Here's Where All The Floyd Cheat Theories Fail

[travestyny]

In that post, you said that USADA cannot do differently and I responded that USADA can and does ..... and that with Floyd, he is the only one who knows in his fights when the TESTs STARTs and ENDs .... even Floyd's opponents are not sure exactly as they are waiting for Floyd to agree to the contract and sign. With Berto, it was after 39 days!


No contradictions.

We do not know exactly which drug Floyd was trying to hide. We just know that he tried to delay testing and then used an IV to delay even further! As I pointed out in the past, Floyd was NOT expecting to be tested at so close to the fight. So he did like some other cheats and used while being sure that he does not come back positive on the final test after the fight. Once the DCO showed up, Floyd and company was stalling as long as possible. They were not sure if their PED would come up negative and hopefully with the delays, it would all be good .... Getting a couple of IVs delayed even further and would have diluted the urine enough to bring down the concentration to below the range of detection or "threshold".

Some PEDs are out of your system in hours, some days, some more than that. It could be that Floyd took PEDs the day before or a few days before but as I said, Floyd wasn't expecting to be tested and was worried that he would come back positive.


There is NO WAY that Floyd was extremely dehydrated. I gave you enough stats on this for you to realize that it makes no sense (Floyd's BS that he was extremely dehydrated). How can you be extremely dehydrated due to his BS excuses and come in weight as he always does and admits to making weight EASILY for a DECADE!!!

I see in another post you used stats
but
when it comes to Floyd being hydrated, your math becomes like someone who plays ignorant!!! LOL ... DEFLECTOR is what I call it!


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Answer? I've answered it in the past. Some is even posted by me today. What more do you want?



What? Novitsky though said it takes weeks if not months to thoroughly vet and he was being asked questions about a case concerning banned method that so happens to be about IVs!!!

In that case it took a while and also in the other IV cases it took time. Novitsky said that the vetting process is thorough and is NOT just having 3 medical experts read a doctor's note. What you bring up is NOT what he called a thorough vetting process.
That is what you do when you want to have someone get away with cheating a la Lance Armstrong when he gave his doctor's BS medical note!!!! You just do not like Novitsky's response!



DCO? LOL ... he is the source of everything now? DCO is not the one who examined Floyd. Floyd was examined by several doctors, Columbo!!! Start the vetting process with that! Then check out the vital signs. Floyd consistent weight for 30 days! for a decade according to ..... FLOYD!!!!








Of course Novitsky would say that about USADA because he is the one who just hired USADA for his company .... but as you read, there is supposed to be a thorough vetting process. Floyd was NOT vetted. Floyd got the RETRO TUE on his lap the next freaking day!!! Just enough time to fabricate the RETRO TUE certificate! LOL


but you also DEFLECT.
Novitsky's statement gives the impression that you can get a RETRO TUE if you made a mistake and forgot to present information about banned substances until way later after the event .... that is like Lance providing a late medical note. BOTH are dumb and wrong .... but Novistky's statement is worse since its circa 2015/2016 and it's USADA who is implementing this ******ed view!





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1. Wait, what? Part of your “evidence” is that Floyd was not expecting to be tested so close to the fight?


Where is the proof of that???

2. According to your expert analysis, Floyd shouldn’t have been dehydrated for the Mosley fight, right? Did you ever answer if he went running the morning of the test? How about did he have the runs? How about when did they take the first urine sample, which to any person with common sense would be right away. There goes your delay theory.

3. It’s YOU that doesn’t like Novizky’s statement. He told you exactly what he thought of Floyd’s cas me and you are deflecting. You think 3 doctors can’t take 2 days (not sure why you keep saying one when I already corrected you on this. But even 1 day would be enough) to assess if someone needs an IV for dehydration?

And don’t dare bring up thresholds. I thought you learned your lesson

Now answer my questions and stop ducking and deflecting!!!

[ADP02]

OK, MAN THEY CALL DEFLECTOR! I answered your questions. This is probably the 4th time I posted this (after answering all of your questions, I repeat.) Now can you stop ducking and deflecting and just answer. Oh, and I added a #9. You don't mind, do you?


1. If an IV masks a urine sample by dilution, how is it that Floyd Mayweather was able to accomplish diluting his sample when the sample was tested for dilution by the USADA DCO and by the WADA laboratory? Mind you, the WADA laboratory doesn't have his name on the sample.

a) If a LAB comes back with a dilute sample, it doesn't make Floyd positive of PEDs ..... all it would say is that it was dilute/invalid! Perfect for Floyd!

b) DCO test for dilution may not be as accurate.

c) Floyd gave partial urine samples!!! Neither are valid on its own.

d) Both partial samples are mixed together!!!! So if 2nd one is too diluted it can invalidate the initial sample collected! Awesome for Floyd!

e) If after trying again, the DCO can just call it a day due to "exceptional circumstances" by saying Floyd went thru a lot and had an emergency type situation .... bla bla bla!!! PERFECT FOR FLOYD

f) Remember that YOU are believing USADA's and Floyd's every word. That is why Lance and UCI got away with it for so long. People believed that Lance was clean because the UCI said so and it was all by the books.TRY AGAIN!!!!

2. Was Lance Armstrong ever faced with the Athlete Biological Passport for the Steroidal module that Floyd Mayweather was faced with?

Biological Passport for ... Is this some sort of DEFLECTION?
This was just started up in 2014 and after a trial run was quickly revised in September 2014. So Floyd had no testing before then and since then Floyd was shortening more and more the number of days to test due to when he would sign the contracts.


Also, Floyd only would be tested for a period of 4-7 weeks. Floyd can presumably maintain an ABP in the higher spectrum and it would look "normal" for Floyd even though it was actually that Floyd was cheating!!! Other athletes get tested 365 days a year so that has a higher chance of catching a cheat who is "on" and "off" right when he least expects it. Floyd knows and knows well.



Man, imagine, Floyd can cheat during that time frame and it would appear that all things are cool!

3. [A.]Did Lance Armstrong have to get a retro TUE from an independent group of doctors that didn't have his name on the application? [B.] Did WADA exist when Lance Armstrong received the retroactive TUE?

At the time, the tests in France were conducted by a 3rd party (French ministry). The ministry had their own DCO who was medical doctor and conducted the tests. UCI's DCO would be their to give any assistance that was required.

Back then it was the French ministry and IOC that could have come back but even with all the hoopla back then, didn't came back to review the decision and as stated, stated (French ministry) that Lance wasn't cheating.

This sounds a lot like when you bring up WADA but at least, these people actually were more involved with Lance's tests than WADA for Floyd!!!



WADA?
You do not think that things are happening under their nose? You think that Lance and others were not using PEDs and getting assistance from others when WADA took control?

4. Was Lance Armstrong faced with the same caliber EPO test that Mayweather was faced with?

Well, actually the French ministry of sports would be checking these out, if required. Their explanation was that what Lance's doctor gave was all OK and explains what Lance was doing and for what.

All it took was the doctor's BS fake A$$ RETRO note!!!


As for testing, in some cases it was better. Athletes were NOT micro dosing early on and therefore got caught!
The test that caught Lance in 1999, was newly introduced just days before he was tested. SURPRISE, SURPRISE!

Some tests were introduced with no knowledge to the athletes and they got caught!


Lance was caught with a su****ious dose of EPO that was just below the "threshold" and as pointed out in 1999, with steroids. Beats an ABP test of just weeks per year for Floyd where Floyd controls the dates!!!

5. How do you think Mayweather's urine sample was altered to hide PEDs that you claim must have been in his system, yet the ABP with respect to the steroidal module was not set off?

Already explained above. There are other ways to beat these tests. Some we know about, some we heard about and some we do not know! Novistky said that there are ways to beat CIR tests as well and it was admitted that some of these tests are not great when someone micro doses! This includes CIR testing!

6. Why does it make sense for a paid off USADA to involve a doping control officer, a paramedic, a personal physician, three independent doctors on the the****utic use exemptions committee, the NSAC, Manny Pacquiao, the public, a WADA lab, and WADA itself in their attempt to protect Floyd Mayweather when the best plan of action would clearly be to tell Floyd when they were coming, refuse to document the IV, or both. Clearly they could have stayed away, had the paramedic give him the IV and leave, and then take the sample and no one would know. Please explain.

I know you can't answer this because your previous answer was that they would find plasticizers, but this was debunked by me. So where do you go from there?

AGAIN, are you saying that it's IMPOSSIBLE?

GO FREAKING ANSWER MY QUESTION ABOUT LANCE. Similar scenarios.

Lance had quite a few of those people in his pocket but he couldn't have them all. For Lance there still was a paper trail even though he had top officials on his side!!!

Are you saying it is NOT possible????

There is NO WAY that Floyd should have been allowed a RETRO TUE ..... NO WAY!!!



USADA said they can know people who have used IVs. Go ask them if they are wrong! Secondly, are you saying that plasticizers are extinct? Are you saying that Floyd should have risked all that? What would happen when someone would find out????? You cannot answer this simple question.

I'm presuming that the DCO was hanging with Floyd at the weigh-in. I'm sure that people witnessed the DCO barging in some places and identifying himself.

I'm sure that you are aware that Lance had a DCO there taking his samples ..... but again, you cannot answer any of this. YOU DEFLECT!!! Is it IMPOSSIBLE? NOPE!!!! STOP DEFLECTING!!!

The paramedic would have a trace of what happened. Man, you are no Columbo!!! I answered all of this today and other times too .... IT IS YOU THAT DEFLECTS!!!

7. [A.] Why would the DCO take a urine sample from before the IV if Mayweather was using PED's before the IV? [B.] Why would the DCO take a urine sample from AFTER the IV if the IV infused PED's into Mayweather?

Why would the DCO take Lance's samples? That is their job!!!

DCO was there to get Floyd's urine sample. When Floyd could only give less than what is required, the DCO stayed and got the rest after long delays of 6+ hours!

8. [A.] Is Mayweather Promotions the only promotional company that has paid $100,000 for USADA testing? [B.] Do you have a problem with Arum paying $20,000 for VADA to test Pacquiao, or is that quite alright?

$150, 000 and $100, 000 going to USADA is quite different than giving less for as you admitted, similar activities!!! Why the extra money, Columbo?

Manny has used VADA and WADA but Floyd didn't want VADA.

Floyd wanted to fight in VEGAS exclusively, have his VEGAS judges, VEGAS ref, VEGAS location, Nevada SAC, USADA exclusively!!! Why? Didn't you say that they are similar? Why pay more?

9. If, as you have stated, Mayweather takes PED's in the time before training camp and cycles off before the start of training, why would he be attempting to mask PED use the day before a test? Even Conte, whom some of you bring up and one guy posted a video of, stated, "These guys are not ****** enough to try to use something the day before the event." So by all means, please explain your contradiction.

DO NOT DEFLECT OR DUCK. ANSWER MY QUESTIONS IN ORDER PLEASE.

I already explained all of this before. Floyd wouldn't be the first to be using, meaning, taking a risk. By experience, Floyd expected no more testing until after the fight. he gambled and it almost bit him. Actually it's you that needs to explain this. Why are athletes coming up positive? Are they all dumb?

They may be micro-dosing, or using PEDs that are excreted quickly from the system during that period and or taking other drugs or ways to mask/hide. Remember what MEMO, Floyd's consultant said. He had 20 ways to beat the system. USADA gave Floyd 6+ hours delay, 2 banned IVs .... Floyd could have used some of those techniques!!!



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[ADP02]

There is something wrong with you.

YAWN .....

Yet what I have read was that most people who post here say that you are one of the worst posters here .... Just saying!

[travestyny]

a) If a LAB comes back with a dilute sample, it doesn't make Floyd positive of PEDs ..... all it would say is that it was dilute/invalid! Perfect for Floyd!

b) DCO test for dilution may not be as accurate.

c) Floyd gave partial urine samples!!! Neither are valid on its own.

d) Both partial samples are mixed together!!!! So if 2nd one is too diluted it can invalidate the initial sample collected! Awesome for Floyd!

e) If after trying again, the DCO can just call it a day due to "exceptional circumstances" by saying Floyd went thru a lot and had an emergency type situation .... bla bla bla!!! PERFECT FOR FLOYD

f) Remember that YOU are believing USADA's and Floyd's every word. That is why Lance and UCI got away with it for so long. People believed that Lance was clean because the UCI said so and it was all by the books.TRY AGAIN!!!!

LMAOOOOO. NOTHING YOU WROTE ANSWERS THE QUESTION. YOU JUST GAVE COMPLETE SPECULATION THAT WADA’s TESTING ISNT GOOD ENOUGH! THE DCO MAY NOT BE GOOD AT TAKING THE SPG???? AND HOW DOES IT MAKE SINCE THAT HIS INITIAL SAMPLE WAS DILUTED WHEN HE WAS REPORTEDLY DEHYDRATED? OR IS IT THAT HIS SAMPLE AFTER THE IV IS DILUTED AND SUCCESSFULLY DILUTED THE FIRST SAMPLE, which was CLEARLY NOT DEEMED DILUTED BY THE LAB. Lmao. You can’t explain!!!!

WAS THE FINAL SAMPLE DILUTED??? WHY DIDNT YOU GIVE AN ANSWER!!!??? DCO and the lab checked it. WAS IT DILUTED OR NOT? LET ME KNOW!

Biological Passport for ... Is this some sort of DEFLECTION?
This was just started up in 2014 and after a trial run was quickly revised in September 2014. So Floyd had no testing before then and since then Floyd was shortening more and more the number of days to test due to when he would sign the contracts.

Also, Floyd only would be tested for a period of 4-7 weeks. Floyd can presumably maintain an ABP in the higher spectrum and it would look "normal" for Floyd even though it was actually that Floyd was cheating!!! Other athletes get tested 365 days a year so that has a higher chance of catching a cheat who is "on" and "off" right when he least expects it. Floyd knows and knows well.

LMAOOOOOOO. SO YOU ARE ARGUING THAT HE TAKES PED’s BEFORE TESTING BUT MAINTAINS ABNORMAL ABP VALUES WHILE TESTING. ? LMAOOOO. R.I.P. What’s next?

At the time, the tests in France were conducted by a 3rd party (French ministry). The ministry had their own DCO who was medical doctor and conducted the tests. UCI's DCO would be their to give any assistance that was required.

Back then it was the French ministry and IOC that could have come back but even with all the hoopla back then, didn't came back to review the decision and as stated, stated (French ministry) that Lance wasn't cheating.

This sounds a lot like when you bring up WADA but at least, these people actually were more involved with Lance's tests than WADA for Floyd!!!

Wow. Can you answer a question without squirming. There was NO WADA when Lance got the retro TUE. That means no review by a TUEC committee and no application uploaded to a ****ing database to possibly be reviewed. YOU LOSE!

WADA?
You do not think that things are happening under their nose? You think that Lance and others were not using PEDs and getting assistance from others when WADA took control?

Hahaha. Could he have gotten away with it if WADA existed? No way. It wasn’t even a part of UCI’s rules and you think it would pass WADA’s rules? Lol. You lose.

Well, actually the French ministry of sports would be checking these out, if required. Their explanation was that what Lance's doctor gave was all OK and explains what Lance was doing and for what.

All it took was the doctor's BS fake A$$ RETRO note!!!

Tell us more about this French ministry. Was their rules that you can’t test positive for a substance and then go back and get a tue from a doctor (not from a TUE COMMITTEE). Did they have a tue committee review everything? Was it all documented and uploaded to an organization Like WADA? You are comparing the WORLD ANTI DOPING AGENCY to THE FRENCH MINISTRY!!! LMAOOOOOOO. YOU ARE DESPERATE! Let’s keep going!

As for testing, in some cases it was better. Athletes were NOT micro dosing early on and therefore got caught!
The test that caught Lance in 1999, was newly introduced just days before he was tested. SURPRISE, SURPRISE!

Some tests were introduced with no knowledge to the athletes and they got caught!


Lance was caught with a su****ious dose of EPO that was just below the "threshold" and as pointed out in 1999, with steroids. Beats an ABP test of just weeks per year for Floyd where Floyd controls the dates!!!

Did you just say testing was better in the past??? Say it again please. I want to know just how desperate you are!

Already explained above. There are other ways to beat these tests. Some we know about, some we heard about and some we do not know! Novistky said that there are ways to beat CIR tests as well and it was admitted that some of these tests are not great when someone micro doses! This includes CIR testing!

Lol. There is no answer here. Your “proof” is that he may have dobe something we don’t know about??? That is your proof? Game over, clown!

AGAIN, are you saying that it's IMPOSSIBLE?

GO FREAKING ANSWER MY QUESTION ABOUT LANCE. Similar scenarios.

Lance had quite a few of those people in his pocket but he couldn't have them all. For Lance there still was a paper trail even though he had top officials on his side!!!

Are you saying it is NOT possible????

There is NO WAY that Floyd should have been allowed a RETRO TUE ..... NO WAY!!!

LMAOOOOO. DEFLECTION. ANSWER THE QUESTION!!! WHY THE PAPERTRAIL WHEN ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS TELL HIM WHEN THEY ARE COMING AND TURN AWAY FROM THE IV. YOU JUST DEFLECTED!!!

USADA said they can know people who have used IVs. Go ask them if they are wrong! Secondly, are you saying that plasticizers are extinct? Are you saying that Floyd should have risked all that? What would happen when someone would find out????? You cannot answer this simple question.

what is the question here that you think I can’t answer, you moron. No they wouldn’t find plasticizers you idiot. Plasticizers are used in blood bags. They are not used in IV bags you complete fool. I already showed you proof of that and you come back with, oh they can find plasticizers. Lmao. You are driwning in your hate! Tell me how they would know, ADP02. I’m waiting!!!!! You claim Mayweather did some shlt to cheat that no one knows of, yet you think that he can’t afford to have an IV bag with no plasticizers! You idiot!

I'm presuming that the DCO was hanging with Floyd at the weigh-in. I'm sure that people witnessed the DCO barging in some places and identifying himself.

I'm sure that you are aware that Lance had a DCO there taking his samples ..... but again, you cannot answer any of this. YOU DEFLECT!!! Is it IMPOSSIBLE? NOPE!!!! STOP DEFLECTING!!!

What is it that you think I’m deflecting, bltch? Answer what? Answer how the DCO was present and took a sample befor and after the IV? Lol. You do realize that the DCO has to be present to watch the athlete when he arrives, right. What info do you have about DCO’s who watched Lance? You’re stuck because WADA is much more capable than in the time of Lance and it makes you look like a moron!!!

The paramedic would have a trace of what happened. Man, you are no Columbo!!! I answered all of this today and other times too .... IT IS YOU THAT DEFLECTS!!!

The paramedic would have a trace of what happened? Do you think they would purposely include a paramedic into a conspiracy that would be the biggest in US sports history, you idiot!?

Why would the DCO take Lance's samples? That is their job!!!

DCO was there to get Floyd's urine sample. When Floyd could only give less than what is required, the DCO stayed and got the rest after long delays of 6+ hours!

When do you think the first sample was given, genius? Lol. If the DCO was paid off, why would he take a concentrated sample before the IV? YOU CANT ANSWER!

$150, 000 and $100, 000 going to USADA is quite different than giving less for as you admitted, similar activities!!! Why the extra money, Columbo?

I am Columbo compared to you, you absolute idiot. Don’t you know anything? VADA has no paid staff. They hire everyone as they go. They do no ABP. Their DCO’s are not certified. I don’t even think they allot any money toward arbitration. Learn how to do some real research you dope head.

Manny has used VADA and WADA but Floyd didn't want VADA.

Floyd wanted to fight in VEGAS exclusively, have his VEGAS judges, VEGAS ref, VEGAS location, Nevada SAC, USADA exclusively!!! Why? Didn't you say that they are similar? Why pay more?

Yet another deflection. Again, DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ARUM PAYING FOR TESTING? Let me know why you deflected lol!!!

I already explained all of this before. Floyd wouldn't be the first to be using, meaning, taking a risk. By experience, Floyd expected no more testing until after the fight. he gambled and it almost bit him. Actually it's you that needs to explain this. Why are athletes coming up positive? Are they all dumb?

Lmaoooooooo. This pleases me. Floyd knew he wouldn’t be tested close to the fight? Lmaoooooooooo. You have embarrassed yourself. Congratulations!!!!!!

Athletes come up dirty for many reasons you dope. Floyd Mayweather, whom you accuse of cheating up until the fight, never has. Hmmmm.

They may be micro-dosing, or using PEDs that are excreted quickly from the system during that period and or taking other drugs or ways to mask/hide. Remember what MEMO, Floyd's consultant said. He had 20 ways to beat the system. USADA gave Floyd 6+ hours delay, 2 banned IVs .... Floyd could have used some of those techniques!!!
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SO YOUR “PROOF” IS SOLELY BASED ON FLOYD HAVING DONE SOMETHING THAT NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT YET. THATS WHAT I THOUGHT!!! You have NOTHING!

Now one more time: WHY DIDNT THEY JUST TELL HIM WHEN THEY WERE COMING AND IGNORE THE IV IF THEY WERE PAID OFF?????? WHY THE **** WOULD THEY TAKE A SAMPLE FROM BEFORE THE IV AND CLEARLY MAKE IT MORE LIKELY THAT A DIRTY SAMPLE WOULD BE REVEALED.

YOU CANT ANSWER!!!!! Thanks for playing, chump!

[maracho]

More BS that was already debunked.


Here is Christiane Ayotte, head of the Montreal WADA lab, saying T/E ratio values of .29, .35, and .19 are not low.

Dr. Christiane Ayotte, the head of the WADA-accredited laboratory in Montreal, saw no problem with Jones' T/E ratio.

One way to manipulate a T/E ratio downward would be to take epitestosterone, but Ayotte said that would be easily detected in a screening.

"I read the interviews of 'specialists' on that topic [in MMA media accounts], and, well, I am sorry, but such T/E values are not at all abnormal," she said. "

Furthermore, all samples are CIR tested.

Conte also said in that video that these guys aren't ****** enough to try to do PED's a day before the event....so why is anyone accusing Mayweather of trying to mask one day before the fight?

No answers.

Lol..Christine Ayotte claims she read interviews covered in MMA media accounts. WADA's **** Pound (who Conte claims destroys records and is very non-transparent) calls Ayotte a great scientist but why didn't she do like real scientists do and check actual scientific journals?

In the following science article discussing the abuse of steroids by police officers, a normal male should have about 1:1 ratio of Testosterone to epitestosterone http://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/...pitestosterone.
However, according to your own link, an AfroAmerican athlete should have an even higher ratio so why is Mayweather's low? The common explanation is that synthetic steroid use is making him unable to produce testosterone naturally.

Likewise funny that you refuse to believe Conte when he talks of Mayweather's red flags but then you use his explanation of why roids ain't good right before a fight as excusing Mayweather's use of saline IV as a masking agent. If that is so, why do boxer's and other athletes get busted for diuretics right after their competitions? In the Conte video I posted, Conte claims that stimulants are used right before a fight so how do you know Floyd wasn't masking some of the many stimulants, or microdosing some new and better stuff as is usually the case among rich, top of the line Ped users?

[ADP02]

Are you slow? Didn't I answer this already.


Let me make it even more clear for you.

It was NOT impossible for Lance because there were less restrictions in place at that time.

It was nearly impossible for Floyd because there were more restrictions at that time.

Now once you get the balls to answer my questions, we can discuss those restrictions and you can explain to me how he could have done it, because right now all you do is duck and deflect.

ANSWER THE QUESTIONS, ADP02. STOP DUCKING ME!

Restrictions? Man, what a DEFLECTION!!!!

WADA has pointed out that quite a few NADO's who do follow, tend to be following the protocol by following the minimum that is required.

So to say, USADA can get away with a lot more than you think!


Novitsky said that on top of the TUEC there is more thorough vetting process for RETRO TUEs ..... there was none of that for Floyd. If they would have, there was a ton of information to process and go thru!!!

They read Floyd's doc's note and went with that. IF WADA would check they would just be checking if USADA followed the protocol ...


As stated, for Lance, the tests were done by France's Ministry of sports .... they and IOC found no issues even after the media got a hold of things.

So if this was you back then, you would have said, Lance's doctor, trainers, teammates, UCI, France's Ministry of sports, IOC, DCos, and so on were all in on it ...... but you DEFLECT!!!




and I keep on pointing to this to make you understand that it is not that hard to beat if enough people are in on it:

"There are three pillars in which the whole TUE system rests."

“The first is an honest athlete, the second one is that you need a doctor with the integrity and the ethics to not also manipulate the system, and the third one is that you need credible oversight from the sport’s governing body and then WADA,” he said. “If any one of those three things fails, then the TUE system can be abused.”


Hard to hide?
Finally, we more than likely wouldn't even have known about the banned IVs if it was not for Manny's team pointing out that they want to know if Floyd's getting TUEs!!!


and as you are aware, Floyd was not refused the RETRO TUE so WADA doesn't even have to review or look at the case .... and as you know, WADA official stated that they were not monitoring Floyd's case since the NSAC were not even a signatory of the ....



Oh and Floyd was being tested for a few weeks at a time ... oh, it was so hard on Floyd to cheat compared to athletes who can be tested any time during the 365 days of the year.


If there were all those restrictions, we would be hearing about an investigation to be sure that it was all on the up and up with Floyd. Lance, UCI actually went thru that .... not USADA not Floyd!!!

Restrictions? I can go on but ....



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[ADP02]

1. Wait, what? Part of your “evidence” is that Floyd was not expecting to be tested so close to the fight?


Where is the proof of that???

2. According to your expert analysis, Floyd shouldn’t have been dehydrated for the Mosley fight, right? Did you ever answer if he went running the morning of the test? How about did he have the runs? How about when did they take the first urine sample, which to any person with common sense would be right away. There goes your delay theory.

3. It’s YOU that doesn’t like Novizky’s statement. He told you exactly what he thought of Floyd’s cas me and you are deflecting. You think 3 doctors can’t take 2 days (not sure why you keep saying one when I already corrected you on this. But even 1 day would be enough) to assess if someone needs an IV for dehydration?

And don’t dare bring up thresholds. I thought you learned your lesson

Now answer my questions and stop ducking and deflecting!!!

NO you are not getting it ... DEFLECTOR CITY!!!




1. Going by past fights, how many times was Floyd tested at the weigh-in?


2. I keep on asking you, what are you talking about with Mosley?


You would take a bullet for your hero!
Floyd gave 3 simples BS excuses. Did he say he had the runs?


Still, even though you DEFLECTED, logically, if you have the runs and become extremely dehydrated, you tend to lose weight not come in as you usually do for a freaking decade! Ooops!




3. Novitsky contradicts himself while trying to protect USADA!!!

Novistky says that besides the TUEC there is going to be a thorough vetting process.

Now comes Floyd's case ...... CRICKETS!!!! No vetting process. As I stated, there was a TON of stuff to investigate!!!!



THRESHOLDS!!!
You went back to a case from 2003/2004 and tried to convince people that there were no thresholds. The case wasn't even about WADA. Judge 3 believed you even though you know that the case had loads of statements where both side said ..... THRESHOLDs!!!

Lance was just below the "threshold" .... that is what they meant by THRESHOLD. Lance had a su****ious sample because he was just below the threshold. You said either there was or was not .... that was a shot at YOU and the Mayweather Mafia team!!! Ooops!


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Lol..Christine Ayotte claims she read interviews covered in MMA media accounts. WADA's **** Pound (who Conte claims destroys records and is very non-transparent) calls Ayotte a great scientist but why didn't she do like real scientists do and check actual scientific journals?

In the following science article discussing the abuse of steroids by police officers, a normal male should have about 1:1 ratio of Testosterone to epitestosterone http://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/...pitestosterone.
However, according to your own link, an AfroAmerican athlete should have an even higher ratio so why is Mayweather's so low? The common explanation is that synthetic steroid use is making him unable to produce testosterone naturally.

Likewise funny that you refuse to believe Conte when he talks of Mayweather's red flags but then you use his explanation of why roids ain't good right before a fight as excusing Mayweather's use of saline IV as a masking agent. If that is so, why do boxer's and other athletes get busted for diuretics right after their competitions? In the Conte video I posted, Conte claims that stimulants are used right before a fight so how do you know Floyd wasn't masking some of the many stimulants, or microdosing some new and better stuff as is usually the case among rich, top of the line Ped users?

Is this the guy your quoting.

[travestyny]

Lol..Christine Ayotte claims she read interviews covered in MMA media accounts. WADA's **** Pound (who Conte claims destroys records and is very non-transparent) calls Ayotte a great scientist but why didn't she do like real scientists do and check actual scientific journals?

In the following science article discussing the abuse of steroids by police officers, a normal male should have about 1:1 ratio of Testosterone to epitestosterone http://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/...pitestosterone.
However, according to your own link, an AfroAmerican athlete should have an even higher ratio so why is Mayweather's low? The common explanation is that synthetic steroid use is making him unable to produce testosterone naturally.

Likewise funny that you refuse to believe Conte when he talks of Mayweather's red flags but then you use his explanation of why roids ain't good right before a fight as excusing Mayweather's use of saline IV as a masking agent. If that is so, why do boxer's and other athletes get busted for diuretics right after their competitions? In the Conte video I posted, Conte claims that stimulants are used right before a fight so how do you know Floyd wasn't masking some of the many stimulants, or microdosing some new and better stuff as is usually the case among rich, top of the line Ped users?

What are you talking about?

1. I showed you the head of a WADA Lab who stated that numbers much lower than Floyd’s aren’t abnormal. Right?

2. Why did you say I’m ignoring Conte? I have no problem with anything Conte said. Wasn’t he the one who kept saying CIR testing would be needed? Well CIR testing was done. So um, what exactly are you attempting to prove again? Do I need to quote Conte saying that?

3. If you want to explain about his sample being tested for dilution, let me know. Otherwise, saying he could be doing something we don’t know about isn’t worth an answer.

Also, maybe you can help explain why USADA would “help” him by creating a papertrail that would be uploaded to WADA’s database. Does it make sense to you?

[travestyny]

Restrictions? Man, what a DEFLECTION!!!!

WADA has pointed out that quite a few NADO's who do follow, tend to be following the protocol by following the minimum that is required.

So to say, USADA can get away with a lot more than you think!


Novitsky said that on top of the TUEC there is more thorough vetting process for RETRO TUEs ..... there was none of that for Floyd. If they would have, there was a ton of information to process and go thru!!!

They read Floyd's doc's note and went with that. IF WADA would check they would just be checking if USADA followed the protocol ...


As stated, for Lance, the tests were done by France's Ministry of sports .... they and IOC found no issues even after the media got a hold of things.

So if this was you back then, you would have said, Lance's doctor, trainers, teammates, UCI, France's Ministry of sports, IOC, DCos, and so on were all in on it ...... but you DEFLECT!!!




and I keep on pointing to this to make you understand that it is not that hard to beat if enough people are in on it:

"There are three pillars in which the whole TUE system rests."

“The first is an honest athlete, the second one is that you need a doctor with the integrity and the ethics to not also manipulate the system, and the third one is that you need credible oversight from the sport’s governing body and then WADA,” he said. “If any one of those three things fails, then the TUE system can be abused.”


Hard to hide?
Finally, we more than likely wouldn't even have known about the banned IVs if it was not for Manny's team pointing out that they want to know if Floyd's getting TUEs!!!


and as you are aware, Floyd was not refused the RETRO TUE so WADA doesn't even have to review or look at the case .... and as you know, WADA official stated that they were not monitoring Floyd's case since the NSAC were not even a signatory of the ....



Oh and Floyd was being tested for a few weeks at a time ... oh, it was so hard on Floyd to cheat compared to athletes who can be tested any time during the 365 days of the year.


If there were all those restrictions, we would be hearing about an investigation to be sure that it was all on the up and up with Floyd. Lance, UCI actually went thru that .... not USADA not Floyd!!!

Restrictions? I can go on but ....



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I’m sorry, but where in this was your answer?

Why create this papertrail and take a sample before the IV if they are paid to help him cheat. Why the **** would you pay someone who takes steps to make it less likely for you to get away with cheating?

Step up and give an answer!!!