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  • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
    Omit? No you made it a big deal not me and deflected to it! That was a dumb statement from you to deflect to that as it is not the main point.


    I already told you .... that I had that note for years since it was related to Floyd and Manny and it was USADA who brought it up. It was all relevant but didn't have the last statement!


    and gain there is NOTHING WRONG with that last statement. Others have used the examples stated by Tygart including some known athletes ... but Floyd wouldn't have used the first example but could have used other ways.



    and there are other ways too and Floyd had more than 10 minutes DEFLECTOR!!!


    Again, you DEFLECTED to Whizzinator not the other parts of that statement nor the rest of Tygart's responses!


    but now it is several times that I bring up that it's YOU that is DUCKING what the MAIN POINT made by USADA yet you talk about owning up!

    It's time that YOU OWN UP and admit that there are ways as stated by Tygart!


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    Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
    Whatever testing and procedures Tygart was referencing in that statement in 2011 - can not compare with the testing and procedures that consist of 5 years ABP longitudinal monitoring that Floyd took on May 1st. We know this because the testing and procedures Tygart was referring to can be beaten by using a "Whizzinator".





    You ****ed up and got called on it.
    What's really troublesome is how you are trying to rationalize a mistake instead of admitting you are wrong. As usual. "It was in my notes 5 years ago!"....."The first part could be Floyd".....**** You.


    No you *******.

    That's not how it works.

    You can't omit part of a statement so it can fit your own context.

    And that's all you do. WADA rules and code, NSAC interviews, WADA TUEC interview, FLOYD interview, Pacquiauo Injury all the way to Bob claiming they received a ****ing TUE from USADA - You leave out some vital information to fit your context.

    **** you.






    Watch this 2 min video. Pay close attention. This is the type of shlt you do......


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu_LK_iEFE8

    Got it? Its bull**** right? Stop doing that shlt.






    Until then **** you. Once again.

    I have given you ample opportunity to own up to your bull****.

    **** everything you type.
    **** your keyboard.
    **** your monitor.
    **** your mouse.

    And most of all

    **** your opinion.



    Now answer KOOLS question or get the **** outtahere! POS

    See, you DEFLECTED back to that. So if I had that line from the start it appears that you would be going right to the Whiz example and completed IGNORING everything else stated by Tygart!!!


    The video is exactly a great example of YOU!!!

    Even when ALL of the FACTS are shown to your face (including the last statement) YOU IGNORE everything and go to the one example where we would both agree that Floyd wouldn't do that (with a competent DCO)
    BUT
    Floyd had ample time (6+ hours) to do everything else!!!



    On that very same statement, if the athlete uses a catheter, what you got?

    If Floyd uses a masking agent and as you know, has ample time to do so, what you got?

    If Floyd is allowed to DELAY and then use an IV to dilute his sample, so what you got?


    Before you DEFLECT
    Also, the chemists are getting so good that some of the efficacy [of performance-enhancing drugs taken in small doses can leave [the bloodstream] in less than 90 minutes. So how do you deal with that? Test [athletes] in the warm-up area? That’s not going to happen.

    Floyd was allowed to delay the process for 6+ hours!


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    • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post

      It really doesn't matter if we brought up or not in May 2015 this subject but as I stated, there were posts and threads about Floyd receiving these IVs.
      FAIL

      Actually, it does matter.

      It matters a lot.

      See, Kevin Iole published the same info in May that Hauser did in September and his info was more accurate than Hauser's.

      So the same way you are in this thread over two and a half years later going on and on about conspiracy theories, you should at least be able to produce some proof from back then that you knew what time it was.

      If you can't, doesn't that make you at the very least a mouth breathing parrot that only worries about the "scandals" someone suggests you should?

      I mean Iole prints the info and says everything is all good and you don't react.

      Hauser prints the same thing 4 months later, gets half of it wrong, drags in things completely irrelevant to what happened, and all of a sudden you are outraged?

      Not a good look.

      So again, I must ask C-3PO

      DID YOU OR DID YOU NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY IN MAY 2015 WHEN KEVIN IOLE REPORTED THE IVs AND THE RETROACTIVE TUE?

      PS- You don't even have Ship out's lame excuse. You been here since 2010...

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      • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
        LMAOOOOOO. YOU STILL GOT NOTHING. LOOK AT YOU SQUIRM, BlTCH. I LOVE THAT THIS HAPPENED TO YOU. YOU CAN'T ADMIT THAT YOU ARE WRONGGGGGGG!!!!!! LMAOOOOOO.



        BY THE WAY:



        WHERE WERE THESE TUE'S THAT WERE MANIPULATED, ADP02!!! WHERE. I DON'T ONLY HAVE STATEMENTS FROM SALAZAR. I HAVE EMAILS. I HAVE TUE'S. I HAVE USADA WHO HAS ACCESS TO ALLLLLLLLLLLLL TUE DOCUMENTS AND THEY DON'T DENY SALAZAR'S STATEMENTS. LMAOOOOO


        WHERE IS THAT LINK, PUNK. I'M READY TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT POINT. YOU WERE WRONGGGGG!!!!!!
        Originally posted by travestyny View Post
        1. DID HE SHOW THEM. I HAVE THE ACTUAL EMAILS.

        2. DOESN'T THIS PROVE THAT HE WAS AVOIDING THE TUE PROCESS




        AGAIN, I HAVE THE ACTUAL DOCUMENTS. YOU HAVE ONLY THE WORD OF A WITNESS WHOM YOU ADMIT WAS PROVEN WRONG!







        I SAID WHO WAS INNOCENT???????? AGAIN, YOU ARE MIXING YOURSELF UP, YOU MORON. I NEVER GAVE AN OPINION ON IF HE DOPED HIS ATHLETES. ALL EVIDENCE POINT TO HIM NOT MANIPULATING THE TUE PROCESS, BUT AVOIDING IT. THE PROOF IS IN YOUR FACE BUT YOU CAN'T HANDLE IT!!!
        Originally posted by travestyny View Post
        BY THE WAY, THIS RESPONSE WAS A HUGE DEFLECTION, DEFLECTOR!!!!!


        1. Explain why there is an email from the USATF TEAM DOCTOR that says there was absolutely no recollection of an IV in Daegu, when your witness said this happened.

        2. Explain why USADA never reavealed that Salazar was lying about Rupp NEVER having a TUE for an IV.

        3. Explain why Fancy Bears found no evidence of a TUE for an IV.


        YOU DEFLECTED FROM ALL OF THIS!



        this is your proof????



        [CENTER]HIM SAYING THAT HE DOESN'T REMEMBER WHETHER OR NOT HE CHANGED A PROCEDURE, WHICH PROVES THEY WERE DISCUSSING ADJUSTING THE PROCEDURE, CHANGING IT TO 50ML, TO TRY TO AVOID THE TUE PROCESS!!!!!!!!


        THE SECTION THAT YOU GOT THIS SNIPPET FROM SAYS IT EXPLICITLY!!!!!


        YOU JUST GAVE EVIDENCE THAT SALAZAR WANTED TO AVOID THE TUE PROCESS!!!!


        Salazar, is that YOU?


        YOU have NOTHING!!!


        I have several witnesses.


        WRONG!
        They have not been removed completely. There is now a "threshold" with some asthma meds. So they CAN still be used to enhance performance especially when used in combination with other meds!

        and they still got the TUEs back then. Many athletes under Salazar got them! KABOOOM!


        and as I pointed out and you IGNORED, the statements from people who even defended the TUE process admit that the process can be beat!



        Man, I just realized, your comeback was 1 email but the witnesses had stated that Salazar coaching to get IVs happened on more that 1 occasion. Mentioned 2007 and 2011.
        Your response is Salazar providing an email stating "I do not recall"

        So was that email about 2007 and 2011 DEFLECTO?



        If someone tells you that they do not remember, do you think that means that it didn't happen? Like I said, is that you Salazar?


        There are plenty of witnesses that have come forward. Salazar tried to do his best to thwart the accusers but after a while you need to start telling yourself, how can they all be lying and Salazar be stating the truth when even USADA says that Salazar contorts the truth about his "proof" and his emails? LOL


        And as I keep on telling you, Salazar had plenty of athletes ... do you know of all of the TUEs of all those athletes? Witnesses say that the athletes were coached. Can you prove that to be wrong?


        Innocent? You brought that up. I ask you why? Who is innocent DEFLECTOR?


        Finally, do you not feel like a fool posting so often that I tried to deflect that Salazar/Brown and the athletes had IVs of less than 50ml and therefore didn't need a TUE?


        After I correct you: You keep on DEFLECTING instead of admitting that you were WRONG!!!




        So were YOU WRONG????



        The IVs exceeded 50ml!!!

        It is also clear that Dr. Brown and Alberto Salazar were aware that the infusion to
        Magness exceeded the 50 mL per hour limit.

        Dr. Brown’s alteration of medical records supports an inference that he was well aware that the infusion which he gave to Dathan Ritzenhein
        exceeded the WADA 50 mL limit.

        Galen Rupp’s
        As explained below, Galen Rupp’s claim that the first time he tried L-Carnitine was in mid-2011 was false. The evidence described below reflects Rupp’s L-carnitine use began in 2010 or earlier. Rupp’s claim that he did not get any infusion or injection
        of L-carnitine in 2011 is also seriously misleading. Rupp, in fact, received an L-carnitine infusion on January 5, 2012, in an amount that USADA believes, for the reasons set forth below, may have exceeded the WADA 50 mL limit and may therefore have
        constituted an anti-doping rule violation
        .


        Avoiding the TUE process? Man, you twist it up just like Salazar!!!
        WRONG: His athletes had TUEs, so no he didn't just avoid not getting the TUEs.

        When the athletes could, they would get the TUEs. When they couldn't or didn't have enough time, they found other ways to get away with it. It's time that you read the documents. IT's ALL THERE!!!! LOL

        There are articles stating that Dr Brown would give prescriptions where the athlete wouldn't require one. It's all there buddy! It's time that you read the documents. IT's ALL THERE!!!! LOL





        Even officials that are close to the process admit that the TUE process can be beat/abused.


        It's time that Travestyny comes around and admits that HE IS WRONG!!!







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        • Originally posted by koolkc107 View Post
          FAIL

          Actually, it does matter.

          It matters a lot.

          See, Kevin Iole published the same info in May that Hauser did in September and his info was more accurate than Hauser's.

          So the same way you are in this thread over two and a half years later going on and on about conspiracy theories, you should at least be able to produce some proof from back then that you knew what time it was.

          If you can't, doesn't that make you at the very least a mouth breathing parrot that only worries about the "scandals" someone suggests you should?

          I mean Iole prints the info and says everything is all good and you don't react.

          Hauser prints the same thing 4 months later, gets half of it wrong, drags in things completely irrelevant to what happened, and all of a sudden you are outraged?

          Not a good look.

          So again, I must ask C-3PO

          DID YOU OR DID YOU NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY IN MAY 2015 WHEN KEVIN IOLE REPORTED THE IVs AND THE RETROACTIVE TUE?

          PS- You don't even have Ship out's lame excuse. You been here since 2010...

          No, it DOES NOT MATTER!!!

          Why?

          Hauser put it all together and did the investigating. Only after that people realized what happened. Not everyone was aware of the rules. So once they realized it, they commented as they did!!!

          Only then did the NEWs go mainstream. Not when some people here commented.



          and as I said, there are posts and threads questioning Floyd getting IVs with substances and yes, I commented on that.


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          • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
            Salazar, is that YOU?


            YOU have NOTHING!!!


            I have several witnesses.


            WRONG!
            They have not been removed completely. There is now a "threshold" with some asthma meds. So they CAN still be used to enhance performance especially when used in combination with other meds!

            and they still got the TUEs back then. Many athletes under Salazar got them! KABOOOM!


            and as I pointed out and you IGNORED, the statements from people who even defended the TUE process admit that the process can be beat!



            Man, I just realized, your comeback was 1 email but the witnesses had stated that Salazar coaching to get IVs happened on more that 1 occasion. Mentioned 2007 and 2011.
            Your response is Salazar providing an email stating "I do not recall"

            So was that email about 2007 and 2011 DEFLECTO?



            If someone tells you that they do not remember, do you think that means that it didn't happen? Like I said, is that you Salazar?


            There are plenty of witnesses that have come forward. Salazar tried to do his best to thwart the accusers but after a while you need to start telling yourself, how can they all be lying and Salazar be stating the truth when even USADA says that Salazar contorts the truth about his "proof" and his emails? LOL


            And as I keep on telling you, Salazar had plenty of athletes ... do you know of all of the TUEs of all those athletes? Witnesses say that the athletes were coached. Can you prove that to be wrong?


            Innocent? You brought that up. I ask you why? Who is innocent DEFLECTOR?


            Finally, do you not feel like a fool posting so often that I tried to deflect that Salazar/Brown and the athletes had IVs of less than 50ml and therefore didn't need a TUE?


            After I correct you: You keep on DEFLECTING instead of admitting that you were WRONG!!!




            So were YOU WRONG????



            The IVs exceeded 50ml!!!

            .


            Avoiding the TUE process? Man, you twist it up just like Salazar!!!
            WRONG: His athletes had TUEs, so no he didn't just avoid not getting the TUEs.

            When the athletes could, they would get the TUEs. When they couldn't or didn't have enough time, they found other ways to get away with it. It's time that you read the documents. IT's ALL THERE!!!! LOL

            There are articles stating that Dr Brown would give prescriptions where the athlete wouldn't require one. It's all there buddy! It's time that you read the documents. IT's ALL THERE!!!! LOL





            Even officials that are close to the process admit that the TUE process can be beat/abused.


            It's time that Travestyny comes around and admits that HE IS WRONG!!!


            .

            THIS LITTLE BlTCH NOW HAS 3 PEOPLE TELLING HIM THAT HE'S WRONG ABOUT SHlT, BUT HE WON'T ADMIT IT.


            STOP DEFLECTING!!!!



            1. YOUR WITNESS WAS PROVEN WRONG ABOUT THE TUE FOR AN IV IN 2011, RIGHT?


            2. YOUR WITNESS SAID THERE WAS ALSO A TUE FOR AN IV IN 2007. SALAZAR WENT ON RECORD SAYING THAT RUPP NEVER HAD A TUE FOR AN IV, RIGHT?

            DID USADA, WHO HAS ACCESS TO ALL TUE'S, CORRECT THIS OR STATE THAT IT WAS WRONG? DID THEY, ADP02? WHAT THE **** DO YOU THINK THAT MEANS. STOP DUCKING THIS!!!!

            3. YOUR OWN QUOTATION PROVES THAT, LIKE I SAID, THEY CHANGED THEIR METHODS TO GIVE 50ML OR LESS INFUSIONS, YOU ****ING DOPE HEAD. SO HOW THE **** WAS I WRONG ABOUT ANYTHING? YOU ARE JUST DEFLECTING BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT EVEN IF THEY DID GO ABOVE 50ML, THEY WEREN'T GETTING TUE'S FOR THAT YOU MORON!!!!!!!!



            AND GIVE ME THE LINK. YOU'RE A LITTLE LYING BlTCH

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            • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
              I have several witnesses.
              LIST ALL OF YOUR WITNESSES AND SPECIFICALLY WHAT THEY SAID ABOUT TUE MANIPULATION. I WANT TO SEE THIS WITH THEIR STATEMENTS!!! DO IT!

              Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
              WRONG!
              They have not been removed completely. There is now a "threshold" with some asthma meds. So they CAN still be used to enhance performance especially when used in combination with other meds!

              and they still got the TUEs back then. Many athletes under Salazar got them! KABOOOM!
              I'm going to post the Tue's for Rupp. Be sure that you let me know about the whopping dosages that you see, you hear?

              Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
              and as I pointed out and you IGNORED, the statements from people who even defended the TUE process admit that the process can be beat!
              DEFLECTION!!!!! WHAT DOES A GENERAL STATEMENT LIKE THIS HAVE TO DO WITH PROOF THAT SALAZAR MANIPULATED THE TUE PROCESS FOR RUPP OR FOR ANY OTHER ATHLETE???????? LMAOOOOOOOO!


              Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
              If someone tells you that they do not remember, do you think that means that it didn't happen? Like I said, is that you Salazar?
              YOU MORON. HE SAID HE DIDN'T REMEMBER ABOUT CHANGING THE PROCESS, WHICH FOR THE THIRD TIME, IS ALSO PROOF THAT HE DIDN'T GET TUES BECAUSE IF HE DID, THERE WOULD BE NO NEED TO INVESTIGATE WHETHER HE WAS GOING OVER 50ML OR WHETHER HE WAS TRYING TO AVOID THE TUE PROCESS BY GOING AT 50ML OR BELOW!!!!!!!!! WHY DO YOU KEEP DUCKING THIS, ADP02????? YOU'RE SO ****** THAT YOU KEEP RANTING ABOUT HIM NOT GOING 50ML OR BELOW, AND THEN YOU POST A QUOTATION ABOUT HIM CHANGING TO 50ML OR BELOW!!!!! ADMIT THAT YOU ARE WRONGGGGG!


              Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
              There are plenty of witnesses that have come forward. Salazar tried to do his best to thwart the accusers but after a while you need to start telling yourself, how can they all be lying and Salazar be stating the truth when even USADA says that Salazar contorts the truth about his "proof" and his emails? LOL
              DID THE WITNESSES COME FORWARD ABOUT HIM DOPING HIS ATHLETE OR ABOUT TUE'S? STOP DEFLECTING!!!!!! SHOW ME ALL OF THE STATEMENTS THE ATHLETES MADE ABOUT MANIPULATION OF THE TUE SYSTEM. SHOW IT!!!

              Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
              And as I keep on telling you, Salazar had plenty of athletes ... do you know of all of the TUEs of all those athletes? Witnesses say that the athletes were coached. Can you prove that to be wrong?
              USADA HAS ACCESS TO ALL OF THE TUE'S. WE HAVE SOME FOR RUPP. YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ASSUME HE MANIPULATED TUE'S WITH NO PROOF, YOU ****ING MORON! I THINK HE ALSO LISTED HOW MANY OF HIS ATHLETES GOT TUE'S AROUND THE TIME. I'LL SEE IF I CAN FIND THAT INFO.

              Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
              Innocent? You brought that up. I ask you why? Who is innocent DEFLECTOR?
              WHO DID I BRING UP WAS INNOCENT? INNOCENT OF WHAT????? QUOTE ME AND I'LL SCHOOL YOU YET AGAIN!

              Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
              Finally, do you not feel like a fool posting so often that I tried to deflect that Salazar/Brown and the athletes had IVs of less than 50ml and therefore didn't need a TUE?


              After I correct you: You keep on DEFLECTING instead of admitting that you were WRONG!!!




              So were YOU WRONG????

              The IVs exceeded 50ml!!!

              .


              Avoiding the TUE process? Man, you twist it up just like Salazar!!!

              YOU JUST POSTED THE SAME THING YOU ABSOLUTE MORON!!!! LMAOOOOOOO!




              Originally posted by ADP02 View Post

              WRONG: His athletes had TUEs, so no he didn't just avoid not getting the TUEs.
              THEN TELL US WHAT THESE TUES WERE FOR SO WE CAN SEE IF THEY WERE LEGIT. SHOW US YOUR PROOF!

              Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
              When the athletes could, they would get the TUEs. When they couldn't or didn't have enough time, they found other ways to get away with it. It's time that you read the documents. IT's ALL THERE!!!! LOL
              WHAT DOCUMENTS. POST THEM. HAVEN'T I BEEN ASKING YOU FOR DOCUMENTS? ALL YOU KEEP SAYING IS THAT PEOPLE SAID THIS AND THAT. LMAOOOOO. SHOW US THE PROOF!!!!!

              Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
              There are articles stating that Dr Brown would give prescriptions where the athlete wouldn't require one. It's all there buddy! It's time that you read the documents. IT's ALL THERE!!!! LOL
              WE AREN'T TALKING ABOUT PRESCRIPTIONS. STOP DEFLECTING!!!! WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TUE'S. CAN YOU POINT THEM OUT FOR US????


              Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
              Even officials that are close to the process admit that the TUE process can be beat/abused.



              DEFLECTION!!!!!! THIS HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH PROOF THAT SALAZAR MANIPULATED THE TUE PROCESS!!!!

              Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
              It's time that Travestyny comes around and admits that HE IS WRONG!!!
              Originally posted by ADP02 View Post

              .

              YOU HAVE BEEN GETTING THE SHlT KICKED OUT OF YOU OVER THIS, AND IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE. YOU WON'T EVEN POST YOUR INFORMATION UP. POST YOUR QUOTATIONS FROM ATHLETES ABOUT THEM MANIPULATING THE TUE PROCESS. ALL OF THEM.

              AND GIVE ME THAT LINK. WHY ARE YOU STILL DUCKING THIS. YOU ARE LOOKING REAL BAD!

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              • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                YES...NOW YOU ARE GETTING IT!!!!

                It would be a lot easier to do, it would involve much fewer people who can rat, and best of all, there would be no documentation sitting around for people to discover!!!


                I'm happy you agree now. So we done?
                Why would I be done, you still can't justify getting a retro TUE at a home visit, he didn't meet the criteria for a TUE, still no information on any doctor signing off, so if floyd did know when he was being tested then both USADA and fluid are dirty, so that would mean your done

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                • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
                  Why would I be done, you still can't justify getting a retro TUE at a home visit, he didn't meet the criteria for a TUE, still no information on any doctor signing off, so if floyd did know when he was being tested then both USADA and fluid are dirty, so that would mean your done
                  If you have a TUE, it doesn't matter where you are as long as it is medically justified, you dope.

                  You have no proof that he didn't meet the criteria for a TUE.

                  Of course a doctor signed off because he applied for a TUE.

                  If Floyd knew when he was being tested, he wouldn't need a TUE.


                  Thanks for playing

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                  • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                    THIS LITTLE BlTCH NOW HAS 3 PEOPLE TELLING HIM THAT HE'S WRONG ABOUT SHlT, BUT HE WON'T ADMIT IT.


                    STOP DEFLECTING!!!!



                    1. YOUR WITNESS WAS PROVEN WRONG ABOUT THE TUE FOR AN IV IN 2011, RIGHT?


                    2. YOUR WITNESS SAID THERE WAS ALSO A TUE FOR AN IV IN 2007. SALAZAR WENT ON RECORD SAYING THAT RUPP NEVER HAD A TUE FOR AN IV, RIGHT?

                    DID USADA, WHO HAS ACCESS TO ALL TUE'S, CORRECT THIS OR STATE THAT IT WAS WRONG? DID THEY, ADP02? WHAT THE **** DO YOU THINK THAT MEANS. STOP DUCKING THIS!!!!

                    3. YOUR OWN QUOTATION PROVES THAT, LIKE I SAID, THEY CHANGED THEIR METHODS TO GIVE 50ML OR LESS INFUSIONS, YOU ****ING DOPE HEAD. SO HOW THE **** WAS I WRONG ABOUT ANYTHING? YOU ARE JUST DEFLECTING BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT EVEN IF THEY DID GO ABOVE 50ML, THEY WEREN'T GETTING TUE'S FOR THAT YOU MORON!!!!!!!!



                    AND GIVE ME THE LINK. YOU'RE A LITTLE LYING BlTCH

                    1) WRONG!!!
                    a) You believe Salazar is all that we got from that!

                    b) The guy said "I do not remember". Does that mean that it didn't happen? RESPOND DEFLECTOR!!!

                    c) When Salazar was questioned and he said "I DO NOT REMEMBER", was that the truth? See the problem?

                    d) Dr Brown: Articles can be found where he provides meds to athletes that does not require. KABOOOOOOM!

                    e) DEFLECTOR, I got quotes by people saying that the TUE process can be ABUSED!!!




                    2) Please point to where USADA said that there were no TUEs.


                    3) DEFLECTO: Did you not say that the athletes were all given < 50ml so that is why TUEs were not required?

                    ADMIT THAT YOU WERE WRONG!!!

                    [IMG]https://media.*****.com/media/4OJFCEeGzYGs0/*****.gif[/IMG]

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                    • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                      And as I keep on telling you, Salazar had plenty of athletes ... do you know of all of the TUEs of all those athletes? Witnesses say that the athletes were coached. Can you prove that to be wrong?

                      Here is more from Salazar's Open Letter:

                      TUEs AND THE OREGON PROJECT
                      • There is no misuse or manipulation of the TUE process.
                      • Since 2011, the Oregon Project has had 4 TUEs for its athletes.
                      • Six Oregon Project athletes have not had a single TUE during that time period.
                      • There are currently 9 athletes in the Oregon Project



                      In the BBC/ProPublica stories and in additional stories I have seen since, a number of people have alleged that I attempt to manipulate the TUE process for Oregon Project athletes. That is completely false. Kara Goucher’s claim that someone can make a couple of statements to a doctor and get a TUE is absurd and demeaning to the TUE processes of USADA and the IAAF.

                      The USADA and IAAF TUE process is very rigorous process. Medical doctors must submit substantial medical records to support an athlete’s request for a TUE. The medical professionals at the IAAF and/or USADA then closely scrutinize those documents. It is serious process and review. It is not a rubber stamp that can be easily manipulated.

                      Moreover, TUEs are a rare occurrence in the Oregon Project. We currently have 9 athletes in the Oregon Project. Since 2011, those athletes have had a grand total of 4 TUEs all of which were for a one-time use of a 3-5 day duration. Six Oregon Project athletes have not had a single TUE during that time period. One athlete received a TUE for prednisone while still in college. Another received a TUE for pain medication that was provided as part of treatment received in a hospital emergency room. And, as I noted above, Galen has had two TUEs for prednisone. One in 2011 which he did not use and another in February 2012. He has not had any since.

                      From these numbers it is clear that the Oregon Project is not manipulating the TUE process in any way.



                      EXPLAIN ADP02. HE GOES ON RECORD SAYING THAT SINCE 2011 THERE HAVE ONLY BEEN 4 TUES....2 BY GALEN RUPP FOR ASTHMA, ONE FOR ASTHMA MEDICATION WHILE THE ATLETE WAS IN COLLEGE, AND ONE FOR PAIN MEDICATION IN A HOSPITAL EMERGENCY ROOM! ALL WERE FOR A ONE TIME USE FOR 3-5 DAY DURATION.


                      USADA REVIEWED THIS STATEMENT. WHY DIDN'T THEY STATE IT IS WRONG, ADP02. THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE TUES. EXPLAINNNNNNNN!!!!!!!


                      OR JUST ADMIT THAT YOU ARE WRONG. AND GIVE ME THAT LINK! I'VE ASKED ABOUT 50 TIMES NOW. STOP DUCKING!

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