Hopkins beat Taylor Both Times! Do you agree ?

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lol ... eh man lets look at like this ...all of us have seen street fights ...

if your in a fight , the guy who lands more effectively wins ... no questions ask... and if you look worse than i do after the fight, i WON ... **** who was more active and whatever , hopkins finished strong and he hurt taylor in both fights badly ,... not to mention the way hopkins was countering was simply amazing... he picked his shots perfectly and landed flush on taylors face, he was hitting taylor so much in the first fight, that hopkins was making the crowd laugh , did you see where hopkins wiped the vasoline from his glove on taylors ass ???? lol hopkins was clowing the **** out of taylor , everytime hopkins wantded to hit taylor he did , i wish we could all meet up and watch both fights back to back together ... taylor got his ass whooped , plain and simple ... taylor knew he got his ass whooped at the end of the fight , he looked like he was about to cry , hopkins looked like he was about to cry to when they read the decision ... but fug it, hopkins beat taylor both times in my opinion ... **** a compubox...


sam soliman landed more punches than winky and compubox said winky landed more ??? ummm no plus sam soliman ****ed winky's face up and basically laid a blue print on winky wright

You are talking of a street fight, DAMN that just proves you don't know **** about this sport.

In a street fight there's no round to score buddy, the guy who remains standing wins.

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IMHO Hopkins won both fights, people say that Hatton beat Collazo and they mention the compubox stats & if i remember correctly Hopkins had the more landed percentabge shot. Taylor might have been the agressor but he never really landed that many punches, in the second fight the jab was working for him but Hopkins was still doing his thing(countering). I think that the fights were so close that they will alway be debated & I hope he comes in against Tarver and just let's it all go. In my opinion though if Taylor wasn't active enough to stop or at least win decisively then i dont see him beating Wright.

Didn't you read my explanation on the compu box ****?

Compu box says Bhops landed more because Bhops out punched Taylor in the later rounds that was after Taylor had already won the early rounds.

Yeah yeah yeah Taylor never landed that many shots in the early rounds but that was a lot better than what Hopkins did. Bhops almost didn't punch at all, now can you blame the judges for giving Taylor the early rounds?

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you're not scoring round by round though. you think if one guy does a whole lot in one round, then it counts as 3 rounds or some ****. this is boxing, man, get it right. Hopkins did more damage in the first fight by a mile, but he lost more rounds. that's how boxing is scored. I'm not surprised you didn't know this though because after the first fight, Hopkins said in his interview that he did more damage so he won. Larry Merchant had to explain to him that it's scored by the round. Hopkins didn't even ****ing know the way he was talking.

i was scoring round by round and i thought that hopkins did enough to hold onto his belts.
just because a guy looks like he's actually doing something but isnt, doesn't mean that he deserves the round.
if you want to go by "effective aggressiveness" taylor was more aggressive but far from effective. it was more like "sloppy aggressiveness" or "amatuerish aggressiveness"
and to give a guy the round when he didn't land anything of significance is absurd. at least hopkins was calculated in his attack and made 90% of his punches count. he made them land with a purpose. all taylor had to do was throw punches whether they landed or not and stay on his feet til the final bell and he was going to be given the fight regardless. unless it was a total blowout like hopkins vs trinidad.
the scoring system isnt the best and i think that they need to make some better adjustments when it comes to scoring fights.
i still feel that hopkins won both fights, maybe a draw in the second fight, but either way i feel he was given the shaftola.
thats me though. it's just an opinion i have about this debacle.

everyone here can argue til they're blue in the face, but you look at damage, accuracy in punches, fight plan, and overall performance, hopkins won those fights. i said it before and i'll say it again it was Hopkins vs HBO and HBO won.
HBO has spent more money on Taylor than the ever would on Hopkins, and there is more money to be made from Taylor than there is from Hopkins.
that being said, i think Winky Wright is going to get screwed too if he doesn't completely dominate Taylor from the opening bell to the final bell. unless Wright makes it to where there isnt a shadow of a doubt that he won in everyones eyes, they're going to screw him over and give it to Taylor. mark my words please. and if i'm wrong i'll admit it. but i'm about 99.98% sure thats how it'll go down..........hate if you want to, but thats a fact.

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i was scoring round by round and i thought that hopkins did enough to hold onto his belts.
just because a guy looks like he's actually doing something but isnt, doesn't mean that he deserves the round.
if you want to go by "effective aggressiveness" taylor was more aggressive but far from effective. it was more like "sloppy aggressiveness" or "amatuerish aggressiveness"
and to give a guy the round when he didn't land anything of significance is absurd. at least hopkins was calculated in his attack and made 90% of his punches count. he made them land with a purpose. all taylor had to do was throw punches whether they landed or not and stay on his feet til the final bell and he was going to be given the fight regardless. unless it was a total blowout like hopkins vs trinidad.
the scoring system isnt the best and i think that they need to make some better adjustments when it comes to scoring fights.
i still feel that hopkins won both fights, maybe a draw in the second fight, but either way i feel he was given the shaftola.
thats me though. it's just an opinion i have about this debacle.

everyone here can argue til they're blue in the face, but you look at damage, accuracy in punches, fight plan, and overall performance, hopkins won those fights. i said it before and i'll say it again it was Hopkins vs HBO and HBO won.
HBO has spent more money on Taylor than the ever would on Hopkins, and there is more money to be made from Taylor than there is from Hopkins.
that being said, i think Winky Wright is going to get screwed too if he doesn't completely dominate Taylor from the opening bell to the final bell. unless Wright makes it to where there isnt a shadow of a doubt that he won in everyones eyes, they're going to screw him over and give it to Taylor. mark my words please. and if i'm wrong i'll admit it. but i'm about 99.98% sure thats how it'll go down..........hate if you want to, but thats a fact.

Bro you don't say "it's a fact" when it hasn't happened yet. That 99.98 % is a false insinuation. You are already making an excuse and justifying for a Winky loss. Unfortunately, I believe even WINKY himself or his team doesn't agree with your sentiments or your arguement, otherwise they couldn't have pushed for this fight to happen.

Now that's what I call fact.