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  • turnedup
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    #101
    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
    Its Cotto's last fight. Would GBP make more money from a Cotto-Garcia fight or a Cotto-Ali fight? Hell, are they gonna make any money at all from Cotto-Ali? So you possibly lose money on a Cotto-Ali fight. Cotto retires, Ali has another loss on his record now you have to build him up again like they had to after his loss to Vargas.

    Cotto-Garcia makes money. Cotto retires. Mikey fights your other fighter Linares and you make more money. Or maybe it's such a good fight and does so well Cotto comes back for the rematch





    Garcia was able to sit out for 3 years without financial problems. I'd say he's pretty smart with his money. You also don't know what type of deal GBP offered him so you aren't in position to say if it was better or not
    GBP is playing with house money here cuz..they have no long term prospect with Cotto it being his last fight and all. They make their cut no matter what. What Puerto Rican within a 100 mile radius of the location and loves boxing isn't going to at least try and buy a ticket? Garcia is a great fighter but we can't consider him a draw, Ali is going to put the same amount of azzes in seats as Garcia would've because people ain't there to see either of them, they will show up to see Cotto one last time.

    You are right about us not knowing the details of the contract..100% right on that but ask yourself...what remaining fighters get Garcia the exposure a Cotto fight gets him? Sometimes you have to eat the sandwich in front of you and stop worrying about smelling steak in the air.

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    • Scipio2009
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      #102
      Except that this is supposed to be Miguel Cotto's last fight.

      Originally posted by LOCOMEX89
      I'm usually always pro boxer but in this case it's a two way street. Mikey Garcia can't honestly expect a company to pay him 2 million dollars for one fight and not expect to have options on him. That's not realistic.

      Mikey could have played this beautifully. You fight Cotto for 2 million plus it could have been his Pay Per View debut then parlayed that into 7 figure pay days by fighting Linares and Lucas. Instead he wanted it to be his way or no way, and with a chance like this he went another direction.

      Golden Boy Promotions and Mikey Garcia need each other but now things just got even more complicated. It will be very interesting to see how Linares vs Garcia negotiations go. That fight looks like it's going down the drain.
      In what world would Mikey Garcia let Cotto's expiring deal put him back into a situation no different than what he had with Top Rank?

      The Linares negotiations will go a rather simple way; it's a mandatory defense, with Mikey Garcia having a TV partner already in hand. If Linares walks, Mikey gets the WBC belt outright and likely moves into the EasterJr fight in it's place.

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      • Motorcity Cobra
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        #103
        Originally posted by turnedup
        GBP is playing with house money here cuz..they have no long term prospect with Cotto it being his last fight and all. They make their cut no matter what. What Puerto Rican within a 100 mile radius of the location and loves boxing isn't going to at least try and buy a ticket? Garcia is a great fighter but we can't consider him a draw, Ali is going to put the same amount of azzes in seats as Garcia would've because people ain't there to see either of them, they will show up to see Cotto one last time.

        You are right about us not knowing the details of the contract..100% right on that but ask yourself...what remaining fighters get Garcia the exposure a Cotto fight gets him? Sometimes you have to eat the sandwich in front of you and stop worrying about smelling steak in the air.
        You are crazy if you think Cotto-Ali will make anywhere near the amount of money as Garcia-Cotto. Garcia just put 16k in the seats in Brooklyn. Cotto-Garia is a guaranteed sellout. Cotto-Ali will be a sell out with $10 tickets. Depending on strictly the PR audience for his last fight is a mistake with the suffering going on in PR now. People are sending money back to their family. And some of their family has moved here and their dollars are stretched helping their family. Cotto-Garcia is a crossover fight. Cotto-Ali won't even make a profit. Cotto is done after this fight. Why not take Garcia w/o signing a contract and make a profit? They'd rather send Cotto off losing money? ****** on GB to turn down this fight. I could understand if they had something else for Cotto down the line. But he's done after this. If he wants Garcia they should give him Garcia. He's being sent off against Ali in a joke of a fight.

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        • Scipio2009
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          #104
          Originally posted by JQside
          He's going to have to deal with GBP in the Linares fight, which is not exactly that big of a fight.

          He's with Showtime now. He's going to have to focus on getting fights from this network.
          Showtime wants Mikey Garcia, and Showtime is already interested in the fight (even if it'd mean Oscar having some involvement). You add that the fight is a mandatory defense, and the only thing really blocking things would be if Golden Boy convinces Linares to give up the belt.

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            #105
            Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
            You are crazy if you think Cotto-Ali will make anywhere near the amount of money as Garcia-Cotto. Garcia just put 16k in the seats in Brooklyn. Cotto-Garia is a guaranteed sellout. Cotto-Ali will be a sell out with $10 tickets. Depending on strictly the PR audience for his last fight is a mistake with the suffering going on in PR now. People are sending money back to their family. And some of their family has moved here and their dollars are stretched helping their family. Cotto-Garcia is a crossover fight. Cotto-Ali won't even make a profit. Cotto is done after this fight. Why not take Garcia w/o signing a contract and make a profit? They'd rather send Cotto off losing money? ****** on GB to turn down this fight. I could understand if they had something else for Cotto down the line. But he's done after this. If he wants Garcia they should give him Garcia. He's being sent off against Ali in a joke of a fight.
            First of all the Broner Garcia fight had a high attendance mainly because of Broner. Before that Garcia fought on the undercard of santa cruz frampton 2 so the broner fight was the first fight he co headlined in over 3 years.

            Second of all Cotto is a huge star in Nyc and will sell out pretty much regardless of who he fights. In addition Ali is from Nyc so naturally that is where his fanbase is. Your crazy to think Cotto Garcia would be a crossover fight, it wouldn't even be a ppv fight lol. Im sure it would do a little better than Cotto Ali but Cotto will still sell in Nyc and Hbo will still pay multimillion dollar license fee whether he fights Ali or Garcia.

            Lastly why would Golden Boy give Mikey Garcia this big fight and this kind of exposure? What do they gain from it? They have their own fighters that need fights and money and exposure. If they gave it to Garcia and he wins he goes on to bigger fights and golden boy doesn't benefit at all. Giving the fight to Ali not only gives a Golden boy fighter money and exposure, but also a chance to get bigger fights afterwards if he does well. Mikey just wants the freedom to cherry pick whatever fighter he wants and not have to answer to a promoter which is why he ran from Top Rank when they offered him a million dollars to fight Gamboa 3 years ago. My question is why would they allow Mikey to potentially use them as a stepping stone when he's offering nothing in return? He always calls out big names and then ends up fighting guys he knows he can beat. He's trying to use the Mayweather blueprint before He's Even earned his bones by fighting the tough fights like mayweather did. This is not even mentioning the fact that hes only fought once at 140, once at 135, and a Catchweight at 138 and the rest of his career was spent at 130 and now He's claiming he would go all the way up to 154 to fight Cotto. I guarantee he had no intention of taking this fight in the first place, like I said he always calls out the big names and ends up cherry picking which is why he wanted to run from top rank. Sadam Ali has fought at 147 his whole career and its a no brainer why Golden Boy would give him the fight over Garcia

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            • BigStomps
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              #106
              Originally posted by Scipio2009
              Showtime wants Mikey vs Linares (with Mikey running the show of course), Showtime will happily pay for Mikey-EasterJr, and Crawford's move out of the division opens up opportunities at 140lbs for Mikey as well (Figueroa Jr for the vacant WBA belt would be a great fight, among others).

              All of which he's getting without a promoter in his business. What are you talking about?
              Did you forget that Linares is with golden boy promotions?? If that fight happens in sure Oscar will want it on HBO.
              And Mikey-Easter and Mikey-Figeroa ain't nothing to brag about. Decent Fights but nothing high profile.
              Easter is overrated and Figueroa has fought once in three years so like I said.. Nothing to brag about.

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              • glenn mcrory
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                #107
                Originally posted by jjsmyth87
                First of all the Broner Garcia fight had a high attendance mainly because of Broner. Before that Garcia fought on the undercard of santa cruz frampton 2 so the broner fight was the first fight he co headlined in over 3 years.

                Second of all Cotto is a huge star in Nyc and will sell out pretty much regardless of who he fights. In addition Ali is from Nyc so naturally that is where his fanbase is. Your crazy to think Cotto Garcia would be a crossover fight, it wouldn't even be a ppv fight lol. Im sure it would do a little better than Cotto Ali but Cotto will still sell in Nyc and Hbo will still pay multimillion dollar license fee whether he fights Ali or Garcia.

                Lastly why would Golden Boy give Mikey Garcia this big fight and this kind of exposure? What do they gain from it? They have their own fighters that need fights and money and exposure. If they gave it to Garcia and he wins he goes on to bigger fights and golden boy doesn't benefit at all. Giving the fight to Ali not only gives a Golden boy fighter money and exposure, but also a chance to get bigger fights afterwards if he does well. Mikey just wants the freedom to cherry pick whatever fighter he wants and not have to answer to a promoter which is why he ran from Top Rank when they offered him a million dollars to fight Gamboa 3 years ago. My question is why would they allow Mikey to potentially use them as a stepping stone when he's offering nothing in return? He always calls out big names and then ends up fighting guys he knows he can beat. He's trying to use the Mayweather blueprint before He's Even earned his bones by fighting the tough fights like mayweather did. This is not even mentioning the fact that hes only fought once at 140, once at 135, and a Catchweight at 138 and the rest of his career was spent at 130 and now He's claiming he would go all the way up to 154 to fight Cotto. I guarantee he had no intention of taking this fight in the first place, like I said he always calls out the big names and ends up cherry picking which is why he wanted to run from top rank. Sadam Ali has fought at 147 his whole career and its a no brainer why Golden Boy would give him the fight over Garcia
                Man, the haterade is strong with this one.
                Garcia scared of Cotto? Gamboa?:hilarious::hilarious:
                First you act like he is cherrypicking Cotto, then you say him claiming to go up to 154 to is bull**** like moving up that much to fight the same guy is a big deal and something hes scared of. So which is it? He wanted to pick a certain cherrypick, but was too scared to go up 2/3 weightclasses for said cherrypick?
                You better hope Garcia doesnt get the fights he wants. Or you'll be shutting up your fat hater mouth real fast.

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                • boxingitis
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by McNulty
                  Because they're a company open for business you fůcktard dumshít.

                  You're not doing better on your own and you'll continue to do shít on your own. You're not Mayweather.

                  I get it, Garcia wants money --- but thats all him and his camp talk about...money money money.

                  You need blue chip promoters to broker big fight deals. Ward never could have gotten Kovaquit w/o it. Super dumb.
                  Why didn't they offer thay to GGG. Fight Canelo and sign with GB or any other fighter who fights a Golden Boy fighter.

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                  • MisanthropicNY
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                    Because he's one of the best fighters in the world and can make for an attractive, desirable main event?

                    But that's not enough for these greedy promoter scumbags. They want to pay him for this fight and then use that as an excuse to own him for several fights afterwards.
                    Where were you complaining when Mayweather said he would only fight Pacquiao if he left Top Rank and gave Mayweather Promotions a few fights in order to land the Floyd fight? Fking hypocrite.

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                    • MisanthropicNY
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by jjsmyth87
                      First of all the Broner Garcia fight had a high attendance mainly because of Broner. Before that Garcia fought on the undercard of santa cruz frampton 2 so the broner fight was the first fight he co headlined in over 3 years.

                      Second of all Cotto is a huge star in Nyc and will sell out pretty much regardless of who he fights. In addition Ali is from Nyc so naturally that is where his fanbase is. Your crazy to think Cotto Garcia would be a crossover fight, it wouldn't even be a ppv fight lol. Im sure it would do a little better than Cotto Ali but Cotto will still sell in Nyc and Hbo will still pay multimillion dollar license fee whether he fights Ali or Garcia.

                      Lastly why would Golden Boy give Mikey Garcia this big fight and this kind of exposure? What do they gain from it? They have their own fighters that need fights and money and exposure. If they gave it to Garcia and he wins he goes on to bigger fights and golden boy doesn't benefit at all. Giving the fight to Ali not only gives a Golden boy fighter money and exposure, but also a chance to get bigger fights afterwards if he does well. Mikey just wants the freedom to cherry pick whatever fighter he wants and not have to answer to a promoter which is why he ran from Top Rank when they offered him a million dollars to fight Gamboa 3 years ago. My question is why would they allow Mikey to potentially use them as a stepping stone when he's offering nothing in return? He always calls out big names and then ends up fighting guys he knows he can beat. He's trying to use the Mayweather blueprint before He's Even earned his bones by fighting the tough fights like mayweather did. This is not even mentioning the fact that hes only fought once at 140, once at 135, and a Catchweight at 138 and the rest of his career was spent at 130 and now He's claiming he would go all the way up to 154 to fight Cotto. I guarantee he had no intention of taking this fight in the first place, like I said he always calls out the big names and ends up cherry picking which is why he wanted to run from top rank. Sadam Ali has fought at 147 his whole career and its a no brainer why Golden Boy would give him the fight over Garcia
                      Idiot actually made the case for having Ali over Garcia as Cotto's last fight...

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