Let's be 100% honest: Lomachenko will get ZERO credit for beating Rigondeaux

[NearHypnos]

Manny Pacquiao moved up from flyweight to face bantamweights, featherweights, lightweights and welterweights. He is MUCH shorter than many of his opponents like Mayweather and Horn.

Rigo moving up one division is nothing (super bantam to super feather is the same as moving up one of the original 8 divisions).

Henry Armstrong held titles in three different original weight divisions at the same time!

Height has nothing to do with it. Have you seen Pacquiao's frame? He was NEVER small. Shorter as he moved up but frame wise he was big as f uck in the lower classes. Hell, he was heavier than Floyd... Tyson was like 5'10



Manny also put on like an extra 40%+ of his *total* weight in muscle. Zero fat..straight muscle. Not odd at all. He's also got those freakishly large legs.

And who cares what Henry Armstrong did half a century ago!? How is that relevant? You think some of these guys couldnt do the same back then? Like just time capsule the current them to back then? It'd be pretty bad in a lot of cases for the old timers.

[SthPaw]

I think Loma is in a GGG-Brook type situation. If he looks good he gets little credit because of the size advantage but If Rigo has some success then Loma will get a chit ton of criticism

I think this too man...If Rigo has his moments you can bet down to the last dollar that a ton of people will come out with the classic "we knew Loma wasn't that good" and totally ignore the fact that these are two incredibly talented men in there.

[satiev1]

Same way people before were saying walters would beat him and winner of that fight is p4p then walters became a bum. Same will happen to rigo.

[iamboxing]

He's Eastern European.

[BrometheusBob.]

Nah not zero credit but not the same if he beat someone a bit younger and his size. Put it this way, there is a reason Lomachenko is a prohibitive favorite in all sports books right now.

BUT Rigo is still an A-level opponent. He has great experience and a great skillset. If Rigo doesn't come in totally shot or like a flabby mess, Lomachenko will get credit for a quality win. If it's a big KO win like I expect, Loma might even be moved to #1 P4P.

I think it'll be treated more like Crawford-Gamboa than like GGG-Brook or Canelo-Khan.

Crawford-Gamboa had very close betting odds, whereas Brook and Khan were expected to be knocked out. I think Rigo is somewhere in between these two situations. Not expected by everyone to get dominated or easily stopped, but also still a measurable underdog.

[Madison Boxing]

yeah its started already, someone said to me the win will have an astericks by it lol. if rigos as good as people say he is, the weight isnt some insurmountable gap. im really not that fussed who wins but i find it hilarious how threatened posters on here feel by fighters from europe

[RyanjLarose]

I don't give a **** about any of that. It didn't stop Manny Pacquaio from barnstorming from flyweight to junior middleweight.

Stop making excuses.

lol its not an excuse ...its fact..I dont have a horse in this one, i love both fighters. rigo signed up for this fight at 130 so if he loses he loses, ill give loma credit..if rigo wins ill give him credit ..manny pacquiao has NOTHING to do with anything that has been said here, so carry on angry child

[Motorcity Cobra]

A good bigger man will always beat a good smaller man. That's true across all sports.

But this is the fight Rigo and his 15 fans have been asking for so when he loses i don't want to hear any complaints about size.

[GhostofDempsey]

Loma was screwed regardless. Taking a fight with Rigo he was ducking Mikey Garcia, if he took a fight with Garcia he was ducking Rigo. You can't win with the haters. Once he makes Rigo quit his haters will say he was too big, Rigo was too old, yawn.

[New England]

Rigo is moving up 8 pounds, the same amount as a move from middleweight to super middleweight.

Back in the era of 8 weight classes, a move from bantamweight to featherweight was 8 pounds.

Stop making excuses.

it's a much bigger percentage of bodyweigth when you consdier that rigondeaux is 122 lbs. the guy is legitimately tiny, and when you're that small 8 lbs is a huge deal.

more importantly, he'll give up a lot of weight in the ring on figh tnight. i'm guessing about 10 lbs, or close to 10% of his body weight. huge advantage in a boxing match when somebody isn't outright better than the other. can be insurmountable when the skill level is the same.

i don't expect most of you to understand that, but that's the reality. i've shaken hands with and sat with bantamweights at a dinner table. they're literally smaller than your girlfriend.

imagine if your girl put on 10 lbs of muscle . you'd even notice it on anthony joshua, and you'll for sure notice it when the guys are 120-130 lbs.