the taxes are reduced (no state income taxes at least) compared to a place like NY.

The above ratio is what I consider fair - both sides can co-promote. All the fans want is for the fight to happen and not be throwing breadcrumbs at Wilder because of pathetic Eddie.

At no point is Wilder ever going to get a bigger purse than Joshua, not even in the States. Viewing numbers show that Wilder isn't really a draw over there and history dictates that if a huge mega fight happens in Vegas then a lot of UK fans will make the trip across, especially when you consider Joshua's fanbase.

[sotgoda]

At no point is Wilder ever going to get a bigger purse than Joshua, not even in the States. Viewing numbers show that Wilder isn't really a draw over there and history dictates that if a huge mega fight happens in Vegas then a lot of UK fans will make the trip across, especially when you consider Joshua's fanbase.

That is your opinion. Deontay is the American and more popular here - whether you want to accept that or not. It is that simple. UK fans cannot eat their cake and have it. I am certain Al Haymon will do his best to ensure Wilder gets his fair share. I don't see how what I listed is unfair to AJ.

Why should he get more or equal share in the US if he is not popular here and the fight wont be hosted here? Even if it is hosted here, it should be 50/50 at best for him. He is not known here. Also, if a heavyweight unification happens, many Americans will show up. So, let's not act like AJ's fans are the ones going to be there the most.

[cally93]

60/40 or 65/35 is fair imo, neither Wilder or Parker can realistically demand more.

The money is in the U.K. And like Hearn mentioned neither are known to the masses in America so it makes sense to have the fight in Britain atm.

[JRB123]

all the Wilder teabaggers on here saying this is positioning to not take the fight.. get a ****ing grip.

This article is absolute common sense, there is no ****ing way that wilder or Parker deserve even split with AJ. Neither of them bring in a shred of the financial and commercial clout that Anthony Joshua does.

Deontay wilder gets 5 mil max, and he should be ****ing glad of it.

Shoot, Haymon and DiBella or whoever promotes Wilder's fights depending on where it is won't put up 5 million for Wilder to fight anyone, including AJ. Look at the purses that he has got up to this point and the highest one that he would have got was for the Povetkin fight which Ryabinsky put up.

Fact is that AJ is the bigger draw no matter where either fighter goes.

[JRB123]

That is your opinion. Deontay is the American and more popular here - whether you want to accept that or not. It is that simple. UK fans cannot eat their cake and have it. I am certain Al Haymon will do his best to ensure Wilder gets his fair share. I don't see how what I listed is unfair to AJ.

Why should he get more or equal share in the US if he is not popular here and the fight wont be hosted here? Even if it is hosted here, it should be 50/50 at best for him. He is not known here. Also, if a heavyweight unification happens, many Americans will show up. So, let's not act like AJ's fans are the ones going to be there the most.

I disagree with this.

Wilder couldn't draw a majority crowd anywhere outside of Alabama. He didn't do it in the fight at the Barclays against Szpilka.

Best believe that if AJ-Wilder is in the US that any venue that holds it will be packed with AJ fans much more than Wilder fans.

[Ray*]

Why would they expect 50-50? Am sure they would never ask for anything close to that.

[W1LL]

Deontay Wilder is refusing to take any challenges because he doesn't want to risk the Anthony Joshua payday. If Matchroom offer to double Wilder's biggest payday, that's probably still under $7-8m. AJ on the other hand is apparently on £20m/$26.4m.