Let's be 100% honest: Lomachenko will get ZERO credit for beating Rigondeaux

[HI-TECH Boxing]

I expect Loma to get more credit than Crawford does for Gamboa, which is his best or second best win. In my opinion, Gamboa is the most accomplished fighter Crawford has fought so far.

Gamboa at one point fought at a lower weight than Rigo. When he was in his 20's so it's not like he was a teenager still growing.
Gamboa used to fight at Flyweight (112 in the amateurs at the time) and Rigo at Bantam (119 at the time in the amateurs). Gamboa skipped 119 and moved up to Feather (125 at the time in the amateurs) because there was no way he was going to beat Rigo and he knew it.
Rigo and Gamboa are similar in height actually. I've seen them side by side. Gamboa just bulked up.

Also, Gamboa was coming off a year lay off when he fought Crawford. People give Loma a hard time because he beat Walters coming off an 11 month lay off.

Whether people agree or not, Rigo is still in the top 10 or top 5 p4p by several people and media. I don't make too much fuss about p4p, it's fun to speculate no doubt, because it's just subjective, but other fighters get credit for beating p4p ranked fighters, so I expect something similar here.
Loma is #3 and Rigo is #4 according to the Ring.

[chrisJS]

Loma was at 126 in 2016. The weight isn't what the excuse makers are making out. The hypocrisy is hilarious. Loma MUST fight Rigo and then soon as he does he's ducking Crawford (who's announced he's at 147) and Mikey Garcia (who's just fought at 140).

How is that fair? Loma MUST go up 2-3 divisions and fight an unbeatable fighter, but if an uneatable fighter moves up 2 divisions (when they are only really naturally 1 weight apart) to face the ordinary Loma it's a disgrace?

[New England]

He'll get even less credit than Crawford does for Gamboa, just saying. Rigo is the one going for glory here, Loma is just trying to pick on a much smaller and older guy who has a huge name.

gamboa was a never was. who did he beat? salido? mtagwa? ponce?

rigondeaux was a legitimate talent and has one of the best wins in boxing in the last 10 years, the near shutout of hall of fame nonito donaire at or around the height of his powers. he was not a huge name or draw at any stage in his career. he was a veyr good fighter with a very tough style and good power, so we can call him a "boogeyman" and avoided, but he was never a big name or massive star.

this revisionist nonsense just needs to stop. the win will be a heck of a lot better than crawford beating gamboa. the sizes are closer, the fighter is a hell of a lot better. gamboa was fading by the time crawford got to him and he was never clsoe to as accomplished as rigondeaux, a guy a lot of experts still think is on the pound for pound list.

[chrisJS]

I expect Loma to get more credit than Crawford does for Gamboa, which is his best or second best win. In my opinion, Gamboa is the most accomplished fighter Crawford has fought so far.

Gamboa at one point fought at a lower weight than Rigo. When he was in his 20's so it's not like he was a teenager still growing.
Gamboa used to fight at Flyweight (112 in the amateurs at the time) and Rigo at Bantam (119 at the time in the amateurs). Gamboa skipped 119 and moved up to Feather (125 at the time in the amateurs) because there was no way he was going to beat Rigo and he knew it.
Rigo and Gamboa are similar in height actually. I've seen them side by side. Gamboa just bulked up.

Also, Gamboa was coming off a year lay off when he fought Crawford. People give Loma a hard time because he beat Walters coming off an 11 month lay off.

Whether people agree or not, Rigo is still in the top 10 or top 5 p4p by several people and media. I don't make too much fuss about p4p, it's fun to speculate no doubt, because it's just subjective, but other fighters get credit for beating p4p ranked fighters, so I expect something similar here.
Loma is #3 and Rigo is #4 according to the Ring.

This post exposed a lot of hypocrisy that nobody will respond to. The brainwashed GGG now Loma cuz he's white haters is whom I am referring to,

Bud and Loma are my two active favorite fighters so I can be objective on them. I agree that Rigo is a better fighter than Gamboa and both are coming up in weight and on paper will be a better win. I just hope those that put the Gamboa win as an amazing win will afford the same respect for Loma. I'll say this; that was Crawford's first fight in with a genuine top level fighter, whereas Loma has a bit more experience on that level entering this bout (than Bud did prior to Gamboa). But having played all the mental gymnastics, yes Rigo is a better fighter and thus a better win.

[Robbie Barrett]

Rigo would be Lomachenko's best win. Will he get as much credit for a win as Rigo would? No, because Rigo is the one that has to overcome the 10lb+ size disadvantage, 10lbs is huge at the lower weights. I see this as a chance for Rigo to do something great and that's why i want to see it.

[BrometheusBob.]

I expect Loma to get more credit than Crawford does for Gamboa, which is his best or second best win. In my opinion, Gamboa is the most accomplished fighter Crawford has fought so far.

Gamboa at one point fought at a lower weight than Rigo. When he was in his 20's so it's not like he was a teenager still growing.
Gamboa used to fight at Flyweight (112 in the amateurs at the time) and Rigo at Bantam (119 at the time in the amateurs). Gamboa skipped 119 and moved up to Feather (125 at the time in the amateurs) because there was no way he was going to beat Rigo and he knew it.
Rigo and Gamboa are similar in height actually. I've seen them side by side. Gamboa just bulked up.

Also, Gamboa was coming off a year lay off when he fought Crawford. People give Loma a hard time because he beat Walters coming off an 11 month lay off.

Whether people agree or not, Rigo is still in the top 10 or top 5 p4p by several people and media. I don't make too much fuss about p4p, it's fun to speculate no doubt, because it's just subjective, but other fighters get credit for beating p4p ranked fighters, so I expect something similar here.
Loma is #3 and Rigo is #4 according to the Ring.

I think Rigo being #4 is silly, he should have slipped in ranking these last few years given his lack of activity and and lack of quality opposition since donaire. But he's got p4p qualities about him for sure.

[_original_]

gamboa was a never was. who did he beat? salido? mtagwa? ponce?

rigondeaux was a legitimate talent and has one of the best wins in boxing in the last 10 years, the near shutout of hall of fame nonito donaire at or around the height of his powers. he was not a huge name or draw at any stage in his career. he was a veyr good fighter with a very tough style and good power, so we can call him a "boogeyman" and avoided, but he was never a big name or massive star.

this revisionist nonsense just needs to stop. the win will be a heck of a lot better than crawford beating gamboa. the sizes are closer, the fighter is a hell of a lot better. gamboa was fading by the time crawford got to him and he was never clsoe to as accomplished as rigondeaux, a guy a lot of experts still think is on the pound for pound list.

First off, I never said Rigo was a star, I stated he's a big name because of his status in the sport (pound for pound). You thinking Gamboa is crap is solely your misguided opinion, the fact is that he was on most people's pound for pound lists at the time. The sizes are not closer, Gamboa and Crawford were actually competing in the same weight class, it's even worse lol. Lomachenko is bringing up the smaller, older, and inactive guy up two weight classes and you don't see the problem here?

Let's recount the facts:

1. Crawford and Gamboa were both competing in the same weight class. FACT.
2. Rigondeaux competes at 122 while Lomachenko is campaigning at 130. FACT.

If anything, Loma deserves less credit than Crawford after he beat up Gamboa. Also, he stopped Gamboa, let's see if Lomachenko even beats Rigo, let alone stops him.

[chrisJS]

Rigo would be Lomachenko's best win. Will he get as much credit for a win as Rigo would? No, because Rigo is the one that has to overcome the 10lb+ size disadvantage, 10lbs is huge at the lower weights. I see this as a chance for Rigo to do something great and that's why i want to see it.

Difference between 122 and 130 = 8 NOT 10+. 10+ suggests 10lbs.

Loma was at 126 a year ago when Rigo was at 122. He is a small-ish fighter at the weight. Loma is naturally 1 weight class bigger.

But back to the original point 130-122 = 8 not 10 or more.

[RetroSpeed05]

Rigo would be Lomachenko's best win. Will he get as much credit for a win as Rigo would? No, because Rigo is the one that has to overcome the 10lb+ size disadvantage, 10lbs is huge at the lower weights. I see this as a chance for Rigo to do something great and that's why i want to see it.

Rigo is telling fans to stop with the weight excuses and weight doesn't matter in this fight. He asked for this fight he got it, who ever wins gets the same credit.

[New England]

First off, I never said Rigo was a star, I stated he's a big name because of his status in the sport (pound for pound). You thinking Gamboa is crap is solely your misguided opinion, the fact is that he was on most people's pound for pound lists at the time. The sizes are not closer, Gamboa and Crawford were actually competing in the same weight class, it's even worse lol. Lomachenko is bringing up the smaller, older, and inactive guy up two weight classes and you don't see the problem here?

Let's recount the facts:

1. Crawford and Gamboa were both competing in the same weight class. FACT.
2. Rigondeaux competes at 122 while Lomachenko is campaigning at 130. FACT.

If anything, Loma deserves less credit than Crawford after he beat up Gamboa. Also, he stopped Gamboa, let's see if Lomachenko even beats Rigo, let alone stops him.

gamboa has gone on to get his ass kicked by tomato cans . if you think he's just as good as rigondeaux, a guy who schooled nonito donaire, a hall of famer, that is on you!

he was having promotional difficulties and hardly fighting once a year at the time. now that crawford is no longer killing himself to make weight he is a big, strong jr WW and will be a welterweight soon enough. he towered over gamboa and had about half a foot of reach advantage. crawford fought in the olympic trials damn near the weight of that fight, whereas gamboa won his gold medal at the olympics as a flyweight! a flyweight!

you don't even need to read [you probably won't] what i just wrong and can use your own eyes to know rigondeaux and lomachenko are closer in size than crawford and gamboa.

crawford is going to finish his career as a welterweight, and he will not be small when he gets there! gamboa has since gone back down in weight, and was only at that weight for the big money potential. he's not fought at the full limit of 135 since then, and crawford is destroying 140 lbers with his punching power and even the lenght of his arms, and eyeing top flight welterweights when the money is good.

rigondeaux is actually listed as having a longer reach than gamboa, and they are basically the same height.


so yeah, get toasted on bscene. lol at comparing rigondeaux to part time gamboa.