Let's be 100% honest: Lomachenko will get ZERO credit for beating Rigondeaux

[Pigeons]

Well I know a thing about weight divisions: heres the problem with this reasoning, take 130 WBC champion Miguel Berchelt weighing 143 lbs. thirty days before defending his title -- he had already cut down to make it to 143, so whats he walking around in? obviously past welterweight ; you can see the dangers here for both the smaller and bigger man.

I'm an Andre Ward fan. I wasn't going to be making any excuses for Golovkin if he moved up 8 pounds from his 1st weight class and got outclassed by Ward.

Since I'm an unbiased boxing fan, I'm not going to be making any excuses for Rigo if he moves up 8 pounds from his 1st weight class and gets outclassed by Loma.

Golovkin and Rigo are only 2 years apart, both had an armada of fights as amateurs, and Golovkin actually has more wear and tear on his body at the pro level due to his style and just pure number of rounds boxed.

Stop making excuses.

[TheCell8]

I agree, it will be a blow out. But what I don't want to see is people hedging their bets.

If you pick Rigo to win this fight, you don't get to use the "he was too small" or "too old" excuse after he gets blown out. You picked him knowing all these variables were at play.

I know this is exactly what's going to happen.

[KillaCamNZ]

It's certainly a lose-lose fight for Loma in the eyes of fans. If he dominates, he was meant to. If he squeaks by or gets beaten, he's been exposed.

Although, potentially, this fight serves to call Rigo's bluff and shut him up, as well as shut up the fans who have been calling for this fight. Loma can finally wash his hands of Rigo and move on.

[1hourRun]

I'm an Andre Ward fan. I wasn't going to be making any excuses for Golovkin if he moved up 8 pounds from his 1st weight class and got outclassed by Ward.

Since I'm an unbiased boxing fan, I'm not going to be making any excuses for Rigo if he moves up 8 pounds from his 1st weight class and gets outclassed by Loma.

Golovkin and Rigo are only 2 years apart, both had an armada of fights as amateurs, and Golovkin actually has more wear and tear on his body at the pro level due to his style and just pure number of rounds boxed.

Stop making excuses.

You make a good argument, moving up is natural ; I keep forgetting Rigo has been in the same division for most of his career but people say he walks around 122 unlike the other fighters you mentioned ( Ward and maybe GGG ) --

but lets be honest here Ward took a couple tune-ups Rigo is very old and going straight in, so we have that to consider, but hey he should been moving up a long time ago so all cases are a little different.

I'm indifferent to this whole situation, I just want to see a good fight.

[RyanjLarose]

Rigo is moving up 8 pounds, the same amount as a move from middleweight to super middleweight.

its not the same amount at all..you have to take into consideration how much more of a percentage of body weight 8 pounds is to a 122 pound man vs 160 pound man..thats why the smaller weight classes are more closer together 118-122-126-130 compared to 160-168-175-200

[Pigeons]

its not the same amount at all..you have to take into consideration how much more of a percentage of body weight 8 pounds is to a 122 pound man vs 160 pound man..thats why the smaller weight classes are more closer together 118-122-126-130 compared to 160-168-175-200

I don't give a **** about any of that. It didn't stop Manny Pacquaio from barnstorming from flyweight to junior middleweight.

Stop making excuses.

[1hourRun]

its not the same amount at all..you have to take into consideration how much more of a percentage of body weight 8 pounds is to a 122 pound man vs 160 pound man..thats why the smaller weight classes are more closer together 118-122-126-130 compared to 160-168-175-200

This is true, to make it simple for newbies : is lifting 100 pounds the same for a man weighing 105 ( mini-weight in boxing ) to lets say the body-builder champion Anthony Joshua?

[Jadoremusic]

I don't give a **** about any of that. It didn't stop Manny Pacquaio from barnstorming from flyweight to junior middleweight.

Stop making excuses.

why bother replying at all than?
great input.

[NearHypnos]

Rigo is moving up 8 pounds, the same amount as a move from middleweight to super middleweight.

Back in the era of 8 weight classes, a move from bantamweight to featherweight was 8 pounds.

Stop making excuses.

An older guy small for his weight class is not the same as a younger guy big for his who said he had trouble making the weight. Not only that but that's not how real life works. Rigo is gaining 8 pounds (who knows where he's going to put that...Nonito was massive compared to him) as a 122 pound grown ass 36 year old man. Andre was like 5 years younger naturally moving up. Rigo is moving up close to 7 percent of his total weight...

He should just move up 20 pounds like Roy Jones jr did since its the same thing and he should fight Spence at a catchweight since 142 is welter. :/... Come on, man.

"They're only two years apart." Thats like 6 fights fighting 3 a year.

Lets out that into perspective for someone with "no bias". Roy jones went from being the king of the world, moving up to hw and getting a title and moving down and defending it...then losing three straight, two via knockout. All in 2 years. Manny went from looking like a freak to being KOd cold.

Not just that but smaller fighters tend to "age quicker" (at least that's what they say..). Look at Manny, Floyd, and pretty much most fighters...they all decline.

Loma is amazing, as is Rigo but let's not fool ourselves into thinking this isnt an incredible size difference. Gamboa looked to be better than Crawford but at those levels size makes a huuuuge difference. A guy the size of a super welter beating on a manlet moving up to a weight class he had no business being at is impressive, sure...but we all know what's up.

If Rigo wins I'd be shocked. Yeah, he's a special talent but so is Loma and Loma is rocking a massive size advantage and even youth.

[Pigeons]

why bother replying at all than?
great input.

There are many examples of small men moving up countless weight classes in recent years.

Manny Pacquiao is an 8 weight champ.
Roman Gonzalez is a 4 weight champ.
Leo Santa Cruz is a 3 weight champ.

Rigo is still in his 1st weight class. Inoue jumped 2 weight classes 3 years ago and destroyed a guy trying to set the mark for title defenses for that weight class. 8 pounds ain't **** for truly talented fighters.

Stop making excuses.