Comments Thread For: Hopkins: Golovkin on The Decline, He Didn't Get Better!

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  • jjsmyth87
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    #41
    Originally posted by Unsuspected
    It's not decline - it's that the last two opponents have been Golovkin's best, including a 154 lbr. moving up. I don't care about a rematch with a blown up lt. middleweight. These two fights (Jacobs & Alvarez) have cemented why Golovkin and Sanchez wanted no part of Andre Ward. All the whining about not having a 'big fight' would have been settled by just stepping up one division. The boogieman at 168 would have popped that balloon in a hurry. I guarantee Golovkin wouldn't be laughing off Ward's counter shots on his way to a 12 round trouncing or late TKO loss. All other dominant champions get called out for not moving up once they clean out their division - it happened with Felix Trinidad, Floyd Mayweather, Finito Lopez, etc. In fact, weren't people complaining that Alvarez himself had to step up to 160 to prove himself? Meanwhile, Golovkin somehow gets a free pass to keep fighting no hopers or calling out guys one or even two divisions below him. The fact is Ward would have spanked him 10 times out of ten and he and his crew know it.
    Ggg has been saying for years that his main goal is to get all the belts at 160 and he still has Saunders left to accomplish that goal so therefore he did not clean out the division as you claim. In addition there is still charlo and unfinished business with canelo who has been fighting at middleweight for years even though most have been at 155 that is still the middleweight division and Canelo was and still is the lineal champ at 160 so if ggg is a man of his word he will keep fighting at 160 until he actually does clean out the division

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    • Unsuspected
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      #42
      Originally posted by jjsmyth87
      Ggg has been saying for years that his main goal is to get all the belts at 160 and he still has Saunders left to accomplish that goal so therefore he did not clean out the division as you claim. In addition there is still charlo and unfinished business with canelo who has been fighting at middleweight for years even though most have been at 155 that is still the middleweight division and Canelo was and still is the lineal champ at 160 so if ggg is a man of his word he will keep fighting at 160 until he actually does clean out the division
      ...and the 'man of his word' is now seeking out shopworn Miguel Cotto - another smaller man who started his career at 140 and was never a true middleweight either. I guess Golovkin wanted to unify the titles at 154 as well while weighing 160 as he called out Mayweather and Pacquiao as well. He had better face his mandatory of undefeated ex-champ Jermall Charlo or he will look like he's doing his customary cherry picking. The excuse of unifying at 160 was used to avoid Ward, plain and simple. No where in the neighborhood of 'big fight' - the term Sanchez and Golovkin throw around - does the name Saunders even enter the picture. I think they mean 'big fight' against 'small guy'.

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        #43
        Yes, he's definitely on the decline. He's clearly lost a step. He has lost a lot of weight and pop on his punches, which is a sign of an aging fighter.

        Likewise, he has lost lot of his timing, accuracy and hand to eye coordination as well. In addition, he is becoming more gun shy as he progresses and can no longer pull the trigger like he used to.

        I still say a rematch with Canelo is all wrong for him. He had to work three times as hard just to get a draw with Alvarez. Moreover he is not getting any younger.

        He turns 36 next year when the proposed rematch with Alvarez is supposed to take place. If I was his handler's, I wouldn't cash him out for a big pay day with Ginger. I would attempt to unify with Saunders then move up to a 168 where he will be reinvigorated.

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        • trueblood
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          #44
          Hopkins

          Look ...I don't know another boxer who's fights i didn't look forward to than yours, Bernard. As to trying to keep your legacy.. Try being honest. GGG won this fight hands down .

          He did not box.. He fought AKA MEXICAN STYLE..

          If he dod what he did to Frenchy You would have called it a boring fight.

          The only fighter in the ring..Was GGG

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          • ruedboy
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            #45
            Didn't Hopkins say Golovkin would lose because Alvarez "..stalks guys, he beats them down, he hits them on the top of the head." lol
            It was a good fight, but it was easy to see who was the hunter and who was the hunted.

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            • kafkod
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              #46
              Why is Hopkins making excuses for GGG?

              I don't understand .. BHop is Canelo's promoter, not Golovkin's, so why is he making excuses for GGG, instead of talking about Canelo being too young and too small to beat a MW?

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                #47
                Originally posted by Unsuspected
                ...and the 'man of his word' is now seeking out shopworn Miguel Cotto - another smaller man who started his career at 140 and was never a true middleweight either. I guess Golovkin wanted to unify the titles at 154 as well while weighing 160 as he called out Mayweather and Pacquiao as well. He had better face his mandatory of undefeated ex-champ Jermall Charlo or he will look like he's doing his customary cherry picking. The excuse of unifying at 160 was used to avoid Ward, plain and simple. No where in the neighborhood of 'big fight' - the term Sanchez and Golovkin throw around - does the name Saunders even enter the picture. I think they mean 'big fight' against 'small guy'.
                I wonder if people like this actually believe the garbage they post about GGG here?

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                  #48
                  I give Gennady his due. He was forced to bite down and dig deep and he did. This fight was eerily reminiscent of the Hagler/Mugabi fight.

                  Hagler showed signs of aging and decline in his fight with John "the beast" Mugabi; A former 154lber, who was moving up in weight to challenge Marvin for his Middleweight crown.

                  It was a hotly contested fight but somehow Hagler mustered enough reservoir of fortitude and strength by snatching victory out of the jaws of defeat, while taking a real battering and beating in the process. Just as GGG did in his fight against Canelo Alvarez.

                  However, in his subsequent bout with Sugar Ray Leonard he lost.

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                  • bronx7
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                    #49
                    GGG won he is on the decline 7 years older than Canella hundreds of amateur and Olympic fights that's why you delayed this fight 2 years and will try the same with rematch prime ggg kos Canella you knew that

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                    • dannychains
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                      #50
                      best middleweight fight....turned to failure. because of a judge... boxings greatest history. how do you feel about your investment in a huge fight, all discredited by boxings corruption

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