Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz Fails Drug Test, Deontay Wilder Fight in Doubt

[Boxing Logic]

Starting to think that is why people are not pursing a fight with Wilder Hard. They're all Cheating and don't want to deal with WBC/Vada Testing Program or they're buying time to get clean before fighting him

Plenty of time to get another opponent, wouldn't mind seeing Adam Kownacki get a shot in his Backyard if he feels ready to go!

Of course they're all cheating, but have you seen Wilder? He's obviously cheating too. It's just somehow, only the foreign cheaters ever get caught. It's amazing how the most spectacular talents we've ever seen in terms of raw speed, power, stamina, muscle definition, agility, combinations, etc, like Mayweather, Pacquiao, Roy Jones Jr, etc, never ever got caught for cheating during their primes when they were making the boxing establishment hundreds of millions of dollars. No top North American cash cow, or cash cow period, ever gets caught during their primes, it seems like. Only foreign boxers with smaller fan bases.

Jon Jones is really the only exception in all of combat sports, let alone boxing, and I think he only got caught because he was abusing the "get out of dirty tests free" card so much, the UFC were worried they could get sued eventually for covering up the serious **** Jon kept popping dirty for. When it's an actual steroid on the test, they can't sweep it under the rug as easily as like, "Oh you had a weird balance of testosterone to estrogen today, must have just been your diet, let's try redoing the test in a week, see if it normalizes. You can have an exemption this time, due to your diet."

But other than Jon Jones, you never see the cash cows get caught. So you want to know the real reason guys who fight Wilder probably use more PEDs than the average boxer? Because they know Wilder is using every top designer product out there, at least that's what they believe, so they just want to create an even playing field. But they don't realize, they will get caught, Wilder won't. I used to think it was just USADA that played those type of games, but now I've also noticed VADA never catches cow cows during their primes either. And VADA has been the one catching Wilder's opponents but never him, failing to catch the American money heavyweight. VADA was the one responsible for testing Andre Ward before the Kovaelv rematch, where Ward added unnatural amounts of muscle in a very short time all while suddenly developing acne all over is back for the first time at 32 years of age, but VADA said Ward was clean, once again failing to catch another top American fighter who the boxing establishment has been trying to engineer into a star for the last ten years. And VADA also did the testing for Canelo-GGG, and likewise passed the North American cash cow (this time Mexican instead of American) despite him seemingly engineering a brand new Mike Tyson neck for himself in a lab over the course of less than one year, and exhibiting other unnatural muscle changes over a relatively short period of time.

So I don't know if VADA is corrupt, or if cash cow boxers are just smarter, and have more resources at their disposal, when it comes to tricking the drug tests, but one way or another, VADA seems to never catch cash cow freighters during their primes, just like USADA basically, which is why I don't trust either USADA or VADA anymore. Wlder at least looks like he's using much more serious PEDS than either Povetkin or Ortiz, and yet it's always them testing pssitive, never the cash cow or boxer they are trying to turn into one. Very su****ious.

[GMAN SUPREME]

Dddddddamn son. Hate these cheats bro in the worst way

yet your a PEDerson fan lol

[Canelo and GGG]

This banned list is ****** now ,they should remove some things from it ,guys poping on energy drinks and medications wow.

[future hendrixx]

When are y'all naive fans going to understand: Joshua vs Wilder is the cashout. No other fight is going to be allowed to risk that lottery ticket. When will y'all understand, Deontay Wilder was knocked out in the amateurs, in full headgear, against someone most of us have never heard of. Wilder-Povetkin was never going to be allowed to happen. Wilder-Ortiz was never going to be allowed to happen. It's just that it's taken longer than anticipated for the Wilder cashout to happen, due to the unforeseen circumstances with Tyson Fury, and it's gotten so obvious that Wilder is a hype job, which has resulted in the matchup with Joshua not tracking as well as the promoters expected, that the promoters have had to start pulling stunts like this to hype Wilder's name. They know they can't actually put him in real fights to hype his name, otherwise he will lose, so the next best thing they can do is at least have him sign contracts to fight in real fights, but then cancel those fights before they happened.

They even have a convenient "Don't let a drug test ruin our fight, Ortiz" quote from Wilder that he made a week ago or so, sort of the reverse of the viral Jon Jones tweet to Dan Cormier about "Last time your excuse for losing was PEDs. What will your excuse be this time?" that will now be a headline on all the world boxing news websites. Mission accomplished. It doesn't matter if they ruin the careers of foreign boxers like Ortiz or Povetkin, because the USA-UK boxing establishment has their money fight secured for next year between Wilder and Joshua. And until that happens, Wilder's chin is not going to be allowed to be tested by anyone else.

At least, that's my personal opinion, and personal theory, on why this keeps happening.

you never let me down. keep em comin.

[davef]

man what a joke Ortiz has been asking for this kinda fight for the last couple of years and goes and does this? another fight down the drain for wilder

[Feint First]

Oh didn't realise this. So what meds is he on for his diabetes?

Dunno, I meant if you look at his body type is it all that suprising he has diabetes?

Fight better not get canceled over this bullchit.

[iamboxing]

**** Ortiz, ship him back to commie Cuba

[P4Pdunny]

Say it aint so Ortiz man. Somebody mentioned that they think Wilder might have known this would happen - so it looks like he's pursuing a top fight but I don't know what to make of that.

[iamboxing]

This banned list is ****** now ,they should remove some things from it ,guys poping on energy drinks and medications wow.

The thing is that the banned list isn't a secret list. It's made known to athletes what's banned, it's not meant to trip up fighters. Ortiz chose to ignore the list and it's entirely his fault.

[sir ronni james]

can still not believe ortiz is that ******. must wait for the ongoing enquiry. dont think the fight is already off. maybe the claim with the medicine is right. at least i hope so.