Ward was willing to fight Floyd at 160 but not GGG

[MDPopescu]

Ward would have probably earned a bigger pay day rematching Froch in England, but his ego and his sense of entitlement got in the way. He's always felt he was far too important to concede anything to these "lesser" fighters. He's always believed he should be earning Mayweather money. Mayweather is the only fight he's been willing to concede to being the "B" side.

However the difference between a GGG pay day and a Mayweather pay day can be an entire magnitude if marketed right and the man is ****** enough to think he could drag Mayweather up to 168.

Ward isn't afraid of GGG anymore than GGG is of him. There's no doubt in my mind that both believe they can take the other but Ward's got his ego and GGG has a team carrying out the same reward / risk calculations almost everyone is doing these days.

The fact is once Cotto became middleweight champion the chance of GGG fighting Ward pretty much evapourated. GGG's team wouldn't jepardize a potential big money fight with Cotto / Alverez unless they could tip the scales in their favour by bringing Ward down and Ward has long proven himself not willing to concede anything for anything less than Mayweather money.

I've followed that Froch rematch "issue" in the U.K.

Ward wanted Wembley Stadium as venue... Froch proposed Nottingham Stadium instead... Ward refused...

... That's how it was...

[GhostofDempsey]

Ward would have probably earned a bigger pay day rematching Froch in England, but his ego and his sense of entitlement got in the way. He's always felt he was far too important to concede anything to these "lesser" fighters. He's always believed he should be earning Mayweather money. Mayweather is the only fight he's been willing to concede to being the "B" side.

However the difference between a GGG pay day and a Mayweather pay day can be an entire magnitude if marketed right and the man is ****** enough to think he could drag Mayweather up to 168.

Ward isn't afraid of GGG anymore than GGG is of him. There's no doubt in my mind that both believe they can take the other but Ward's got his ego and GGG has a team carrying out the same reward / risk calculations almost everyone is doing these days.

The fact is once Cotto became middleweight champion the chance of GGG fighting Ward pretty much evapourated. GGG's team wouldn't jepardize a potential big money fight with Cotto / Alverez unless they could tip the scales in their favour by bringing Ward down and Ward has long proven himself not willing to concede anything for anything less than Mayweather money.

It's a fair assessment. Each fighter wants to leverage an advantage over the other, that I get. But, for Ward to say he would come down to 160 for Floyd but not for GGG, is like GGG saying he will go to 175 for Kovalev but not 168 for Ward.

Ward has meticulously navigated his short career to leverage any advantages an opponent might gain. Thus, he stalled his career for years and wasted his prime over endless negotiations and lawsuits with his promoter. When a man really wants to fight, he fights. Ward has always been salty about his career, and he himself lost interest in the sport of boxing years ago.

A journeyman by the name of Darnell Boone is the one man who has fought both Kovalev and Ward and sparred with GGG. Having first hand experience with all three he felt GGG would have beaten Ward had they met. While that is purely speculation on his part, he is the most qualified to make that assessment.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sports...420-story.html

[zerosixthree]

I've followed that Froch rematch "issue" in the U.K.

Ward wanted Wembley Stadium as venue... Froch proposed Nottingham Stadium instead... Ward refused...

... That's how it was...

To be fair, he had a point. The City Ground has half the capacity. But still, regardless of whether it was London or Nottingham it still would have been a big pay day for him and an easy win assuming the judges are honest. If anything, Froch would have been able to pack more of his fans into Wembley than the City Ground.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Ward is a former multi weight champion, GGG is not. End thread/

[WesternChamp]

It's not on Youtube, Einstein, because IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. Ward *never* offered to fight the Triple Cheese Burger @ a catch weight. Period, end of story.

Please remove your head from your ass....

So what did he mean when he said they made ggg an offer with 50/50 split and 50/50 on the weight?? What does 50/50 on the weight means?

[GhostofDempsey]

Ward is a former multi weight champion, GGG is not. End thread/

So Malignaggi and Broner, does that make them an ATG and better than any fighter who isn't a multi-weight champion?

[Nay_Sayer]

So what did he mean when he said they made ggg an offer with 50/50 split and 50/50 on the weight?? What does 50/50 on the weight means?

Link please.

[Larry the boss]

It's a fair assessment. Each fighter wants to leverage an advantage over the other, that I get. But, for Ward to say he would come down to 160 for Floyd but not for GGG, is like GGG saying he will go to 175 for Kovalev but not 168 for Ward.

Ward has meticulously navigated his short career to leverage any advantages an opponent might gain. Thus, he stalled his career for years and wasted his prime over endless negotiations and lawsuits with his promoter. When a man really wants to fight, he fights. Ward has always been salty about his career, and he himself lost interest in the sport of boxing years ago.

A journeyman by the name of Darnell Boone is the one man who has fought both Kovalev and Ward and sparred with GGG. Having first hand experience with all three he felt GGG would have beaten Ward had they met. While that is purely speculation on his part, he is the most qualified to make that assessment.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sports...420-story.html

did you forget he said he would go to 168 for Froch and Chavez Jr but 164 for Ward???

[GhostofDempsey]

did you forget he said he would go to 168 for Froch and Chavez Jr but 164 for Ward???

GGG never called them out, they called him out and wanted him to come up to 168. Ward wanted him at 168 too, and then Ward offered to fight him 50/50 at 164 and when GGG said yes, Ward said no.

[Larry the boss]

GGG never called them out, they called him out and wanted him to come up to 168. Ward wanted him at 168 too, and then Ward offered to fight him 50/50 at 164 and when GGG said yes, Ward said no.

lol..wtf Ward never offered 164...