Here's Where All The Floyd Cheat Theories Fail

[travestyny]

I have several witnesses that state that Salazar coached his athletes on how to get the TUEs.

All you have are statements from someone who is not credible!

We do not have all the TUEs from all of his athletes. Do you?

So what you are saying is that Salazar did everything under the sun but he would never coach his athletes to get a TUE that is not required?

In USADA's ongoing investigation, it concludes that the drugs are used for performance enhancing reasons. The doses would be increased easily!!!






Here are more examples BY the way:

USADA said that many of the athletes used asthma related meds










So like I said, YOU WERE WRONG!!!



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LMAOOOOOO. YOU STILL GOT NOTHING. LOOK AT YOU SQUIRM, BlTCH. I LOVE THAT THIS HAPPENED TO YOU. YOU CAN'T ADMIT THAT YOU ARE WRONGGGGGGG!!!!!! LMAOOOOOO.



BY THE WAY:

As asthma is so common in Olympic athletes and because asthma medication has been proven not to be performance enhancing, WADA eliminated the requirement for TUEs for asthma medication in 2010.

WHERE WERE THESE TUE'S THAT WERE MANIPULATED, ADP02!!! WHERE. I DON'T ONLY HAVE STATEMENTS FROM SALAZAR. I HAVE EMAILS. I HAVE TUE'S. I HAVE USADA WHO HAS ACCESS TO ALLLLLLLLLLLLL TUE DOCUMENTS AND THEY DON'T DENY SALAZAR'S STATEMENTS. LMAOOOOO


WHERE IS THAT LINK, PUNK. I'M READY TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT POINT. YOU WERE WRONGGGGG!!!!!!

[travestyny]

He also said he had emails stating that USADA was OK with the IV process (said this for several reasons) ... USADA is still laughing!

1. DID HE SHOW THEM. I HAVE THE ACTUAL EMAILS.

2. DOESN'T THIS PROVE THAT HE WAS AVOIDING THE TUE PROCESS

Again, Salazar is not a reliable source. USADA proved that he will show you ONLY what he wants to show you!!!




You are getting stuff from the cheats and presenting them as facts!

BUT

When USADA questions Salazar what does he say?
I do not remember this that or anything!

AGAIN, I HAVE THE ACTUAL DOCUMENTS. YOU HAVE ONLY THE WORD OF A WITNESS WHOM YOU ADMIT WAS PROVEN WRONG!

Another point, you brought up that they are innocent? Salazar? DEFLECTOR!!!
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I SAID WHO WAS INNOCENT???????? AGAIN, YOU ARE MIXING YOURSELF UP, YOU MORON. I NEVER GAVE AN OPINION ON IF HE DOPED HIS ATHLETES. ALL EVIDENCE POINT TO HIM NOT MANIPULATING THE TUE PROCESS, BUT AVOIDING IT. THE PROOF IS IN YOUR FACE BUT YOU CAN'T HANDLE IT!!!

[travestyny]

He also said he had emails stating that USADA was OK with the IV process (said this for several reasons) ... USADA is still laughing!


Again, Salazar is not a reliable source. USADA proved that he will show you ONLY what he wants to show you!!!




You are getting stuff from the cheats and presenting them as facts!

BUT

When USADA questions Salazar what does he say?
I do not remember this that or anything!






Another point, you brought up that they are innocent? Salazar? DEFLECTOR!!!


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BY THE WAY, THIS RESPONSE WAS A HUGE DEFLECTION, DEFLECTOR!!!!!


1. Explain why there is an email from the USATF TEAM DOCTOR that says there was absolutely no recollection of an IV in Daegu, when your witness said this happened.

2. Explain why USADA never reavealed that Salazar was lying about Rupp NEVER having a TUE for an IV.

3. Explain why Fancy Bears found no evidence of a TUE for an IV.

YOU DEFLECTED FROM ALL OF THIS!

this is your proof????

Q In fact, sir, you knew that the procedure needed to be changed from
Steve Magness’s procedure, after you got this email from Matt Fedoruk,
because Mr. Magness had received more than 50 milliliters, correct?

A I don’t remember that, that he ever got, I don’t remember him ever getting, I don’t remember him ever telling me, or Dr. Brown telling me, that
they were going to do anything that was not following the WADA and USADA rules.


Q Then why, sir, did you have to change the protocol for the IV?
MR. COLLINS: Objection. He never said he changed the protocol.

Q Didn’t you understand that the IV protocol was changed after
December 6th by Dr. Brown, by Steve Magness –
MR. COLLINS: Objection.

Q – and I believe possibly others.
MR. COLLINS: Asked and answered.
A I don’t remember that.

Q You don’t remember that?

A No. I don’t remember that there was some change.

HIM SAYING THAT HE DOESN'T REMEMBER WHETHER OR NOT HE CHANGED A PROCEDURE, WHICH PROVES THEY WERE DISCUSSING ADJUSTING THE PROCEDURE, CHANGING IT TO 50ML, TO TRY TO AVOID THE TUE PROCESS!!!!!!!!


THE SECTION THAT YOU GOT THIS SNIPPET FROM SAYS IT EXPLICITLY!!!!!

Ritzenhein’s understanding from conversations with Salazar that the infusion protocol would be changed to conform to the requirements of the WADA 50 mL limit,

YOU JUST GAVE EVIDENCE THAT SALAZAR WANTED TO AVOID THE TUE PROCESS!!!!

[koolkc107]

This is a good example of how unintelligent you are, criteria for a TUE, that is the heading for the rule yet your still arguing, retro TUEs and TUEs have the same requirements, there are some instances where retro TUEs aren't allowed to be issued, homevisits, IV boutiques etc, but here you are arguing with the requirements, your an imbecile

What lack of intellect is indicated when someone is told the truth numerous times and is still unable to accept it?

Floyd met some or all of the 4 criteria (situations) for a retroactive TUE.

This means arguments about if he was dehydrated, if it was an emergency, why didn't he go to a hospital, and a host of others are MOOT.

As Travestyny has recently broken down (as have I prior, and DoSumpthin prior and others who have commented have prior) Floyd met some or all of the conditions for a retroactive TUE to be submitted and he only had to meet one.

The TUEC which reviewed his case applied the criteria for a normal TUE in the WADA code and found Mayweather's application sufficient.

This means that more qualified personnel than message board posters using an ANONYMOUS application determined the WADA code for TUEs was satified and they granted a TUE.

YOU'RE DONE.

YOU'VE BEEN DONE FOR A LONG TIME NOW.

EVERYONE CAN SEE IT BUT YOU, SO...

FAIL

I just need you to answer one truthfully and you seem to have a problem doing so.

DID YOU OR DID YOU NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY IN MAY 2015 WHEN KEVIN IOLE REPORTED THE IVs AND THE RETROACTIVE TUE?

[koolkc107]

DEFLECTO!!!
Actually there are 2 problems ... maybe 3


None of those 4 meets Floyd's situation.

Emergency?
Paramedic tends to rush patients to a hospital not stay with them for an hour or so at his mansion!! and they would not be providing solutions with an "assortment" of "vitamins"!!! WTF!!!

This is your opinion and clearly your scope of experience is limited. I grew up in situations where only about half the time when an ambulance was called did the person wind up going to the hospital. If you had a close relative who suffered from a chronic illness, you might know what I mean.

Unless it's one of those services that provide solely IVs to people with hangovers in VEGAS but you do NOT CALL THEM FOR EMERGENCIES!!! They even state that they are not for handling severe dehydration (emergency cases)

An emergency is only one of the four situations. So even if there was no emergency (and none of us KNOW for sure so this option is still possible) it is clear Floyd's situation matched on or all of the other three. Therefore, any "he cheated" arguments that posit theories that cannot take into account ALL FOUR of those situations are MOOT.

Exceptional Circumstance?
Floyd lost nothing so he had to gain nothing so that means that he was not even dehydrated after he drank adequately!!!

There was NOTHING exceptional in Floyd's case unless you mean that it was exceptional circumstance in that Floyd was fine and he still got 2 BANNED IVs ...

As Travestyny just pointed out, one example of an exceptional circumstance is that the fight was the next day. There are many other possible circumstances. WE JUST CANT BE SURE WHAT EXACTLY. We DO KNOW a DCO was in the room and allowed the IV, so that in and of itself leans heavily towards a special circumstance.

The other points are mainly for athletes who are either not registered in a testing pool BUT Floyd was

What pool was Floyd registered in? WADA 4.4.5 refers to individuals that are not part of an international body (Olympics?) or national body (AAU?) being allowed to apply for a retroactive TUE. It's clear to me Floyd falls under this one too.

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the other point is for someone who was NOT considered/defined as an "athlete" who became one and there was no time to get himself a TUE during that transition period. This is also along the lines of a reason for an Exceptional Circumstance .

This you just pulled out of your arse, but even if you were 100% right, Floyd fits the other part of this AND other situations.


and it's not just those 4 points.
There are specific criteria to be met to use an IV:
- Floyd was able to drink fluids adequately!!!
- Floyd drank and so he was NOT extremely dehydrated.

The TUEC applied the WADA criteria for normal TUEs using an anonymous application and found FOR Floyd.

MOOT



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All of your questions have been answered before numerous times in this thread.

FAIL

I just need you to answer one truthfully and you seem to have a problem doing so.

DID YOU OR DID YOU NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY IN MAY 2015 WHEN KEVIN IOLE REPORTED THE IVs AND THE RETROACTIVE TUE?

[koolkc107]

YES...NOW YOU ARE GETTING IT!!!!

It would be a lot easier to do, it would involve much fewer people who can rat, and best of all, there would be no documentation sitting around for people to discover!!!


I'm happy you agree now. So we done?

Of course he isn't done.

He will just shift to another topic that he has been previously stomped on and act like the same argument he is mentioning for the 20th time is brand new.

[travestyny]

Of course he isn't done.

He will just shift to another topic that he has been previously stomped on and act like the same argument he is mentioning for the 20th time is brand new.

Yep. He'll keep pretending he knows more about WADA and USADA rules than USADA. This dude needs to just let it go.

And ADP02 needs to stop dropping quotations if he is going to refuse to provide links. Something is fishy about that dude.


I think the funniest thing is that none of these guys will step up and answer your question about why they didn't respond to Iole's report about the IV!

[koolkc107]

Yep. He'll keep pretending he knows more about WADA and USADA rules than USADA. This dude needs to just let it go.

And ADP02 needs to stop dropping quotations if he is going to refuse to provide links. Something is fishy about that dude.


I think the funniest thing is that none of these guys will step up and answer your question about why they didn't respond to Iole's report about the IV!

I must admit that it hasn't stopped being absolutely hilarious to me yet.

And the lame excuses they try to "hit and run" into a post about why they won't answer are just as funny.

"Look at my post count", they cry.

Like the day they registered to this forum was the first day they saw a boxing match and got instantly hooked.

As I said, hilarious.

They know why they won't answer and so do we.

And it is a constant reminder of how truly scrote-less most of them are.

They don't even have the integrity to answer a simple question yet other posters following this thread must take what ever else they say seriously?

It's a checkmate and they don't even get it.

[Dosumpthin]

Omit? No you made it a big deal not me and deflected to it! That was a dumb statement from you to deflect to that as it is not the main point.


I already told you .... that I had that note for years since it was related to Floyd and Manny and it was USADA who brought it up. It was all relevant but didn't have the last statement!


and gain there is NOTHING WRONG with that last statement. Others have used the examples stated by Tygart including some known athletes ... but Floyd wouldn't have used the first example but could have used other ways.



and there are other ways too and Floyd had more than 10 minutes DEFLECTOR!!!


Again, you DEFLECTED to Whizzinator not the other parts of that statement nor the rest of Tygart's responses!


but now it is several times that I bring up that it's YOU that is DUCKING what the MAIN POINT made by USADA yet you talk about owning up!

It's time that YOU OWN UP and admit that there are ways as stated by Tygart!


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Whatever testing and procedures Tygart was referencing in that statement in 2011 - can not compare with the testing and procedures that consist of 5 years ABP longitudinal monitoring that Floyd took on May 1st. We know this because the testing and procedures Tygart was referring to can be beaten by using a "Whizzinator".





You ****ed up and got called on it.
What's really troublesome is how you are trying to rationalize a mistake instead of admitting you are wrong. As usual. "It was in my notes 5 years ago!"....."The first part could be Floyd".....**** You.


No you *******.

That's not how it works.

You can't omit part of a statement so it can fit your own context.

And that's all you do. WADA rules and code, NSAC interviews, WADA TUEC interview, FLOYD interview, Pacquiauo Injury all the way to Bob claiming they received a ****ing TUE from USADA - You leave out some vital information to fit your context.

**** you.






Watch this 2 min video. Pay close attention. This is the type of shlt you do......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu_LK_iEFE8

Got it? Its bull**** right? Stop doing that shlt.






Until then **** you. Once again.

I have given you ample opportunity to own up to your bull****.

**** everything you type.
**** your keyboard.
**** your monitor.
**** your mouse.

And most of all

**** your opinion.



Now answer KOOLS question or get the **** outtahere! POS

[ADP02]

All of your questions have been answered before numerous times in this thread.

FAIL

I just need you to answer one truthfully and you seem to have a problem doing so.

DID YOU OR DID YOU NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY IN MAY 2015 WHEN KEVIN IOLE REPORTED THE IVs AND THE RETROACTIVE TUE?

Travestyny is mad that he has been dethroned as the top DEFLECTOR!!!!


If you say that it has been responded numerous times then it would have been easy for you to respond but you DEFLECTED instead!


It really doesn't matter if we brought up or not in May 2015 this subject but as I stated, there were posts and threads about Floyd receiving these IVs.