a draw was a horrific card too. Even the boxnation crew who all picked canelo and were riding his **** after the first couple of rounds were raving about how good a performance it was from golovkin and how he was the clear winner before the scores were announced. The pro mexican crowd were booing canelo, ggg outlanded him in 10 out of the 12 rounds. And weve got the smart arses on here making snide comments about how the people who saw it as a robbery are casuals, 'people can have different opinions' etc. Of course it was a robbery you clowns, when what seems to be 90 percent of the media see it as a ggg win, but 2 of the judges dont, thats a robbery. You boxing hipsters are worse than the casuals ffs, at least they call things how it is.
But this article is about a judge that scored the fight a draw. Is a draw really that extreme that he should be openly criticizing that judge in public?
I personally have no issue with a draw overall, but Trella's scoring of the the 7th round does raise a question. If you look over on the eyeonthering site with the 'fan scorecards', the 7th was the only round that got all 32 scorecards giving it for one fighter (in this case Golovkin of course). Then factor in that even Bryd gave Golovkin the 7th, then when you consider that Trella gave it to Canelo, it really does turn into a 'huh?'.
The eyeonthering site showed that every round had someone dis*****g the majority view, except the 7th, where everyone was aligned (even Byrd).......but not Trella. Thoughts ?
By his logic he should also have a problem with the 115-113 card. That's only one rd from a draw.
7-5 is one round away from a draw. How is that a clear win in a fight with that many swing rounds?
A lot of ppl forget defense is part of the judging as well. GGG missed almost 500 punches??? And Canelo was landing that uppercut at will... That and the body shots had GGG hesitant to go in.
I personally have no issue with a draw overall, but Trella's scoring of the the 7th round does raise a question. If you look over on the eyeonthering site with the 'fan scorecards', the 7th was the only round that got all 32 scorecards giving it for one fighter (in this case Golovkin of course). Then factor in that even Bryd gave Golovkin the 7th, then when you consider that Trella gave it to Canelo, it really does turn into a 'huh?'.
The eyeonthering site showed that every round had someone dis*****g the majority view, except the 7th, where everyone was aligned (even Byrd).......but not Trella. Thoughts ?
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A judge can get a fight wrong, a judge can get a round wrong. That's why there are three judges and not one.
I suspect that was probably Loeffler trying to be funny.
No, he's suggesting he would want judges that are biased towards aggressive come-forward fighters, which is exactly what fans SHOULDN'T want to hear. He's saying he wants judges that will give his fighters favourable decisions.
No Tom you should have had a rematch clause in the contract. You should have had a fight with Saunders by now and G could have held all the major titles forcing Canelo to fight him. You should take some of the blame for the mess.
Tom doesn't know anything about anything in regards to scoring a fight. He's right Trella is to blame for the diabolical this past weekend but so is Moretti.
If they scored the fight in favor of Canelo than there wouldn't be all this singling out judges because the right man would have won.
How can you have Golovkin winning when we don't even score jabs in boxing anymore, which was the only thing the plodder could land.
You sound so much like i would expect her to that I am going to go along with this...
What are you talking about not scoring jabs u idiot.. If a boxer is dictating the pace of the fight, putting the opponent where they want them and snapping their head back all with their jab, you're not going to score it? You sound like you don't know **** about boxing.
All the public polls, coaches, boxers, journalists and boxing community as a whole overwhelmingly scored it for 3G.
Is everyone wrong and you are right?
The judging can be improved, I'm sure. I can understand the complaints about Byrd's score, which was too wide even for people who thought Canelo won.
But this article is about a judge that scored the fight a draw. Is a draw really that extreme that he should be openly criticizing that judge in public?
And wtf is this quote?
"We wouldn't be hesitant about coming back to Nevada but we'd be more selective with the officials that were assigned," Loeffler said to Sky Sports. "[Byrd's] scoring system doesn't fit GGG's style, so that gives an argument not to have her involved.
This is a promoter actively talking about selecting judges to suit the style of their fighters. Is that really a positive message that fans want to hear, or that would play well with people who already think boxing is corrupt?
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Imagine Real Madrid, the NY Yankees or Dallas Cowboys saying they'll only play games where they get to select referees that will suit their teams style, or a tennis player selecting their own umpire. Is that what fans really want?
Well they ain't saying they get to choose the referees, merely approve them - which is what happens anyway. If a ref or a judge has turned in a scorecard which has been widely criticised as suspect I'd say it's reasonable to expect a team to object to their being used a second time. And my reading of the comment about Bryds scoring system not suiting GGGs style is that Loeffler is trying to diplomatically call her scoring ****.
Having one card a draw isn't particularly objectionable to me, hell, I ain't losing sleep over the fight being a draw even though I had Golovkin winning clearly in a tough hard fought bout. The problem is more that every newspaper article I've seen, every report on mainstream sports sites seems to have been deeply critical - not just of the absurd Byrd scorecard, but of the result itself and the sport as a whole. I'm just wondering what we're doing wrong, although I don't pretend to have the answers. Boxing has always been a sport of the masses - a populist sport - hell, in the early decades many fights were scored by crowd acclamation or the newspapers - I'm just speculating that we may have lost our way somewhat.
Last edited by Citizen Koba; 09-19-2017, 02:25 PM.
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