Comments Thread For: GGG's Promoter: Judge Who Scored Draw Must Also Take Blame!

[jonnyc420]

The draw isnt too far fetched, the Byrd card is the issue. Good close fight I would not mind seeing again.

[Motorcity Cobra]

So basically any judge that didn't score it for his fighter winning has to be lynched by the public?

So now every judge that doesn't see it the way Team GGG sees it is wrong or corrupt.

By his logic he should also have a problem with the 115-113 card. That's only one rd from a draw.

I thought GGG one clearly I had its 7 to 5 rounds what bird is the issue she needs to be suspended for life or leave at Cynthia J Ross did... the problem with Vegas if they have a very small pool of incompetent judges to select from and if they don't use them they'll pick one or two from NY who aren't much better...

7-5 is one round away from a draw. How is that a clear win in a fight with that many swing rounds?

[Bronx2245]

... and what difference would that make???... I mean actually...

It would at least give the impression that boxing can correct some of it's own problems. When you're giving refunds to bettors in Vegas, you have a serious problem:

"Heading into the decision, oddsmakers believed Golovkin had won the fight. International sportsbooks had Golovkin as high as a -500 favorite when live betting on the bout closed.

But when the decision was announced, judge Adalaide Byrd had seen things differently. She had Alvarez an easy 118-110 winner, a stunning difference from the cards from judges Dave Moretti (115-113 Golovkin) and Don Trella (114-114). The fight was ruled a split draw.

Shortly after the decision was given, lines formed at sportsbooks, with bettors looking for refunds. Straight bets on the winner of the fight were refunded in Las Vegas. Wagers on the method-of-victory props, which included an option to bet draw, were not refunded."

http://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id...as-sportsbooks

[angkag]

7-5 is one round away from a draw. How is that a clear win in a fight with that many swing rounds?

According to most, 6 decisive Golovkin, 3 decisive Canelo, 3 swing.

Give the swing rounds to Canelo for a draw, or all of them to Golovkin for 117-111. Truth as always somewhere in the middle.

Give 1 or 2 swing rounds to Canelo (ie fairer approach) and you get to the bulk of the press row scores of 116-112 or 115-113.

[Red_Menace]

Just playing devil's advocate for a second I'd say boxing needs public support more than the public needs boxing. When 70 - 75% of the public see a fight one way and the judges see it another I'd argue that it's the judges who need to figure out what they're doing wrong. If anything is turning people away from the sport it's the idea that you need to be some kind of expert to work out who won a fight. Nothing is more likely to turn the public off than being patronised and told they don't understand what they're seeing by a few self proclaimed cognescenti.

The judging can be improved, I'm sure. I can understand the complaints about Byrd's score, which was too wide even for people who thought Canelo won.

But this article is about a judge that scored the fight a draw. Is a draw really that extreme that he should be openly criticizing that judge in public?

And wtf is this quote?
"We wouldn't be hesitant about coming back to Nevada but we'd be more selective with the officials that were assigned," Loeffler said to Sky Sports. "[Byrd's] scoring system doesn't fit GGG's style, so that gives an argument not to have her involved.

This is a promoter actively talking about selecting judges to suit the style of their fighters. Is that really a positive message that fans want to hear, or that would play well with people who already think boxing is corrupt?

Edit:
Imagine Real Madrid, the NY Yankees or Dallas Cowboys saying they'll only play games where they get to select referees that will suit their teams style, or a tennis player selecting their own umpire. Is that what fans really want?

[hitking]

No they didn't. The first 3 rounds were all close enough to have been scored either way.

I scored the first even. 2 and 3 were pretty clear Canelo rounds.

[ray moe]

The draw was a fair result. If you dont like it, ask your fighter to learn to hit anything but thin air.

[Shadoww702]

It's amazing that there are so many Clown ignoramus' son this site.

I said several times that GGG couldn't win a decision but wou tbe robbed.

Corruption Greed Money !!

Mayweather jr is Partly to blame making Boxing more about Money than Sport. Nevada is mainly the problem.

Every sane person that watched the fight gives GGG 9 to 3 or 8 to 4 rounds at the most.

Canelo Lost . GGG won. I hope GGG forgets Canelo and moves on . The people KNOW THAT HE WON AND THE PEOPLE BOOOOOOOED CANELO.

Sounds like Cotto called GGG out. Saunders called him out so he don't need Canelo, Canelo needs HIM !

You scored the fight 9-3 for GGG??? You just "Bryrd" the other way I see.. Related to C.J. Ross as well I see

At least you admit to filling out your card the day before.

[Graz]

Being the aggressor doesn't win you a fight. That aggression must be effectiveeffective and much of the time golovkin was throwing blocked or completely missed punches...golovkins face was also beat the fug up, BUT if it's golovkin it doesn't matter. When it was Jacobs it mattered though....****ing golovkin fans are whiny puzzies. Gtfover.

No need for that. I agree that effective aggression is paramount. I like both fighters. I just think Golovkin won the fight. No big deal. Get over yourself.

[gbonafide]

All due respect but Tom said he was fine with the selection of the judges before the fight despite knowing Byrd's dodgy history in the past. He's a fine promoter but tries to be Switzerland too much and needs a bit of Arum in him. Triple G's style doesn't fit the way Byrd judges? Again, he's being nice. Throwing more, landing more and controlling the action should be judged accordingly. To his point, the draw scorecard from Don Trella is extremely suspect since he gave Canelo the 7th which GGG undisputedly won. As Steve Kim said his name should be Don WhatTheHella?