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  • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
    You can't comprehend what a retroactive TUE is, and that it allows you to have treatment anywhere that you are because the whole purpose of a TUE is to allow the athlete to be in good health. There is no way that an IV being delivered at someone's home would be against the rules if a TUE is granted. The athlete's health trumps all.

    Ian McCall, an MMA fighter, had an IV that was NOT at a hospital. He received a retro TUE.

    And you think USADA risks it's neck for $150,000? lmao. Give me a break.
    Originally posted by travestyny View Post
    That's right, and exactly the point!

    Can you show me a video of him throwing up? At the weigh-in he looked just fine. He was even inviting a brawl at the weigh-in.

    Now if it wasn't reported that he was throwing up and furthermore, you clowns would be saying the same thing. He looked fine at the weigh-in. He was drinking water (which he admit he had quite a bit of), HE PASSED HIS NSAC PHYSICAL AND WAS SET TO FIGHT.


    SOMEHOW HE PASSED THIS NSAC PHYSICAL, AND THE DOCTOR TOLD HIM HE COULD HAVE DIED. SO UMMM...WHO'S GOING TO TELL US HOW GREAT THIS NSAC PHYSICAL IS AND WHAT IT PROVES NOW???

    See the point?

    And again, HE DIDN'T HAVE THE IV IN A HOSPITAL, BUT EITHER AT THE VENUE OF THE WEIGH-IN OR AT SOME SORT OF ACCOMMODATIONS SET UP FOR FIGHTERS.

    AND HE WASN'T TAKEN TO THE HOSPITAL UNTIL THE NEXT DAY. SO THIS PROVES THAT THE TUE COULD BE RECEIVED ANYWHERE, JUST AS WE HAVE BEEN TELLING YOU. YOU DON'T WAIT UNTIL THE PERSON GOES TO THE HOSPITAL TO SAY...SEE, IT WAS RIGHT TO GIVE HIM THE IV AT THAT PARTICULAR ACCOMMODATION. YOU DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO PROTECT THE ATHLETE RIGHT THEN AND THERE.

    Ian Mcall ... you mean the post that you never replied to!!!


    McCall was throwing up way BEFORE the weigh-in.


    McCall didn't end up fighting and he drained his body 25lbs.


    Floyd was fully rehydrated after drinking those fluids!!!


    Even a blind man can tell the difference! BUT since you watch boxing, I'm presuming that you can see!


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    • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
      DAUYMN. You killed this pact@rd.
      Straight facts.


      Somehow idiots like ADP02 still want to bring up Floyds 30 day weight.

      Lol.

      NSAC doctors cleared a dying man to fight?

      Jeez.

      Athletes health is first and foremost.
      Remember that kids.

      Dude, Ian McCall drained his body 25lbs and the doctors told him that he can die!!!!



      Floyd weighed relatively the same for 30 freaking days and said that he made weight easily for a decade and the reason is that he walks around 150, 148.

      Can YOU tell the difference?

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      • DEFLECTO CITY.


        Man, what the FKC is wrong you Floyd fans that are willing to take a bullet for your hero?


        1) You contradict yourself

        You said Floyd had
        "5 years of monitoring blood and urine profiles with longitudinal software "
        Then you say this and shoot down Floyd's early samples of testing
        Tygart was referencing within his statement in 2011 does not compare to the testing and procedures Floyd was subjected to on May 1st 2015.

        2) Tygart's statement still holds true today. Athletes have done this and continue to do this!


        3) I keep on telling you that if done right, micro dosing can still shoot down ABP

        Also, the chemists are getting so good that some of the efficacy [of performance-enhancing drugs taken in small doses] can leave [the bloodstream] in less than 90 minutes. So how do you deal with that? Test [athletes] in the warm-up area? That’s not going to happen.

        4) What does ABP testing have to do with May 1st and Floyd's IV scandal? Let us all know!




        5) Idiot?
        All you keep on doing is like that video that you posted, idiot!

        Travestyny asked for examples and I provided them to him. Did I say that is exactly what happened? I think you need to go watch that video again, idiot!!!



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        Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
        What does ABP have to do with FLOYDS IV?

        I'm done. You're a ****ing waste.
        Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
        This idiot ADP02 thinks ABP blood and urine profiles can be beaten by using a catheter.

        Don't know why I even wasted so much time with this idiot.


        What I was asking you is to provide meat to your responses instead of your silly one liners that are useless!

        Explain what you mean. Or you are concerned that you are WRONG so you do not want to elaborate?


        also, how about responding to my points? Start with watching the video you provided so you do not always fall to the lowest common denominator with all of your silly useless responses.


        That is of course, you actually mean what you say?




        So DoSomething not Nothing!!!


        [IMG]https://media.*****.com/media/YQPoaNsmsYlcA/*****.gif[/IMG]

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        • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
          Didn't have to be an emergency - didn't you read the rules?

          Could've been due to time constraints. Could've been diarrhea. I don't know. Either way whatever the documented medical reason that caused dehydration - the IV was within WADA, NSAC AND USADA rules.
          We do know what the IV was for, dehydration, floyd and ellerbe said it themselves you knobjockey, so he doesn't meet the criteria, there is a word for word rule stating that it had to be in advance at his house, all you clowns do is try and make excuses for the PED cheat, you've posted 1 rule that say he CAN get a retro TUE to combat dehydration but it still has to meet the criteria, it still has to be monitored by WADA, as WADA STATED, but it wasn't monitored and he didn't meet the criteria, your such a dribbling little fluid fanboy, I'm sure you alts would eat a floyd **** just to say you had

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          • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
            That's right, and exactly the point!

            Can you show me a video of him throwing up? At the weigh-in he looked just fine. He was even inviting a brawl at the weigh-in.

            Now if it wasn't reported that he was throwing up and furthermore, you clowns would be saying the same thing. He looked fine at the weigh-in. He was drinking water (which he admit he had quite a bit of), HE PASSED HIS NSAC PHYSICAL AND WAS SET TO FIGHT.


            SOMEHOW HE PASSED THIS NSAC PHYSICAL, AND THE DOCTOR TOLD HIM HE COULD HAVE DIED. SO UMMM...WHO'S GOING TO TELL US HOW GREAT THIS NSAC PHYSICAL IS AND WHAT IT PROVES NOW???

            See the point?

            And again, HE DIDN'T HAVE THE IV IN A HOSPITAL, BUT EITHER AT THE VENUE OF THE WEIGH-IN OR AT SOME SORT OF ACCOMMODATIONS SET UP FOR FIGHTERS.

            AND HE WASN'T TAKEN TO THE HOSPITAL UNTIL THE NEXT DAY. SO THIS PROVES THAT THE TUE COULD BE RECEIVED ANYWHERE, JUST AS WE HAVE BEEN TELLING YOU. YOU DON'T WAIT UNTIL THE PERSON GOES TO THE HOSPITAL TO SAY...SEE, IT WAS RIGHT TO GIVE HIM THE IV AT THAT PARTICULAR ACCOMMODATION. YOU DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO PROTECT THE ATHLETE RIGHT THEN AND THERE.
            He went to hospital knobjockey, did fluid go to hospital, NO. The fight was cancelled, was fluids fight cancelled, NO, so how is this anything like fluids cheating
            Last edited by Shape up; 11-20-2017, 01:58 AM.

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            • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
              We do know what the IV was for, dehydration, floyd and ellerbe said it themselves you knobjockey, so he doesn't meet the criteria, there is a word for word rule stating that it had to be in advance at his house, all you clowns do is try and make excuses for the PED cheat, you've posted 1 rule that say he CAN get a retro TUE to combat dehydration but it still has to meet the criteria, it still has to be monitored by WADA, as WADA STATED, but it wasn't monitored and he didn't meet the criteria, your such a dribbling little fluid fanboy, I'm sure you alts would eat a floyd **** just to say you had

              They(Floyd fans) bring up stuff like
              What if Floyd was jogging?

              What if Floyd had the runs/diarrhea?


              But

              Floyd gave his BS excuses. He didn't say that he had the runs. He said it was due to giving urine, blood(10 days before), and his training camp but there are several videos of Floyd saying that he is relaxing during his FINAL DAYs and just going to do a "little bit at the gym to stay sharp"


              So no diarrhea, no extreme workouts.


              and finally, it should go without saying, when you are extremely dehydrated that means that you lost a lot of weight. Medically speaking, > 10%. This is even when you are having diarrhea.

              After drinking the fluids after the weigh-in, Floyd was not even clinically dehydrated, so forget about being "extremely dehydrated", as Floyd LIED about.


              Correct: It was for dehydration. We all know this!!!


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              • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                DEFLECTO CITY.


                Man, what the FKC is wrong you Floyd fans that are willing to take a bullet for your hero?


                1) You contradict yourself

                You said Floyd had


                Then you say this and shoot down Floyd's early samples of testing



                2) Tygart's statement still holds true today. Athletes have done this and continue to do this!


                3) I keep on telling you that if done right, micro dosing can still shoot down ABP




                4) What does ABP testing have to do with May 1st and Floyd's IV scandal? Let us all know!




                5) Idiot?
                All you keep on doing is like that video that you posted, idiot!

                Travestyny asked for examples and I provided them to him. Did I say that is exactly what happened? I think you need to go watch that video again, idiot!!!



                .





                What I was asking you is to provide meat to your responses instead of your silly one liners that are useless!

                Explain what you mean. Or you are concerned that you are WRONG so you do not want to elaborate?


                also, how about responding to my points? Start with watching the video you provided so you do not always fall to the lowest common denominator with all of your silly useless responses.


                That is of course, you actually mean what you say?




                So DoSomething not Nothing!!!


                [IMG]https://media.*****.com/media/YQPoaNsmsYlcA/*****.gif[/IMG]

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                5 years of testing and ABP monitoring of BLOOD AND URINE

                DOES NOT COMPARRREEEEEEE TOOOOOOOOO TESTINNNNGG THAT CAN BEEEEEE BEEEAATTTT WITH A. WHIZZIIINNNNATOOOOOOORRR






                Got it? Or do I need to say it slower?




                Wait. You do realize part of the reason WADA implemented a system that monitors the athletes profile of BLOOD and urine over time
                is because of a whizzinator?

                Right? Is that why I have to repeat the same thing for 5 post?


                Lets try it one more time....

                If the athlete provides a urine sample that is frozen, his cousins, a synthetic chemical, soap underfingernails , toilet water or whatever else you want to come up with

                1. ABP will detect fluctuations
                2. ABP urine and blood markers won't match.

                Both will result in a doping violation BECAUSE THATS WHAT ABP IS FOR.







                ARE WE DONE ABOUT THIS OR ARE YOU GOING TO KEEP BEING ******?
                Last edited by Dosumpthin; 11-20-2017, 03:45 AM.

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                • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  You cannot squirm out of this one bud. You got caught and you are NOT getting away with playing dumb LIKE YOU USUALLY DO!!!


                  CORRECTION:
                  You said the IVs were <50ml .... and so no TUEs were required.

                  YOU WERE WRONG!!!!


                  Now you can proceed DEFLECTO!!!






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                  Um. No I didn’t you idiot. Lmaooooo. I said he was giving injections of 50ml to NOT apply for a tue you moron. LMAOOOO. YOUR JUST MAD BECAUSE YOU WERE PROVEN WRONG YET AGAIN!!!

                  Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                  The guy gave infusions, via small injections under 50ml.
                  The first time you said this dumb shlt, I corrected you:

                  Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                  ARE YOU ******ED OR JUST NOT ABLE TO COMPREHEND ANYTHING. THAT IS THE WHOLE ****ING POINT. I TOLD YOU THAT HE WAS GIVING SMALL INJECTIONS AND TRYING TO CLAIM THAT THEY WERE NOT CONSIDERED AN INFUSION OVER 50ML, BUT USADA BELIEVES THAT IS BULLSHlT AND IT DOES CONSTITUTE AN INFUSION OF OVER 50ML.
                  AND THEN YOUR DUMB ASS GOES AND POSTS THE SAME EXACT THING THAT I SAID!!!!

                  Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  Yet, there is a significant hole in Magness’s description of multiple injections which collectively exceeded the 50 mL WADA infusion limit but were spaced to circumvent the 50 mL limit.
                  YUP...THAT'S A DESCRIPTION OF THEM GIVING SMALL INFUSIONS AND WADA SAYING THAT'S BULLSHlT. OOOPS!!!!! YOU LOSE AGAIN!


                  I never said he didn’t need a TUE you moron. Why would I say he didn’t need one when the whole purpose of the 200 page document is USADA saying he was doing shady shlt to NOT apply for a TUE you butthurt f@g!!!!! Lmaooooo.


                  Aaaaahahahaha. ADP02 is desperate and making up liessssss!!!!



                  Give me that link you little bltch!
                  Last edited by travestyny; 11-20-2017, 06:12 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    They(Floyd fans) bring up stuff like
                    What if Floyd was jogging?

                    What if Floyd had the runs/diarrhea?


                    But

                    Floyd gave his BS excuses. He didn't say that he had the runs. He said it was due to giving urine, blood(10 days before), and his training camp but there are several videos of Floyd saying that he is relaxing during his FINAL DAYs and just going to do a "little bit at the gym to stay sharp"


                    So no diarrhea, no extreme workouts.


                    and finally, it should go without saying, when you are extremely dehydrated that means that you lost a lot of weight. Medically speaking, > 10%. This is even when you are having diarrhea.

                    After drinking the fluids after the weigh-in, Floyd was not even clinically dehydrated, so forget about being "extremely dehydrated", as Floyd LIED about.


                    Correct: It was for dehydration. We all know this!!!


                    .

                    No medical records? Then we don't know the medical condition that justified the TUE. HE COULD HAVE HAD DIARRHEA AS PER WADA RULES. That's just one example of a medical condition that warrants an IV.



                    And don't say NSAC doctors checked FLoyd because it has been proven NSAC doctors found a dying man fit to fight.



                    Same shlt you've been told 2 years ago. Lol.

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                    • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                      Ian Mcall ... you mean the post that you never replied to!!!


                      McCall was throwing up way BEFORE the weigh-in.


                      McCall didn't end up fighting and he drained his body 25lbs.


                      Floyd was fully rehydrated after drinking those fluids!!!


                      Even a blind man can tell the difference! BUT since you watch boxing, I'm presuming that you can see!


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                      Your dumb ass would have said he was fit to fight because he was at the weigh-in looking just fine and open to fighting his opponent right then and there. Lmaoooo


                      TELL US ABOUT HOW GOOD NSAC IS ABOUT DIAGNOSING DEHYDRATION AGAIN, BlTCH. LMAOOOOOOO!!!

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