Here's Where All The Floyd Cheat Theories Fail

[Shape up]

Your problem is this, C-3PO...

YOU DON'T GET TO DETERMINE WHAT IS OR IS NOT AN EMERGENCY.

None of us do, really.

They got qualified medical personnel for that- like the paramedic who went to Floyd's home and the doctors who reviewed the retroactive TUE.

What Floyd did pretty much followed what's in the WADA code for retroactive TUEs exactly.

Dehydration (and/or if someone is having a problem hydrating properly due to rigorous exercise of a prolonged period) is also not something lay people like yourself get to spitball.

You don't get to say "the paramedic was wrong in giving the IV" or "they should have taken him to the hospital if it was THAT bad" because someone much more qualified medically than you and with eyes on the ground at the time made a decision based on their professional judgement.

That's like me saying "hell, forget about doing rehab like my doctor says, I am going to cure my injured shoulder by swimming in the ocean".

Oh wait...

If it was an emergency then he should have applied for an emergency tue, you amateur, get back in your box

[travestyny]

Your problem is this, C-3PO...

YOU DON'T GET TO DETERMINE WHAT IS OR IS NOT AN EMERGENCY.

None of us do, really.

They got qualified medical personnel for that- like the paramedic who went to Floyd's home and the doctors who reviewed the retroactive TUE.

What Floyd did pretty much followed what's in the WADA code for retroactive TUEs exactly.

Dehydration (and/or if someone is having a problem hydrating properly due to rigorous exercise of a prolonged period) is also not something lay people like yourself get to spitball.

You don't get to say "the paramedic was wrong in giving the IV" or "they should have taken him to the hospital if it was THAT bad" because someone much more qualified medically than you and with eyes on the ground at the time made a decision based on their professional judgement.

That's like me saying "hell, forget about doing rehab like my doctor says, I am going to cure my injured shoulder by swimming in the ocean".

Oh wait...

Ex-****ing-xactly.

Not one of these clowns answered the OP about why they would go this route. It makes no sense.

4 physicians agreed to this and went on record agreeing to this. A record that was sent to WADA and uploaded to a database for more than just WADA and USADA to see even. That's enough to show this conspiracy theory is shlt.

There's simply nothing left to say.

[travestyny]

By the way, you also didn't address this, PROJECTOR DEFLECTOR

Actually there were plenty of people who knew about the IV. If any one of them brought it up, it would spell big trouble for not just Floyd and his doctor, ....... also USADA!!!

SO TELL ME, WHO TURNED OUT TO BE THE DEFLECTOR? THAT WOULD BE YOU. YOU ARE AGREEING WITH THE OP HERE. THAT'S WHY THIS IS OVER!!!!!!

I'm done. Offer still stands. If you want to draft your proposal to WADA, dude, I will help out. We can even write to Fancy Bears and see if they will hack in to see what happened here.

What do you say? I'm dead serious.

[koolkc107]

If it was an emergency then he should have applied for an emergency tue, you amateur, get back in your box

An "emergency TUE"?

Please enlighten me.

Where is an "emergency TUE" in the Code?

I see TUE and retroactive TUE.

No "emergency TUE"

You keep letting anyone who is following this thread know that you don't know WTF you are talking about, Ship out.

Why are you still here?

[Shape up]

That's funny , it's a conflict of interest for fluid to pay usada to do the testing, then for usada to pay the TUEC with fluids money to decide on a retro TUE for mild dehydration, to totally ignore rules in place to avoid this issue, then to omit articles from the code creating substantive change, which is against the rules, to omit protocol, to let this happen in his lounge room, to be compliant to drug cheating, to not comply with the criteria required for a TUE and not 1 shred of compelling information on how it was able to occur, this is just another black eye for usada, just like the morales case where they said they PHONED the NSAC to tell them the results, but never sent an email or fax to confirm the failed drug test, REALLY, they're dirty, Fluid IVayweathers a PED cheat and bought usada to get away with it, Lance IVayweather

[travestyny]

That's funny , it's a conflict of interest for fluid to pay usada to do the testing, then for usada to pay the TUEC with fluids money to decide on a retro TUE for mild dehydration, to totally ignore rules in place to avoid this issue, then to omit articles from the code creating substantive change, which is against the rules, to omit protocol, to let this happen in his lounge room, to be compliant to drug cheating, to not comply with the criteria required for a TUE and not 1 shred of compelling information on how it was able to occur, this is just another black eye for usada, just like the morales case where they said they PHONED the NSAC to tell them the results, but never sent an email or fax to confirm the failed drug test, REALLY, they're dirty, Fluid IVayweathers a PED cheat and bought usada to get away with it, Lance IVayweather

Dude, both Kool and I said that we are willing to help you out in your quest.


I think we have 2 options.


We can write to WADA and see if they will at least give some sort of response..


Or...


We can write to Fancy Bears and see if they will try to hack in and sniff out some info.

What do you think? Serious inquiry. This goes for [MENTION]ADP02[MENTION] as well. If neither of you two are willing to step up, this is done.

All of the essays that you guys wrote here, I don't know why you would decline. What do you think?

[koolkc107]

That's funny , it's a conflict of interest for fluid to pay usada to do the testing, then for usada to pay the TUEC with fluids money to decide on a retro TUE for mild dehydration, to totally ignore rules in place to avoid this issue, then to omit articles from the code creating substantive change, which is against the rules, to omit protocol, to let this happen in his lounge room, to be compliant to drug cheating, to not comply with the criteria required for a TUE and not 1 shred of compelling information on how it was able to occur, this is just another black eye for usada, just like the morales case where they said they PHONED the NSAC to tell them the results, but never sent an email or fax to confirm the failed drug test, REALLY, they're dirty, Fluid IVayweathers a PED cheat and bought usada to get away with it, Lance IVayweather

There is no evidence for a single thing you have said here.

You've pulled ALL of it from your arse.

Even the part about Floyd paying USADA is technically wrong since they were paid BY BOTH FIGHTERS.

What evidence do you have that USADA paid the TUE doctors?

How can you say Floyd was mildly dehydrated when medical professionals, both on the scene and in review of the evidence, felt an IV was appropriate?

You have been shown that EVERYTHING- including the contract- was WADA compliant, so what proof do you have that anything was omitted?

You have been shown ad nauseum that there was nothing out of the ordinary for a IV to be performed by a paramedic as part of an emergency call made by that paramedic.

Let me ask you something, Ship out.

Say it was you that wasn't feeling well and they called an ambulance to your house.

If they needed to give you an IV and gave you the choice of getting it in a hospital or right there in your home, which would you choose?

See, it is easy to point fingers and forget we are dealing with a person.

But, if you are going to accuse a person- not to mention several organizations- of cheating and foul play, you need to have something (anything!) that lends weight to what you say.

Speculation and innuendo cannot beat cold, hard facts.

[travestyny]

just like the morales case where they said they PHONED the NSAC to tell them the results, but never sent an email or fax to confirm the failed drug test, REALLY, they're dirty,

See, this is what I mean. If you stop and do some research, you would be much better off.


CONFIRMATION THAT USADA INFORMED GOLDEN BOY ON OCTOBER 16TH THAT MORALES FAILED, AND INFORMED NYSAC ON OCTOBER 17TH.

ARTICLE IS DATED OCTOBER 18TH.

FIGHT TOOK PLACE OCTOBER 20TH.

Richard Schaefer, CEO for Golden Boy Promotions, has informed BoxingScene.com that his company was advised by USADA [U.S. Anti-Doping Agency] that "irregularities" were discovered in a random drug test taken by former three division champion Erik Morales.

"On Tuesday night, USADA informed us that there were irregularities in a test from Erik Morales," Schaefer told BoxingScene.com. "On Wednesday, USADA informed the respective camps and the [New York State Athletic] Commission as well. This process is going to have to play itself out."
http://www.boxingscene.com/usada-fin...ug-test--58332

Do you admit you were wrong about this?

[koolkc107]

Dude, both Kool and I said that we are willing to help you out in your quest.


I think we have 2 options.


We can write to WADA and see if they will at least give some sort of response..


Or...


We can write to Fancy Bears and see if they will try to hack in and sniff out some info.

What do you think? Serious inquiry. This goes for [MENTION]ADP02[MENTION] as well. If neither of you two are willing to step up, this is done.

All of the essays that you guys wrote here, I don't know why you would decline. What do you think?

It's like I laid it out the first time- and why I had a feeling they would not do it.

If we decide to make this a WADA and media crusade, none of us are going to be able to hide much behind a message board.

Our governments are going to be out there for all to see.

But, we will have instant gravitas.

Think about it: a group of diverse boxing fans- some pro, some con- but united to find out the truth, whatever that truth may be.

All they need do is write the info, come up with the arguments that are fact based.

We edit them and check for accuracy, with them having the final word- as long as the arguments are provable.

Then we all pound away at WADA and the media.

[travestyny]

It's like I laid it out the first time- and why I had a feeling they would not do it.

If we decide to make this a WADA and media crusade, none of us are going to be able to hide much behind a message board.

Our governments are going to be out there for all to see.

But, we will have instant gravitas.

Think about it: a group of diverse boxing fans- some pro, some con- but united to find out the truth, whatever that truth may be.

All they need do is write the info, come up with the arguments that are fact based.

We edit them and check for accuracy, with them having the final word- as long as the arguments are provable.

Then we all pound away at WADA and the media.

Yup. Sounds perfect to me. I wonder why they won't step up! Hmm.