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Originally posted by travestyny View PostLIST ALL OF YOUR WITNESSES AND SPECIFICALLY WHAT THEY SAID ABOUT TUE MANIPULATION. I WANT TO SEE THIS WITH THEIR STATEMENTS!!! DO IT!
I'm going to post the Tue's for Rupp. Be sure that you let me know about the whopping dosages that you see, you hear?
DEFLECTION!!!!! WHAT DOES A GENERAL STATEMENT LIKE THIS HAVE TO DO WITH PROOF THAT SALAZAR MANIPULATED THE TUE PROCESS FOR RUPP OR FOR ANY OTHER ATHLETE???????? LMAOOOOOOOO!
YOU MORON. HE SAID HE DIDN'T REMEMBER ABOUT CHANGING THE PROCESS, WHICH FOR THE THIRD TIME, IS ALSO PROOF THAT HE DIDN'T GET TUES BECAUSE IF HE DID, THERE WOULD BE NO NEED TO INVESTIGATE WHETHER HE WAS GOING OVER 50ML OR WHETHER HE WAS TRYING TO AVOID THE TUE PROCESS BY GOING AT 50ML OR BELOW!!!!!!!!! WHY DO YOU KEEP DUCKING THIS, ADP02????? YOU'RE SO ****** THAT YOU KEEP RANTING ABOUT HIM NOT GOING 50ML OR BELOW, AND THEN YOU POST A QUOTATION ABOUT HIM CHANGING TO 50ML OR BELOW!!!!! ADMIT THAT YOU ARE WRONGGGGG!
DID THE WITNESSES COME FORWARD ABOUT HIM DOPING HIS ATHLETE OR ABOUT TUE'S? STOP DEFLECTING!!!!!! SHOW ME ALL OF THE STATEMENTS THE ATHLETES MADE ABOUT MANIPULATION OF THE TUE SYSTEM. SHOW IT!!!
USADA HAS ACCESS TO ALL OF THE TUE'S. WE HAVE SOME FOR RUPP. YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ASSUME HE MANIPULATED TUE'S WITH NO PROOF, YOU ****ING MORON! I THINK HE ALSO LISTED HOW MANY OF HIS ATHLETES GOT TUE'S AROUND THE TIME. I'LL SEE IF I CAN FIND THAT INFO.
WHO DID I BRING UP WAS INNOCENT? INNOCENT OF WHAT????? QUOTE ME AND I'LL SCHOOL YOU YET AGAIN!
YOU JUST POSTED THE SAME THING YOU ABSOLUTE MORON!!!! LMAOOOOOOO!
THEN TELL US WHAT THESE TUES WERE FOR SO WE CAN SEE IF THEY WERE LEGIT. SHOW US YOUR PROOF!
WHAT DOCUMENTS. POST THEM. HAVEN'T I BEEN ASKING YOU FOR DOCUMENTS? ALL YOU KEEP SAYING IS THAT PEOPLE SAID THIS AND THAT. LMAOOOOO. SHOW US THE PROOF!!!!!
WE AREN'T TALKING ABOUT PRESCRIPTIONS. STOP DEFLECTING!!!! WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TUE'S. CAN YOU POINT THEM OUT FOR US????
DEFLECTION!!!!!! THIS HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH PROOF THAT SALAZAR MANIPULATED THE TUE PROCESS!!!!
YOU HAVE BEEN GETTING THE SHlT KICKED OUT OF YOU OVER THIS, AND IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE. YOU WON'T EVEN POST YOUR INFORMATION UP. POST YOUR QUOTATIONS FROM ATHLETES ABOUT THEM MANIPULATING THE TUE PROCESS. ALL OF THEM.
AND GIVE ME THAT LINK. WHY ARE YOU STILL DUCKING THIS. YOU ARE LOOKING REAL BAD!
WTF! Why do you deflect!
This is about the TUE process being abused. You said no it cannot be and I said it can.
So that is why I bring up those points! It's all relevant!!! DEFLECTOR!
I cannot provide to you what all of the witnesses said but at least one of them said that Salazar coaches his athletes so that they can get TUEs! This happened in 2007 and 2011 as per the witness but another witness came forward!!!! You do not like that but you if you read the report, it is not a stretch that they tried to get TUEs that were not required!!!
As stated, Dr Brown is stated as provided meds that are not required to athletes ... now add 1 + 1 ...can you do that? :lo1:
Your comeback is what Salazar provided!
I pretty much answered your stuff DEFLECTO!
The IVs didn't exceed 50ml?
YOU WERE WRONG AND YOU CANNOT ADMIT IT.
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Originally posted by travestyny View PostHere is more from Salazar's Open Letter:
EXPLAIN ADP02. HE GOES ON RECORD SAYING THAT SINCE 2011 THERE HAVE ONLY BEEN 4 TUES....2 BY GALEN RUPP FOR ASTHMA, ONE FOR ASTHMA MEDICATION WHILE THE ATLETE WAS IN COLLEGE, AND ONE FOR PAIN MEDICATION IN A HOSPITAL EMERGENCY ROOM! ALL WERE FOR A ONE TIME USE FOR 3-5 DAY DURATION.
USADA REVIEWED THIS STATEMENT. WHY DIDN'T THEY STATE IT IS WRONG, ADP02. THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE TUES. EXPLAINNNNNNNN!!!!!!!
OR JUST ADMIT THAT YOU ARE WRONG. AND GIVE ME THAT LINK! I'VE ASKED ABOUT 50 TIMES NOW. STOP DUCKING!
I already provided a statement from USADA who says that Salazar contorts his statements. Salazar provided stats and USADA shot them down.
You believe Salazar not USADA!
Look bud, Salazar/Brown there is lots of proof that they would give meds that are not required. So stop it.
Secondly, from the Fancy Bear leak, Rupp and Farah who were both under Salazar had been reported to have "su****ious" samples. The report stated "likely doping" .... but they didn't have enough to conclude so that is why this was never reported.
So STOP with Salazar provided "proof" NOBODY is BUYING IT!!! NOT EVEN USADA!!!
Did Salazar bring this up?Maybe he doesn't remember? Maybe the official doesn't remember? Maybe you didn't remember to say that YOU WERE WRONG!!!
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Originally posted by ADP02 View Post1) WRONG!!!
a) You believe Salazar is all that we got from that!
YOU EXPLAIN! LMAOOOOOOOO! And just for a point of clarification, USADA didn't accuse him of altering emails. They accused him of interpreting the answers given in emails the way that he would like. That was regarding emails to the TUE specialist in his attempt to AVOID THE TUE PROCESS, not about his email to this doctor who backs him up that there was no IV, which your star witness claimed!
Originally posted by ADP02 View Postb) The guy said "I do not remember". Does that mean that it didn't happen? RESPOND DEFLECTOR!!!
HE IS TALKING ABOUT IF HE CHANGED THE IV PROTOCOL TO BE LESS THAN 50ML. HE DOESN'T WANT TO ADMIT TO CHANGING IT BECAUSE THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY ABOVE 50ML WHICH WOULD BE AGAINST WADA RULES. IF HE CHANGED IT TO 50ML TO AVOID THE TUE PROCESS, ISN'T THAT WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING AND YOU'VE BEEN SAYING I WAS WRONG ABOUT IT? LMAOOOOOOO.
YOU IDIOT!!!!!
Originally posted by ADP02 View Postc) When Salazar was questioned and he said "I DO NOT REMEMBER", was that the truth? See the problem?
LET ME MAKE THIS EVEN MORE CLEAR. IF HE IS LYING, IT STILL SHOWS THAT HE DIDN'T GET A TUE, SO IF THERE WAS NO TUE, THERE IS NOTHING TO MANIPULATE YOU TWAT! LMAOOO!
Originally posted by ADP02 View Postd) Dr Brown: Articles can be found where he provides meds to athletes that does not require. KABOOOOOOM!
Originally posted by ADP02 View Poste) DEFLECTOR, I got quotes by people saying that the TUE process can be ABUSED!!!
Originally posted by ADP02 View Post2) Please point to where USADA said that there were no TUEs.
Originally posted by ADP02 View Post3) DEFLECTO: Did you not say that the athletes were all given < 50ml so that is why TUEs were not required?
ADMIT THAT YOU WERE WRONG!!!
Originally posted by ADP02 View PostHere is Salazar when questioned by USADA - Remember that USADA already knew that Salazar knew but Salazar said this:
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Q In fact, sir, you knew that the procedure needed to be changed from
Steve Magness’s procedure, after you got this email from Matt Fedoruk,
because Mr. Magness had received more than 50 milliliters, correct?
A I don’t remember that, that he ever got, I don’t remember him ever getting, I don’t remember him ever telling me, or Dr. Brown telling me, that
they were going to do anything that was not following the WADA and USADA rules.
Q Then why, sir, did you have to change the protocol for the IV?
MR. COLLINS: Objection. He never said he changed the protocol.
Q Didn’t you understand that the IV protocol was changed after
December 6th by Dr. Brown, by Steve Magness –
MR. COLLINS: Objection.
Q – and I believe possibly others.
MR. COLLINS: Asked and answered.
A I don’t remember that.
Q You don’t remember that?
A No. I don’t remember that there was some change.
WHY DO YOU THINK THAT THEY ARE DISCUSSING CHANGING THE IV PROTOCOL TO BE AT OR BELOW 50ML YOU ABSOLUTE MORON? LEARN HOW TO COMPREHEND WHAT YOU ARE READING!!!!!
POST YOUR WITNESS STATEMENTS ABOUT THE TUE PROCESS BEING MANIPULATED, ADP02.
AND GIVE ME THE LINK ABOUT THE PARTIAL SAMPLE SEALED IN THE A BOTTLE. WE'RE APPROACHING REQUEST #100 FOR THIS!!!!Last edited by travestyny; 11-18-2017, 10:07 PM.
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Originally posted by ADP02 View PostI already provided a statement from USADA who says that Salazar contorts his statements. Salazar provided stats and USADA shot them down.
You believe Salazar not USADA!
Originally posted by ADP02 View PostLook bud,
Originally posted by ADP02 View PostSalazar/Brown there is lots of proof that they would give meds that are not required. So stop it.
Originally posted by ADP02 View PostSecondly, from the Fancy Bear leak, Rupp and Farah who were both under Salazar had been reported to have "su****ious" samples. The report stated "likely doping" .... but they didn't have enough to conclude so that is why this was never reported.
Originally posted by ADP02 View PostSo STOP with Salazar provided "proof" NOBODY is BUYING IT!!! NOT EVEN USADA!!!
Originally posted by ADP02 View PostDid Salazar bring this up?Maybe he doesn't remember? Maybe the official doesn't remember? Maybe you didn't remember to say that YOU WERE WRONG!!!
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PROOF BlTCH. YOU ARE SQUIRMING AND DEFLECTING HARDDDDDDDDD. WHY DID KARA GOUCHER SAY THAT RUPP GOT A TUE FOR AN IV IN DAEGU????????? WAS SHE PROVEN WRONG? YES OR NO?
I BET YOU WON'T ANSWERRRRRRRRRR!!!!
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More proof that Salazar didn't manipulate the TUE process.
Here are the TUE's that were revealed from the Fancy Bears Hack:
Wow. Look at that whopping dosage. 4mg, 6 times for a one week time period. 4mg is the equivalent of 1 pill
Forms and strengths
Generic: methylprednisolone
Form: Oral tablet
Strengths: 4 mg, 8 mg, 16 mg, 32 mg
Here is the other TUE:
1 puff 2 times a day. Oh, he soooo manipulated the TUE process.
2 puffs as needed. LMAO. Do some ****ing research. Maybe he went crazy sucking in Salbutamol, right? lol.
A. Even your TUE specialist whom you like to refer to over and over regarding the Mayweather case in which he says he has no information on the case, said that asthma medication when inhaled is not performance enhancing because YOU CAN'T OPEN OUR AIRWAYS ANY MORE THAN ALL THE WAY, WHICH IS THE NORMAL STATE OF YOUR AIRWAY PASSAGES. Do you need to go back and listen to that podcast?
B. The reason that they now only allow about 1000ng/ml to be found in your urine is because when it's taken ORALLY, it can have performance enhancing properties. Even if an athlete inhales the maximum that they allow, I think 1600mcg, it is possible but unlikely that it will give 1000ng in your urine.
The contrast between the effects of the prohibited oral and the permitted inhaled salbutamol made it imperative to be able to distinguish administration by these two routes. Studies undertaken to determine this used 1600 μg of inhaled salbutamol over 24 h with 800 μg being administered in the last 4 h and the urinary concentration that achieved such a distinction was 1000 ng⋅mL−1 [13]. This is the basis of WADA advising that the presence of a concentration of salbutamol in the urine in excess of 1000 ng⋅mL−1 is presumed not to be the result of the the****utic use of the drug, but is considered to be an adverse an AAF[4].
Although if inhaled over a 24 h period, the maximum allowable dose (1600 μg) should, in most persons and in most instances, not result in the urinary threshold being exceeded, it may do so and has on several occasions [8].
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4933613/
C. If you inhale too much of it, you are susceptible to side effects such as being tremulous and getting headaches. Both information out there confirms this, BUT ALSO THE TUE SPECIALIST THAT YOU KEEP REFERRING TO STATES THIS AS WELL. GO LISTEN TO IT!
So um....what proof do you have that the TUE process was manipulated??? I'm still waiting!
1. LIST ALL OF YOUR WITNESSES WITH THEIR EXACT MENTION OF THE TUE PROCESS BEING MANIPULATED.
2. GIVE ME THE LINK FOR THE PARTIAL SAMPLE IN THE A VESSEL. HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I ASKED, ADP02. WHY DON'T YOU WANT TO GIVE ME THIS LINK? IS SOMETHING WRONG?
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Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
Watch this 2 min video. Pay close attention. This is the type of shlt you do......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu_LK_iEFE8
Got it? Its bull**** right? Stop doing that shlt.
WOWWWWW. These ****ing journalists, man. That's ****ing ridiculous.
And that's exactly what that clown ADP02 does. He won't even hit me with a link that I've asked for at least 20 times! I wonder what he is trying to hide this time
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Originally posted by travestyny View PostIf you have a TUE, it doesn't matter where you are as long as it is medically justified, you dope.
You have no proof that he didn't meet the criteria for a TUE.
Of course a doctor signed off because he applied for a TUE.
If Floyd knew when he was being tested, he wouldn't need a TUE.
Thanks for playing
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Originally posted by Shape up View PostFluid said it was dehydration, nothing more, drinking water is the therapudic alternative so he fails, why would a paramedic be called for an IV if a doctor was there, so many holes in the fantasy, if usada was willing to break WADA rules for fluid then what else were they willing to do
1. Just because you are capable of drinking water doesn't mean that it is the most appropriate action.
2. The paramedic administered the IV. The physician is who fills out the TUE application.
3. You still need to explain why USADA would make a paper trail for this instead of just telling "Fluid" when they were coming so that no TUE would be necessary.
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Originally posted by ADP02 View PostSecondly, from the Fancy Bear leak, Rupp and Farah who were both under Salazar had been reported to have "su****ious" samples.
GASP!!!! WHAT DO YOU KNOW???? THERE ARE TUE'S RELEASED FOR FARAH. AND ALSO...THERE IS AN IV!!!!!!!!! GOOD JOB!!!!
MAYBE SALAZAR COACHED HIM TO GET THAT IV.....THAT HE TOOK WHEN HE WAS AIRLIFTED TO A HOSPITAL...WITH FEAR THAT HE WAS SUFFERING FROM A HEART ATTACK! OOPS!!!!!
The Somalia-born British runner had been running at altitude before he fainted in the bathroom of a Utah apartment two years ago. Farah was subsequently airlifted to hospital in Salt Lake City, where he was placed on a morphine drip.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/g...-a7316681.html
Mo Farah's medical history backed up after latest leak by Russian hackers
As well as vowing to sack the American if found guilty, Farah disclosed his TUE history, initially stating he had been granted only one – after he collapsed in a Utah apartment in 2014 – before confirming he had been given another six years earlier for what his camp described last night as an “anti-inflammatory treatment to an injury”.
The files show the man who became Britain’s most successful track-and-field Olympian in Rio by retaining his 5,000 metres and 10,000m titles was given morphine, Vicodin and an intravenous saline solution in July 2014 while in hospital recovering from what was initially feared to have been a heart attack.
They also show another backdated TUE in 2008 for Triamcinolone, the same substance that has led to unprecedented scrutiny on Sir Bradley Wiggins. However, unlike in the case of Wiggins, the method by which Farah was allowed to take Triamcinolone is no longer banned in or out of competition.
The use of the same substance by Farah through an injection into his joints was prohibited eight years ago but Wada removed the method from the banned list in 2011 after deciding there was insufficient evidence it had a performance-enhancing effect.
AGAIN, SALAZAR PRESENTING FACTS THAT HAVE BEEN BACKED UP BY FANCY BEARS!!!!!
Moreover, TUEs are a rare occurrence in the Oregon Project. We currently have 9 athletes in the Oregon Project. Since 2011, those athletes have had a grand total of 4 TUEs all of which were for a one-time use of a 3-5 day duration. Six Oregon Project athletes have not had a single TUE during that time period. One athlete received a TUE for prednisone while still in college. Another received a TUE for pain medication that was provided as part of treatment received in a hospital emergency room. And, as I noted above, Galen has had two TUEs for prednisone. One in 2011 which he did not use and another in February 2012. He has not had any since.
From these numbers it is clear that the Oregon Project is not manipulating the TUE process in any way.
SO SINCE 2011, THERE WERE ONLY 4 TUEs.- 2 By Galen Rupp for Asthma.
- 1 By Mo Farah in the hospital.
- 1 By an athlete in college for Asthma.
BY THE WAY, HERE IS PROOF THAT FANCY BEARS HAD ACCESS TO DOCUMENTS DATING BACK TO 2007.
STILL WAITING FOR YOU TO ADMIT THAT YOU WERE WRONG...AND GIVE ME THAT LINK!!!Last edited by travestyny; 11-18-2017, 11:44 PM.
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