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Here's Where All The Floyd Cheat Theories Fail
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Originally posted by travestyny View PostAmen. I second this!!! Let’s see who steps up!
I am dead serious.
We will apply pressure to WADA and the media.
Only thing is, posters won't be able to hide behind a message board.
You gotta put your government name on shyt like this.
They will know who you are.
They will know it is you making the inquiry and accusing a billionaire of cheating.
Let's see if they feel as comfortable under that scenario.
I think he is clean, am sure I can prove it to any rational person and will say so.
But, this needs to be put to rest.
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Originally posted by koolkc107 View PostWe will definitely see.
I am dead serious.
We will apply pressure to WADA and the media.
Only thing is, posters won't be able to hide behind a message board.
You gotta put your government name on shyt like this.
They will know who you are.
They will know it is you making the inquiry and accusing a billionaire of cheating.
Let's see if they feel as comfortable under that scenario.
I think he is clean, am sure I can prove it to any rational person and will say so.
But, this needs to be put to rest.
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Look how ****** your responses are. This is utter shlt.
Originally posted by ADP02 View Postpop up? Is this a new way of DEFLECTING?
I see another 6 pages today.... can I respond? LOL
1. Lots of solid proof that Floyd didn't require no BANNED IVs!!!
Lance dealt with and without WADA! It didn't make no difference!
It's all relevant. Testing was new for the corticosteroid that Lance got caught with. It was just introduced by UCI days before Lance got tested POSITIVE!
Relatively new EPO tests came back with su****ious results for Lance.
At that point the cheater re-evaluates, tweaks his cheating program and hopes to not get caught. If someone like Floyd and Lance get caught, they have a back-up plan .... YES, even if they didn't require no BS RETRO TUE!!!
and you basically DEFLECTED my point!!! BOTH Delayed and both used BANNED IVs
Oh, and more ******ity. Lance got busted when improved tests came out. Did those improved tests suddenly disappear? Or is this where you speculate that Floyd has some kind of brand nu nu drugs that most don't know about to try to fit your dumb agenda. Maybe this is why Manny has Back Acne and had his arm fixed up so quickly, hmm? Again. This is dumb.
Deflected your point? No buddy. Your point holds no weight. Lance delayed. Floyd gives a partial sample...then there is a delay before the next sample. All in front of a DCO. Huge difference, don't you think? Of course you don't. Seriously, you need to just admit to yourself that you are mentally ******ed. Only you can keep deflecting to Lance from 2003-2010 with Floyd in 2015.
Last I checked, Lance didn't give a partial sample before the IV. Not did he have his retro application checked into by 3 independent doctors. Deflect that, bltch.
Originally posted by ADP02 View Post2. No you say? No to what? What a DEFLECTOR!!!
Yes, it is a cat and mouse game. my point 1 above brings up some examples but there are many many more examples.
Yes, the percentage of athletes caught remains relatively the same!
Yes, in 2025, testing will be better than 2015 and cheaters will adapt and find a different way to cheat.
Yes, other athletes such as Lance could be tested 365 days a year. Floyd knows and actually SETS his own START and END DATEs!
Originally posted by ADP02 View Post55%? What is your point?
That athletes do not try to dilute their blood? That diluting cannot bring down HT levels? Sorry but they can and they have done so.
Originally posted by ADP02 View PostHow about numbers that are more relevant?
Floyd's weight was relatively the same and Floyd admits to making weight EASILY and his walking weight is close to 150, 148 and has been for a decade? Now add that USADA/WADA state to drink 2 cups per pound lost when dehydrated.
Floyd said he was extremely dehydrated due to his 3 BS excuses.
Do you agree that it makes no sense????
150 lbs - 30 days out
149 lbs - 2 weeks out
148 lbs - 1 week out
146 lbs - hours before IV
If you are still not sure, check out the gifs below of Floyd drinking fluids (alternative ... CHECK!)
Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
3. Floyd or Lance? LOL
There are multiple scenarios. Some PEDs are cycled off, some are micro dosed, some athletes use a combination of drugs at micro dose levels so they cannot get caught unless the DCO surprises them and shows up at the door soon after and gets the athletes sample. Floyd delayed giving his full sample 6+ hours and used BANNED IVs .... drrrrrr
Originally posted by ADP02 View Postand YES, Floyd DOES DICTATE his START and END DATEs .... Lance couldn't and many other athletes cannot YET, they use PEDs and yet you keep on making it sound like Floyd cannot have been using PEDs? WEIRD!!!!
Originally posted by ADP02 View PostDEFLECTOR: So do you think that Floyd took out blood for a Vampire facial before a fight? He did some of the steps, such as extract blood put it in a centrifuge (Ooops) .... but to make his eyes pretty just before a fight???? LOL
The dude is sitting around with sunglasses on. HE IS A PROFESSIONAL BOXER. You think he is so dumb that he is going to voluntarily tell a group of people that he is doing PED's instead of saying, "I made a mistake in sparring." Yea. Yet another dumb piece of shlt from you.
Vampire facial shlt was already debunked. What else you got?
Originally posted by ADP02 View Post4. So now you are DEFLECTING to paper trail, deflecto? Lance, Floyd still had to use them BANNED IV bags, still BOTH left a paper trail, deflecto!
Originally posted by ADP02 View Post5. DEFLECTO, make me stop YOU right here. All you post is how IMPOSSIBLE it would have been for Floyd to have passed TESTs but time and time again, this can be proven by checking out what other cheats did in the past. So when I do bring up scenarios, you laugh but then I back most of them up with true events that occurred.
Originally posted by ADP02 View Posta) Cheaters can make mistakes or bad decisions or use PEDs at the wrong time? Yes! I posted an admitted cheat who said this!
Originally posted by ADP02 View Postb) Does delaying help the cheater pass a test? Yup! Some PEDs stay in your system for hours so if you delay 6+ hours that can easily go from a positive to a negative result!
Originally posted by ADP02 View Postc) You bring up maintaining a high HT. Well, I bring it up as a scenario not that that is exactly what Floyd did since there are multiple scenarios but as one of many scenarios since Floyd is the MASTER of when he tells USADA, go ahead and test me .... NOW and stop ....NOW.
Originally posted by ADP02 View Postd) Going back to maintaining artificially high levels. The UCI had thresholds of 50%. If you went over that you were suspended. That is, unless you were able to receive a certificate indicating that you have high levels naturally.
Some athletes did get an exemption (certificate) to be able to cycle while being over the threshold of HT=50. They would get this exemption since they were supposedly naturally high (>50). They would have to be checked monthly to prove that the HT>50 is always occuring. Some of those people later got caught or admitted to using PEDs!!!
So again, not BS as you said.
Originally posted by ADP02 View PostAs for your BS that it is hard to get a TUE from TUEC, that is a load of BS! What does the TUEC base their info on? Floyd's, Lance's or other athletes physician's BS note!!!
Originally posted by ADP02 View PostHere are three pillars in which the whole TUE system rests.
“The first is an honest athlete, the second one is that you need a doctor with the integrity and the ethics to not also manipulate the system, and the third one is that you need credible oversight from the sport’s governing body and then WADA,” he said. “If any one of those three things fails, then the TUE system can be abused.”
Originally posted by ADP02 View PostWhen asked how a case can take so long for a simple IV, Novistky brings up to get your RETRO TUE, it requires that there is a thorough vetting process that can take weeks if not months NOT a rubber stamped one that Floyd received.
Originally posted by ADP02 View Postand now we can see that your cheater Floyd didn't require no BANNED IV .... look at him drinking away!
USADA/WADA/NSAC all say to drink fluids as the alternative and just a couple of cups is sufficient for each pound lost.
As we can both see, Floyd drank adequately and was assisted by Dr Alex Ariza, who Floyd THANKED!!!
Here is Floyd drinking from a 1.5L bottle while Manny drinking from a small bottle. Manny comes in heavier than Floyd on fight night. LOL
Here is Dr Alex Ariza making sure that Floyd is nice and hydrated.
Look at the smile on Floyd's face! LOL
I respond, you DEFLECT ... what is new, DEFLECTO?
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Great. He drank water. Now lets talk about facts.
1. Being physically able to drink is different from it being the best option to treat dehydration. Did he have the shlts?
2. DCO was present.
3. 3 independent doctors approved without having his name on the application.
And up...that's pretty much all there is to it. You enjoying your fantasy?Last edited by travestyny; 10-25-2017, 11:20 AM.
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Originally posted by ADP02 View Post1. So Floyd used drugs too?
Check out those gifs of Floyd drinking away. Floyd was able to use an alternative. STRIKE #1
Or, is it that 4 professional doctors see it one way, and poor little ADP02 sees it another. Yea, in the real world, it's that second one. Who should believe you? Especially you who epically got decapitated in a thunderdome battle but still can't admit it. LMAOOOO! Chump!
Oh, and if you want to tell me why Floyd broke the rules by drinking water in public, but WADA said this about the case:
“For a case that would be monitored by WADA, yes the ISTUE could allow for intravenous infusions to be used in instances of dehydration”
Originally posted by ADP02 View PostFloyd used a BANNED IV STRIKE #2
Originally posted by ADP02 View PostFloyd's weight - We know what it was. Just like his previous fight weights at 147!!! and admits to making the weight EASILY STRIKE #3
Yea. He could easily lie and say he struggled to make weight. Or he could admit that he didn't because....he didn't. He told you why he took the IV. From working, he was dehydrated. His urine was really dark. The only thing left to know is that a WADA spokesperson said that an IV can be used for dehydration. A spokesperson who obviously knows that Mayweather has a mouth and is able to drink water. So basicall..**** off. Again, 4 doctors disagree with you.
Originally posted by ADP02 View PostBUT they are BS EXCUSES as you already know and I mentioned numerous times ... STRIKE #4
Originally posted by ADP02 View PostShows no significant signs of dehydration! STRIKE #5
Vitals and physical exam and Floyd's signed pre-fight form? Floyd was good. Nothing serious was reported by the NSAC physician, the vitals nor Floyd!!!!
STRIKE #6
Have boxers fought under NSAC's jurisdiction dehydrated?
When you answer these instead of deflecting, you'll realize that basing your info off of NSAC is pretty ****ing ******. I'll take my chances with the 3 doctors that didn't have his name on that application that, you know, specialize in this type of stuff. Yea. I'll take that over someone who pinches skin to diagnose dehydration, which apparently has never worked
Originally posted by ADP02 View Post2. When was the last time Oscar came in at 145? Check it up! LET ME KNOW DEFLECTO!!!
Floyd on the other hand made weight EASILY for that weigh in and his previous ones.
yea. another reason why I'll take my chances with those 3 doctors over you.
By the way, De La wouldn't have been down that low if it wasn't for your fake ass idol. LMAO. Loser.
Originally posted by ADP02 View PostWas Oscar making interviews right after getting an IV saying that he is not like others that need to drain their bodies 15-20 lbs? Oh wait, Oscar's walking weight is much higher than 145lbs Ooops!
2. Seems that all of your "proof" is about weight. But you know you've already been dealt with. If Floyd was on camera being dehydrated for Mosley, and he is the same man that doesn't gain lots of weight, that means all there needs to be for you to be wrong is for him to have worked out before the weigh in. Perhaps a run??? Is that why he said he wants to rest his legs?
Yea. You're pretty dumb.
Originally posted by ADP02 View PostFinally, Oscar looked spent jogging around a track. Floyd said he felt strong in there and knew that Manny realized Floyd's strength .... you think Manny realized Oscar's strength even after the IV?
Originally posted by ADP02 View PostFor Oscar, IVs were not banned.
Originally posted by ADP02 View PostFor Floyd, IVs were BANNED. Floyd should have and did use alternatives!
Originally posted by ADP02 View Post3. You keep bringing up Mosley as if that is relelvant. OK show me the video and make your point about this video. Then let me know what that proves when comparing it to a Floyd that makes weight EASILY at a weigh in ....
From what I remember and saw, Floyd was probably training hard at that point. I would have to see it again.
Originally posted by ADP02 View Postand to bring up what you said about me then see your pathetic responses about Floyd being dehydrated .... Oh brother! All I can see is that you are responding like this because it's your hero Floyd.
Maybe I can show you a video of me training and the scales before and after my session. Yup, I'm dehdyrated and can lose quite a bit of weight and your point??? Did I need 2 IVs? NOPE!!!
But keep comparing your workouts to Floyd Mayweather's workouts. Yea. You're pretty dumb.
Originally posted by ADP02 View PostFloyd's weight was 146 against Manny. Similar to Berto which was his next fight and his Juan Marquez fight which was back in 2009 and similar to his other 147 fights!!!
GO DEFLECTO!!!
Originally posted by ADP02 View PostYes but you DEFLECTED.
1. If USADA gets an objective opinion from NSAC physician(s) examination, vital signs, weight, previous weights, Floyd's admission to making weight easily and so on ..... yup, you ignored all that and MORE!
Idiot.
Originally posted by ADP02 View Post2. My understanding is that the week of, he was making weight but AGAIN, you IGNORE all my points. Go read DEFLECTO!!!
Who do you believe was truly dehydrated, Oscar or Floyd?
Before you say that you need all the facts, you have less to go on with Oscar, it appears, due to your 1 liner than Floyd. LOL
Originally posted by ADP02 View Post3. Show me the video ....
Someone training hard and losing weight(dehydrated)? Geez, I'm stumped!
Originally posted by ADP02 View Postand what does that have to do with Floyd at the weigh in?
LMAOOOO. Log off.
Originally posted by ADP02 View Post4. Done(previous post) ... your turn .... and when you are finished (presuming you do not DUCK again) go check out the other posts you DUCKED!!!!
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Originally posted by ADP02 View PostDone... your turn ....
1. What logical reason would Floyd Mayweather have to cycle off of PED's before testing starts, but then cycle back onto PED's throughout training camp when testing is on, as you have suggested? Do you realize that you are suggesting that he is PERPETUALLY on PED's.
2. Option 1:
Floyd Mayweather and Mayweather Promotions, and USADA and all of the people behind it get together, decide that they will allow Mayweather to cheat, and say, "Hey, the best way to do this is to get a physician to tell an incredible lie that the 3 independent TUEC doctors can't see through (don't worry, it will work...if not, we will pay them off), and then we will get the DCO to witness the entire cheating scheme (we'll pay him off too), we'll document everything that happens (don't worry about the paramedic...we'll pay him off), and we'll fill out paperwork to be filed online. We'll send it to WADA as well. Hell, we'll tell Pacquiao about it according to the rules. We'll tell NSAC about it as well. Did I mention we will tell WADA about it. This is going to be great! Don't worry about a thing. Oh yea, we'll take some dirty piss before the IV and have that thrown in to be tested. Don't worryyyyyyy. This is great!
Option 2:
Instead the convo goes, "Hey, Floyd. We're on the way over. Oh, you need to finish up some (wink wink) things? Ok. See you after the weigh-in bud. TBE, Son!"
What logical reason would Mayweather and USADA have for choosing option 1 over option 2? DOES IT MAKE SENSE THAT ANY RATIONAL HUMAN BEING, MUCH LESS MANY INTELLIGENT EXPERTS IN THEIR FIELDS, WOULD CHOOSE OPTION 1 OVER OPTION 2 FOR ANY REASON??? PLEASE EXPLAIN.
Don't even think about DEFLECTING to Lance Armstrong who didn't have a TUE approved by 4 doctors, but only 1. Was not looked into by WADA. Did not have a DCO with him. Did not give a sample before the IV. Yea...you see the difference now?
3. Any proof of the DCO being bad at taking the specific gravity of a urine sample?
That's it. Enjoy
actually, one more:
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Originally posted by ADP02 View Post3. You keep bringing up Mosley as if that is relelvant. OK show me the video and make your point about this video. Then let me know what that proves when comparing it to a Floyd that makes weight EASILY at a weigh in ....
From what I remember and saw, Floyd was probably training hard at that point. I would have to see it again.
A. Do you believe this shows a dehydrated Mayweather? If yes, you believe this because he was working out at the time of the DCO coming, correct?
B. Do you think it's possible that he went on a run or did some other type of work out before the weigh-in? Possibly the night before the weigh in (I think he usually goes running late..around 1am or something) and didn't rehydrate after (why would he rehydrated before a weigh-in)?
C. Do you believe that it's possible that he had become dehydrated in the course of training and because he had to maintain weight, never hydrated back to a normal level?
D. Do you agree that it makes sense that, just as in this example, he gave his partial sample IMMEDIATELY, which means there was no delay on the initial sample.
E. Don't you think the people at WADA are smart enough to know whether testing would be compromised when giving a partial sample immediately and then another sample sometime after?
Let's see if you can answer honestly.Last edited by travestyny; 10-25-2017, 09:23 PM.
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Originally Posted by Shape up View Post
OU MEAN VIA THIS CONTRACT: ******ny post 801
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Mayweather and Pacquiao agree that sections 5, 9-13, 16, 17(a), and 21 of the United States Anti-Doping Agency Protocol for Olympic and Paralympic Movement Testing shall constitute the procedural rules applicable to any Results Management Services provided hereunder. NOW WE WILL ADD THE RESTthese provisions shall APPLY ONLY TO THE EXTENT THEY DO NOT CONFLICT WITH THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT. This provision shall survive termination of this agreement, usada by WADA rules isn't allowed to change anything in protocol or the code, BUT THEY DID do you admit they omitted from both some sections
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Originally posted by Shape up View PostI have read them, it was lies and dribble, you've been proved wrong, usada didn't follow WADA rules gimp
After you decline, remember how I owned you here over and over, yea?
You gonna step up little bltch, or just stay in your place like a good lil poodle?
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Originally posted by Shape up View PostQuote:
Originally Posted by Shape up View Post
OU MEAN VIA THIS CONTRACT: ******ny post 801
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Mayweather and Pacquiao agree that sections 5, 9-13, 16, 17(a), and 21 of the United States Anti-Doping Agency Protocol for Olympic and Paralympic Movement Testing shall constitute the procedural rules applicable to any Results Management Services provided hereunder. NOW WE WILL ADD THE RESTthese provisions shall APPLY ONLY TO THE EXTENT THEY DO NOT CONFLICT WITH THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT. This provision shall survive termination of this agreement, usada by WADA rules isn't allowed to change anything in protocol or the code, BUT THEY DID do you admit they omitted from both some sections
Perma-ban bet? Get your balls out ya purse, homie. Or should I keep leading you to the truth while tugging on your choke chain when you get out of line?
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