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  • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
    I believe that I answered partially but didn't have the time to respond fully and also asked you to provide a link for Mosley video so that I can respond knowing what exactly am I responding to .... and as I said, if it's even relevant!!!
    What are you talking about????

    You didn’t answer question 1
    You didn’t answer question 2
    You didn’t answer question 3

    You answered one small part of question 4, only (b) of that question, not well, but I’d give you a pass on that.

    And I already told you I don’t have a link for Mosley. I made the gif. What else do you need to see from it? I can make more gifs if necessary.

    Stop playing ****** and answer the questions, dude!
    Last edited by travestyny; 10-29-2017, 11:29 PM.

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    • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
      The event already occurred so there was no reason to fast track the BS RETRO TUE!!!

      Novitsky said that there is a thorough vetting process for RETRO TUEs that can take weeks if not months. The statement occurred when he was asked why a guy who took an IV is taking months to get sorted out.


      Do you understand what is meant by the minimum? That USADA does all the steps that is expected of them but USADA doesn't follow thru with it like they could have.

      So Floyd and his doctor come up with the BS excuses then that is all the USADA TUEC has to go on.

      Here is but one example:
      "In July 2015, Rupp and his coach Alberto Salazar were accused by former members of the Oregon Project of manipulating the TUE system for performance gain and faking symptoms in an effort to be prescribed legal thyroid medications. Those medications could help with a runner’s energy levels, allowing an athlete to train with more intensity and volume. Rupp, who won the bronze medal at the 2016 Olympic marathon, and Salazar have strongly denied those accusations."




      "There are three pillars in which the whole TUE system rests.

      “The first is an honest athlete, the second one is that you need a doctor with the integrity and the ethics to not also manipulate the system, and the third one is that you need credible oversight from the sport’s governing body and then WADA,” he said.
      If any one of those three things fails, then the TUE system can be abused.”



      and then there is the fact that WADA is not even likely to review the BS RETRO TUE as there was no request, no monetary compensation and as WADA representative said, they were not even monitoring the case of Floyd Mayweather.



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      Originally posted by travestyny View Post
      You are trying so damn hard. Get out of here with this bullshlt.

      1. If USADA does enough to be minimally compliant with WADA, THEN THEY ARE COMPLIANT WITH WADA AND WADA IS SATISFIED. You're sitting here trying to argue that USADA didn't do enough when WADA disagrees. That's pretty ****ing dumb. Again, this is the World Anti-Doping Agency. They aren't trying to make it easy to cheat, fool.

      2. The TUEC is to complete the application ASAP. Need proof of this?

      From the ISTUE:


      2 ****ing days for 3 doctors to figure out if an athlete can have an IV. I think that's more than enough!

      And you're stlll on this dumb shlt saying that Floyd's doctor was able to trick 3 specialists. LMAOOOOOO. Get the **** out of here.

      These are ****ing professionals, dude. What are you smoking????

      From the ISTUE:


      Plus you're wrong about this having to be an emergency, or an acute situation. But I'll leave that for when you ANSWER MY ****ING QUESTIONS!!! I'm really shocked you are blatantly ducking now!!!


      My previous post pretty much covers what WADA means by some ADO's provide minimum compliancy ... You think that means it's OK and that they are satisfied? At least you made me laugh!!!


      You DEFLECT.
      Where was the thorough vetting process for the BS RETRO TUE? What will the USADA TUEC read? Are you going to say that it's what Floyd and his doctor provided???

      What's the difference than if Lance's doctor provides a RETRO TUE note for Lance's BS ailment? NOTHING much when the doctor's note can deceive the people who read it!!!

      Novisky said it takes from several weeks to months due to the thorough vetting process.

      The point is that IN THIS CASE there is a lot more information than what Floyd's doctor will put. This is not always the case but it is in Floyd's case!

      Floyd's doctor will avoid putting on the form what was Floyd's weight just before and for the last 30 days and that Floyd makes weight EASILY, does the NSAC physician agree, vital signs ALL NORMAL and so on. Again, it will be only based on Floyd's doctor's note!

      Trick 3 TUEC members? I just posted an example. Are you saying that the TUEC members always get it right and cannot be fooled or get it WRONG? then why is there even a chance to appeal the verdict several times and there have been nunmerous cases where the ADO's verdict has been changed???

      USADA's investigation would be required but they didn't do any of that. The BS RETRO TUE was rubber stamped. USADA did do that with others. While I wasn't expecting a Lance Armstrong type of investigation, I would expect USADA to get all related information that both you and I can easily get and with an investigation, they can get even more!!!




      Emergency? The head of WADA TUE Committee says that Floyd shouldn't have received a BS RETRO TUE and should have just drank fluids. ELSE, if he was so severely dehydrated, he would be in no shape to fight!!!

      Go check up my previous post. Floyd's weight difference was negligible!!!!
      The PLAN of action .. .drink more fluids than usual!

      Floyd drank adequately enough to say that he was no longer mildly dehydrated .... and some do not even consider it to be dehydration when it's such a minor difference!


      "They gave Floyd a RETRO TUE and only came to light 21 days after the fight. Wow, USADA is doing that because they are getting paid. USADA is supposed to be a body that is supposed to be completely independent. Wow, its a murky world. Yes it is murky and quite frankly sensed disappointment.

      "When it comes to RETRO TUEs". Made only when you do not have enough time to apply. Lets say someone gets injured on the field and goes to surgery that night .... and post-op they give him drugs. Its totally acceptable. You get the anesthetists report, the surgeons report then you put all that on the TUE form. Perfectly acceptable. That is what a RETRO TUE is all about. An URGENT .... Someone has an anaphylactic allergic reaction and needs the drugs (URGENTLY). Right, that is not someone who is going to play at tennis open final or race at the Tour de France. No (its not for that). That is when I challenge the system. Its a red flag."

      "I TOTALLY AGREE. It doesn't smell right to me. To enable you to compete, you get a RETRO TUE to get an IV? What were they giving him and why couldn't they rehydrate him orally, clinically, that is what we do. You do not need an IV unless you are vomiting and have diarrheas and cannot drink orally and if that all happens then you will not be entering the ring against Manny Pacquiao."




      So WADA says to get an IV if one is mildly dehydrated? 45-60 minutes after drinking, he wasn't even that!


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      • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        My previous post pretty much covers what WADA means by some ADO's provide minimum compliancy ... You think that means it's OK and that they are satisfied? At least you made me laugh!!!


        You DEFLECT.
        Where was the thorough vetting process for the BS RETRO TUE? What will the USADA TUEC read? Are you going to say that it's what Floyd and his doctor provided???

        What's the difference than if Lance's doctor provides a RETRO TUE note for Lance's BS ailment? NOTHING much when the doctor's note can deceive the people who read it!!!

        Novisky said it takes from several weeks to months due to the thorough vetting process.

        The point is that IN THIS CASE there is a lot more information than what Floyd's doctor will put. This is not always the case but it is in Floyd's case!

        Floyd's doctor will avoid putting on the form what was Floyd's weight just before and for the last 30 days and that Floyd makes weight EASILY, does the NSAC physician agree, vital signs ALL NORMAL and so on. Again, it will be only based on Floyd's doctor's note!

        Trick 3 TUEC members? I just posted an example. Are you saying that the TUEC members always get it right and cannot be fooled or get it WRONG? then why is there even a chance to appeal the verdict several times and there have been nunmerous cases where the ADO's verdict has been changed???

        USADA's investigation would be required but they didn't do any of that. The BS RETRO TUE was rubber stamped. USADA did do that with others. While I wasn't expecting a Lance Armstrong type of investigation, I would expect USADA to get all related information that both you and I can easily get and with an investigation, they can get even more!!!




        Emergency? The head of WADA TUE Committee says that Floyd shouldn't have received a BS RETRO TUE and should have just drank fluids. ELSE, if he was so severely dehydrated, he would be in no shape to fight!!!

        Go check up my previous post. Floyd's weight difference was negligible!!!!
        The PLAN of action .. .drink more fluids than usual!

        Floyd drank adequately enough to say that he was no longer mildly dehydrated .... and some do not even consider it to be dehydration when it's such a minor difference!


        "They gave Floyd a RETRO TUE and only came to light 21 days after the fight. Wow, USADA is doing that because they are getting paid. USADA is supposed to be a body that is supposed to be completely independent. Wow, its a murky world. Yes it is murky and quite frankly sensed disappointment.

        "When it comes to RETRO TUEs". Made only when you do not have enough time to apply. Lets say someone gets injured on the field and goes to surgery that night .... and post-op they give him drugs. Its totally acceptable. You get the anesthetists report, the surgeons report then you put all that on the TUE form. Perfectly acceptable. That is what a RETRO TUE is all about. An URGENT .... Someone has an anaphylactic allergic reaction and needs the drugs (URGENTLY). Right, that is not someone who is going to play at tennis open final or race at the Tour de France. No (its not for that). That is when I challenge the system. Its a red flag."

        "I TOTALLY AGREE. It doesn't smell right to me. To enable you to compete, you get a RETRO TUE to get an IV? What were they giving him and why couldn't they rehydrate him orally, clinically, that is what we do. You do not need an IV unless you are vomiting and have diarrheas and cannot drink orally and if that all happens then you will not be entering the ring against Manny Pacquiao."




        So WADA says to get an IV if one is mildly dehydrated? 45-60 minutes after drinking, he wasn't even that!


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        Dude, you are like a broken record. Same shlt for over a year...

        But check this out.... How did you just tell me you didn’t have time to answer my questions.... but you just wrote me this ****ing essay


        STOP DUCKING AND DEFLECTING AND JUST ANSWER THE QUESTIONS!!!

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        • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post

          So you want me to respond in bits and pieces. OK no problem.


          Point #1



          Are you serious! Spew?

          You tried to spew that after the weigh-in, the IV was the DCO's and USADA's call not Floyd and his doctor.
          Can you show me the link that proves your nonesense? Next time provide the link and quote!!! Oh wait, you cannot because YOU ARE WRONG!!!

          I at least provided a quote that contradicts your nonsense. That was not enough for you? LOL




          This must be the 5th time I ask, do you have a link or response or were you just WRONG and that is why you DEFLECTED?



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          Originally posted by koolkc107 View Post
          Actually, what I really want- and have been asking you for for days now- is for you to write a coherent essay breaking down point by point exactly how and why Floyd cheated, since you are so sure he did.

          You write all kinds of drivel here, true.

          But, it's fragmented, semi-legible, and disjointed.

          Don't you see how easy it is for me to disrupt you when you post like that?


          Write something concrete, iron clad.

          Write it concisely and without the need for exaggerated font sizes and colors.

          Let your words make your point.

          We'll send your essay to media outlets and reopen this case.

          Yawn ..... You Floyd fans will say anything to protect your HERO Floyd.



          Which part of the previous post (See above) did you NOT understand? I can explain away!!!!

          Oh, you are deflecting perhaps since you know that you were WRONG!!!



          You can just admit to that so that we can then move on to the next snippet that you do not understand!






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          • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
            Dude, you are like a broken record. Same shlt for over a year...

            But check this out.... How did you just tell me you didn’t have time to answer my questions.... but you just wrote me this ****ing essay


            STOP DUCKING AND DEFLECTING AND JUST ANSWER THE QUESTIONS!!!


            I'm just catching up in reading the previous pages and responded .... I guess you do not like my response? Got it!


            OK, so you do not have the link but have a gif to the video? OK ....


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            • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
              I'm just catching up in reading the previous pages and responded .... I guess you do not like my response? Got it!


              OK, so you do not have the link but have a gif to the video? OK ....


              .
              Catching up??? My questions have been sitting around for days, before any of the other posts you are answering. You are clearly ducking and deflecting. ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTIONS!!!

              And what part don’t you understand? The 24/7 was on my hard drive. I chopped a piece out of it and made a gif. What is so hard to understand about that? You’d rather talk about how I made a gif than answering my 4 questions, clearly!
              Last edited by travestyny; 10-30-2017, 12:22 AM.

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              • Originally posted by adp02 View Post
                i'm just catching up in reading the previous pages and responded .... I guess you do not like my response? Got it!


                Ok, so you do not have the link but have a gif to the video? Ok ....


                .
                Original post was on page 83. Now tell me...why are you ducking and deflecting, even when i asked you specifically to answer it first after i answered 2 of your essays completely.

                You are ducking hiding and deflecting!

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                • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                  Guess what???? You come here every single day. Why haven't you answered yet? "I gave you more than 24 hours....and counting." Where is your answer. This is what I mean by you popping in, writing essays that say the same thing over and over and over again, and leaving without answering any questions. You come back everyday....duck...then when you reply you leave out any questions you were asked, call people deflector, write the same ****ing essay...rinse and repeat.


                  ANSWER THE ****ING QUESTIONS!
                  1. No, you are saying that Floyd is always on PEDs.

                  I'm saying that there are multiple possible scenarios!!! Did I not???????


                  Something tells me that you took a comment made by someone like Conte and think that is what all PED users do? Cycle off before training camp? Let me know where you got this idea that Floyd couldn't possibly be micro dosing during his training camp? Or any drug that stays in your system for just hours? Are you saying that this is not possible? WOW!



                  FYI - Some drugs it's better to be cycling off of it before testing commences since there is a higher probability of getting caught since it stays in your system for a longer period. With some of these drugs, the effects last a much longer time so its OK to cycle off. So why take the risks .... unless you know of how to mask the drug!


                  but

                  then there are other drugs which are better if you continue to take due to its effects and since they have a lower probability of getting caught because they are out of your system relatively quickly. Some hours, some days. If you micro dose on some of these PEDs, it's out of your system very quickly.

                  As I said before, with some drugs, by the time the DCO comes knocking at the door the DCO may be too late. Sometimes the DCO shows up when you do not expect them. So you try to delay as much as possible. Maybe only an hour is sufficient (delay) but you drag it out as much as you can to be on the safe side. Floyd was allowed to delay 6+ hours!






                  2. What are you talking about? Athletes try to fool the system all the time.



                  There are three pillars in which the whole TUE system rests.

                  “The first is an honest athlete, the second one is that you need a doctor with the integrity and the ethics to not also manipulate the system, and the third one is that you need credible oversight from the sport’s governing body and then WADA,” he said. “If any one of those three things fails, then the TUE system can be abused.”


                  Here is a case where there are witnesses that know the truth yet you think that USADA TUEC gets it right every time? If done right, they just see what the athlete's doctor wants to show them:
                  "In July 2015, Rupp and his coach Alberto Salazar were accused by former members of the Oregon Project of manipulating the TUE system for performance gain and faking symptoms in an effort to be prescribed legal thyroid medications. Those medications could help with a runner’s energy levels, allowing an athlete to train with more intensity and volume. Rupp, who won the bronze medal at the 2016 Olympic marathon, and Salazar have strongly denied those accusations."




                  Options 1 & 2: Sorry but other athletes (see above example) can do it even with no help besides the doctor of the athlete. The difference here is that Floyd pays off USADA big time.

                  So USADA avoids thoroughly vetting which is just one example of what USADA should have done but DID NOT.

                  Kinda leads into "Option 3" below




                  You forgot this:
                  Option 3 - USADA thoroughly vets Floyd and finds out:
                  - Floyd's weight: There are stats for 30 days. Floyd weighed relatively the same!!! RETRO TUE REJECTED RIGHT THERE!!!

                  - Double checks with Floyd's Vitals ..... ALL NORMAL!!!! RETRO TUE REJECTED RIGHT THERE!!!

                  - Checks with Floyd's pre-fight form ..... No medical conditions reported, ALL NORMAL!!!! RETRO TUE REJECTED RIGHT THERE!!!

                  - Interviews NSAC physician ..... They agree since they checked Floyd's vitals and more. Floyd showed no significant signs of dehydration, ALL NORMAL!!!! RETRO TUE REJECTED RIGHT THERE!!!

                  - Video of Floyd saying that he walks around at 150, 148 and doesn't dehydrate his body like others .... says life is great. This was after Floyd gets the BANNED IV!!! RETRO TUE REJECTED RIGHT THERE!!!

                  - Video of Floyd BS excuses which contradicts his statements of the past 5 years. For Manny, giving blood is a bad excuse but for Floyd its an excuse to get BANNED METHOD??? WTF!!! RETRO TUE REJECTED RIGHT THERE!!!

                  - Video of Floyd saying that for his FINAL DAYS, he would be relaxing and going to the gym just a little bit to stay sharp. NO CRAZY WORKOUTs that can drain Floyd like his BS excuses!!! Floyd is a LIAR!!! RETRO TUE REJECTED RIGHT THERE!!!

                  BUT THERE IS MORE if USADA thoroughly vets Floyd
                  - If Floyd says he required it at a time where heavy training was over, did Floyd use IVs before? It would take time but this would need to be investigated.

                  - WADA says that if there are alternatives, to use that not BANNED IVs. USADA can do an investigation including what the DCO saw and videos. Was Floyd able to drink fluids? YES!!! Did Floyd drink fluids? YES!!! RETRO TUE REJECTED RIGHT THERE!!!

                  - Simple MATH - Makes no sense!!! Weighed in at 146 and previously week weighed in at 148 and week before that 149. If you do NOT drink anything, the math already doesn't add up!!! RETRO TUE REJECTED RIGHT THERE!!!
                  BUT Floyd DID DRINK adequately! 146 + drinking plenty of fluids = 147? 148? 149? RETRO TUE REJECTED RIGHT THERE!!! Floyd eats = 150? 151?


                  and I'm sure that USADA could have found out more good info!!!






                  3.
                  a) The Nick Diaz case, the WADA accredited SMRTL came back with Specific Gravity readings that are below the recommended SG values. It made the sample invalid.

                  b) LABs test too for Specific Gravity. Why duplicate the process. You know why.

                  c) There has been studies where the same urine sample was given to different testers. There was a difference in SG values.

                  d) There can be differences due to the variables that can include urine temperature, urine sample, .....


                  e) "In our experience, SG measured by the refractometer is consistently more accurate than the reagent strip. For the clinician who is interpreting urine SG results, it is important to be aware of these limitations and understand the reasons for possible potential errors of each particular method."


                  f) Remember that Floyd was drinking adequately way before he received an IV. Alex Ariza has been known to keep his athletes hydrated well. Floyd Mayweather would not be an exception. We have the video clips to prove all of this.


                  "Undetectable EPO concentrations may also occur at early times after hyperhydration at all hydration levels .


                  In addition, even in normal PK profile, undetectable EPO may also occur due to circadian rhythm of urine production


                  Hyper hydration affects at all hydration levels"


                  g) What was really in the IV and what did Floyd drink/eat during that long delay? Anything to keep the Specific Gravity values just above the limit?
                  or
                  h) May produce a darker color of urine? IV had vitamins that can change the color but what else? What else did he eat? Beets can change the color of the urine a lot, for example.
                  or
                  i) Floyd perhaps wanted a 2nd or 3rd crack at urinating into a cup. Perhaps he was unsuccessful the first time and wanted that opportunity so that he can contaminate (mask) the urine sample as other athletes have done in the past.

                  j) Finally, it's not mandatory that the DCO take or should I say, have a SG reading. If Floyd is having trouble even producing a urine sample, then there would be no urine left over to test for SG ... DCO would put a note that its OK due to Floyd's BS dehydration and expect a TUE note from the FLoyd's doctor to explain all this.

                  k) If lets say there is a low specific gravity(below the acceptable limit) and DCO asks Floyd to redo, then that would be even better for FLoyd whose goal could be to just delay as much as possible and get his urine as dilute as possible. The more delays and the more dilute, the better chance that the drug will not be detectable. Yes, even if the value is above the limit it's still more dilute and better chance to be undetectable as time goes by!

                  l) How long did this take? 6+ hours!!! Plus the time that elapsed since Floyd took his PEDs. More than enough time .....




                  4. I answered this already below ....

                  But how can someone not be able to give urine for all that time while drinking all the fluids that Floyd drank and Floyd made weight EASILY?









                  Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  OK, so you found the video. Let me see what you got (link to video) and what is your question that relates to Floyd Mayweather on the day of a weigh-in?


                  Here is pretty much all you need to know though.

                  1) Did Floyd have a relatively light work out the night before the weigh in to stay SHARP and perhaps go over his game plan?

                  OF COURSE that is more than possible. In fact, that would be similar to what Floyd said in his interviews during his final days before the fight!!! A little bit at the gym to stay sharp.


                  Was he crazy enough to exhaust himself and drain himself to the point that he is not just extremely dehydrated at that point, he would be even more dehydrated later the next day? Nope, that doesn't make any sense for someone as experienced as Floyd and who is being monitored by Alex Ariza!!!

                  Alez Ariza makes sure that his athletes are very well hydrated and I'm sure that he put extra effort for Floyd. Ariza even went to Memo Heredia to "consult" with him!!!


                  2) But is that what Floyd admits to or does he boast that his walking weight is just 150, 148 and said this right after getting the IV? Oooops!!!!




                  "I'm not one particular fighter that has drained himself 20 or 30 pounds. I'm a fighter that walks around at 150, 148...I'm extremely happy with everything...right now, my house is real, real peaceful and that's the way I like it," stated undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather, who invited FightHype.com into his home less than 24 hours before he steps into the ring to face Manny Pacquiao"





                  Who did Floyd fight before Manny? Oh that would be Maidana. Check this out and how this smashes any and all of your BS .... You just love taking that bullet for your hero Floyd.


                  Floyd tells you that he makes weight EASILY. Remember?



                  "FightHype.com got an exclusive invite to hang out with undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd "Money" Mayweather a day before for his May 3 title unification with WBA welterweight champion Marcos Maidana. Check out the scene as Mayweather orders a massive 5-course breakfast to help pack on the pounds before he gets set to make the 147-pound weight limit at Friday's weigh-in."







                  OR how about this:
                  "FLOYD MAYWEATHER REVEALS HIS PLANS FOR FINAL DAYS LEADING UP TO PACQUIAO SHOWDOWN"

                  "I'm just at home relaxing...watching playoff basketball, watching movies, and just, you know, go to the gym a little bit and shake out ...meditate, sit down, cool out," stated undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather, who talked about what's in store for him in the final days leading up to his May 2 showdown with Manny Pacquiao"





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                  • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    1. No, you are saying that Floyd is always on PEDs.

                    I'm saying that there are multiple possible scenarios!!! Did I not???????


                    Something tells me that you took a comment made by someone like Conte and think that is what all PED users do? Cycle off before training camp? Let me know where you got this idea that Floyd couldn't possibly be micro dosing during his training camp? Or any drug that stays in your system for just hours? Are you saying that this is not possible? WOW!



                    FYI - Some drugs it's better to be cycling off of it before testing commences since there is a higher probability of getting caught since it stays in your system for a longer period. With some of these drugs, the effects last a much longer time so its OK to cycle off. So why take the risks .... unless you know of how to mask the drug!


                    but

                    then there are other drugs which are better if you continue to take due to its effects and since they have a lower probability of getting caught because they are out of your system relatively quickly. Some hours, some days. If you micro dose on some of these PEDs, it's out of your system very quickly.

                    As I said before, with some drugs, by the time the DCO comes knocking at the door the DCO may be too late. Sometimes the DCO shows up when you do not expect them. So you try to delay as much as possible. Maybe only an hour is sufficient (delay) but you drag it out as much as you can to be on the safe side. Floyd was allowed to delay 6+ hours!






                    2. What are you talking about? Athletes try to fool the system all the time.



                    There are three pillars in which the whole TUE system rests.

                    “The first is an honest athlete, the second one is that you need a doctor with the integrity and the ethics to not also manipulate the system, and the third one is that you need credible oversight from the sport’s governing body and then WADA,” he said. “If any one of those three things fails, then the TUE system can be abused.”


                    Here is a case where there are witnesses that know the truth yet you think that USADA TUEC gets it right every time? If done right, they just see what the athlete's doctor wants to show them:
                    "In July 2015, Rupp and his coach Alberto Salazar were accused by former members of the Oregon Project of manipulating the TUE system for performance gain and faking symptoms in an effort to be prescribed legal thyroid medications. Those medications could help with a runner’s energy levels, allowing an athlete to train with more intensity and volume. Rupp, who won the bronze medal at the 2016 Olympic marathon, and Salazar have strongly denied those accusations."




                    Options 1 & 2: Sorry but other athletes (see above example) can do it even with no help besides the doctor of the athlete. The difference here is that Floyd pays off USADA big time.

                    So USADA avoids thoroughly vetting which is just one example of what USADA should have done but DID NOT.

                    Kinda leads into "Option 3" below




                    You forgot this:
                    Option 3 - USADA thoroughly vets Floyd and finds out:
                    - Floyd's weight: There are stats for 30 days. Floyd weighed relatively the same!!! RETRO TUE REJECTED RIGHT THERE!!!

                    - Double checks with Floyd's Vitals ..... ALL NORMAL!!!! RETRO TUE REJECTED RIGHT THERE!!!

                    - Checks with Floyd's pre-fight form ..... No medical conditions reported, ALL NORMAL!!!! RETRO TUE REJECTED RIGHT THERE!!!

                    - Interviews NSAC physician ..... They agree since they checked Floyd's vitals and more. Floyd showed no significant signs of dehydration, ALL NORMAL!!!! RETRO TUE REJECTED RIGHT THERE!!!

                    - Video of Floyd saying that he walks around at 150, 148 and doesn't dehydrate his body like others .... says life is great. This was after Floyd gets the BANNED IV!!! RETRO TUE REJECTED RIGHT THERE!!!

                    - Video of Floyd BS excuses which contradicts his statements of the past 5 years. For Manny, giving blood is a bad excuse but for Floyd its an excuse to get BANNED METHOD??? WTF!!! RETRO TUE REJECTED RIGHT THERE!!!

                    - Video of Floyd saying that for his FINAL DAYS, he would be relaxing and going to the gym just a little bit to stay sharp. NO CRAZY WORKOUTs that can drain Floyd like his BS excuses!!! Floyd is a LIAR!!! RETRO TUE REJECTED RIGHT THERE!!!

                    BUT THERE IS MORE if USADA thoroughly vets Floyd
                    - If Floyd says he required it at a time where heavy training was over, did Floyd use IVs before? It would take time but this would need to be investigated.

                    - WADA says that if there are alternatives, to use that not BANNED IVs. USADA can do an investigation including what the DCO saw and videos. Was Floyd able to drink fluids? YES!!! Did Floyd drink fluids? YES!!! RETRO TUE REJECTED RIGHT THERE!!!

                    - Simple MATH - Makes no sense!!! Weighed in at 146 and previously week weighed in at 148 and week before that 149. If you do NOT drink anything, the math already doesn't add up!!! RETRO TUE REJECTED RIGHT THERE!!!
                    BUT Floyd DID DRINK adequately! 146 + drinking plenty of fluids = 147? 148? 149? RETRO TUE REJECTED RIGHT THERE!!! Floyd eats = 150? 151?


                    and I'm sure that USADA could have found out more good info!!!






                    3.
                    a) The Nick Diaz case, the WADA accredited SMRTL came back with Specific Gravity readings that are below the recommended SG values. It made the sample invalid.

                    b) LABs test too for Specific Gravity. Why duplicate the process. You know why.

                    c) There has been studies where the same urine sample was given to different testers. There was a difference in SG values.

                    d) There can be differences due to the variables that can include urine temperature, urine sample, .....


                    e) "In our experience, SG measured by the refractometer is consistently more accurate than the reagent strip. For the clinician who is interpreting urine SG results, it is important to be aware of these limitations and understand the reasons for possible potential errors of each particular method."


                    f) Remember that Floyd was drinking adequately way before he received an IV. Alex Ariza has been known to keep his athletes hydrated well. Floyd Mayweather would not be an exception. We have the video clips to prove all of this.


                    "Undetectable EPO concentrations may also occur at early times after hyperhydration at all hydration levels .


                    In addition, even in normal PK profile, undetectable EPO may also occur due to circadian rhythm of urine production


                    Hyper hydration affects at all hydration levels"


                    g) What was really in the IV and what did Floyd drink/eat during that long delay? Anything to keep the Specific Gravity values just above the limit?
                    or
                    h) May produce a darker color of urine? IV had vitamins that can change the color but what else? What else did he eat? Beets can change the color of the urine a lot, for example.
                    or
                    i) Floyd perhaps wanted a 2nd or 3rd crack at urinating into a cup. Perhaps he was unsuccessful the first time and wanted that opportunity so that he can contaminate (mask) the urine sample as other athletes have done in the past.

                    j) Finally, it's not mandatory that the DCO take or should I say, have a SG reading. If Floyd is having trouble even producing a urine sample, then there would be no urine left over to test for SG ... DCO would put a note that its OK due to Floyd's BS dehydration and expect a TUE note from the FLoyd's doctor to explain all this.

                    k) If lets say there is a low specific gravity(below the acceptable limit) and DCO asks Floyd to redo, then that would be even better for FLoyd whose goal could be to just delay as much as possible and get his urine as dilute as possible. The more delays and the more dilute, the better chance that the drug will not be detectable. Yes, even if the value is above the limit it's still more dilute and better chance to be undetectable as time goes by!

                    l) How long did this take? 6+ hours!!! Plus the time that elapsed since Floyd took his PEDs. More than enough time .....




                    4. I answered this already below ....

                    But how can someone not be able to give urine for all that time while drinking all the fluids that Floyd drank and Floyd made weight EASILY?
                    Exactly what I thought.

                    1. So you just admit that you based this on absolutely nothing because even you know it makes no sense. So now you are trying to imply he cycles off of one thing before testing, used something else throughout testing and passed, and needed an IV because what he did all throughout testing either wasn’t good enough or he got caught at a bad time. Do you realize how ******ed that all is? Look how much bs you just wrote to justify that.

                    2. HUGE DEFLECTION! It was a simple question. Why would they take option 1 over 2. Can you answer?

                    3. Another huge deflection. You said the DCO’s SPG test is flawed, yet you have absolutely no evidence besides of things a DCO should be aware of?

                    Nick Diaz doesn’t apply, buddy. That wasn’t USADA. WADA labs can test any sample no matter spg. USADA has to accept undiluted samples. You want to try this question again?

                    4. Again, you only gave a half assed answer to part B. Where is the rest.

                    Come on. You can do better than this, can’t you? I need all questions answered because they are connected. For example, how did Floyd delay if his partial sample was given when the DCO arrived. You skipped that question in #4.
                    Last edited by travestyny; 10-30-2017, 01:50 AM.

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                    • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                      LMAOOOOOOOOO. ARE THOSE WADA SIGNATORIES, YOU MORON?


                      [img]https://media.*****.com/media/l3E6uhDAN3W7vylji/*****.gif[/img]
                      they don't need to be signatories ******, so what level athlete is fluid according to the ******ny federation of ******ity, seeing you've said he is neither international level or national level, yet holds numerous WORLD TITLES and fights opponents from other countries. Why do you think that WADA and usada run sport in the world, saying you can't be international level without answering to a federation signed to WADA, your a ***ing idiot simpleton

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