Comments Thread For: Hopkins: Golovkin on The Decline, He Didn't Get Better!

[Mirus]

You stalled the fight 2 years he is 7 years older than Canella how did you think he would get better he also has hundreds of amateur and Olympic fights you stalled to age him. A Floyd move

35-27=8. Not 7 years.

[SplitSecond]

Of course, GGG is 35 already. He is getting older. Over the times he is getting slower and slower. I noticed it for the first time when he fought against Wade. Despite the fact that Canelo was younger, faster and had more experiences with great fighters, GGG didn't lose. But in the rematch GGG will lose. For me Canelo looked stronger than GGG. In the rematch Canelo might KO triple g.

This is true, golovkin beat canelo mainly by outsmarting and outboxing him. He showed his olympic pedigree.

[Papa Smurf]

Round 1 GGG landed one or two decent jab

The rest were pitter patter jabs that either didn't connect of were blocked

But the bias commentators were going nuts for GGG

While Canelo was landing body shots, a jab or two of his own

[Mirus]

Floyd fought Canella when he was still green instead of down the line when he would be in his prime. Plus with canellas slow feet he knew easy $. You stalled to age ggg just as you will try again before rematch punks

Even though triple g is 35 years old, peaking Canelo (one of the greatest mexican boxers) couldn't win GGG. The next time GGG will box smart. In the first fight he tried to KO Canelo. I think he understood that he can't KO Canelo. Canelo is very strong. Conversely, Canelo might KO GGG in the rematch.

[Mirus]

This is true, golovkin beat canelo mainly by outsmarting and outboxing him. He showed his olympic pedigree.

Of course, otherwise Canelo could walk through GGG.

[Bronx2245]

And so the truth comes out. They admit it. This is why they waited GGG out. I agree with Hopkins, GGG is definitely on the decline. Still won, barely, but they waited him out for a reason, and now Hopkins admits it. I will never forgive Hopkins or Oscar for ruining a potential great fight, and in my opinion it affects both their legacies, at least how I will remember them. People always say Oscar always fought everyone, BHop always fought everyone, and when I first got into boxing I believed that, but when you study their resumés more closely, Oscar picked Pernell at the perfect time, as well as many others, and so did BHop. So actually, the whole narrative about how Oscar was acting differently as a promoter than he did as a fighter was a lie, in my opinion. Both of them did the same thing during their careers as fighters as they did during this promotion. This promotion only shone a spotlight on that, and them, and caused fans like myself to dig deeper into their resumés to find the truth.

Shame on Bernard Hopkins. Shame on Oscar de la Hoya. Shame on boxing for making the same May-Pac mistake again in the very next megafight. For all the talk of "never again," and Canelo-GGG will be the fight to set right the mistake of overmarinating May-Pac, they ended up just doing the exact same **** again, and overmarinated this one until GGG was 35. 35 is NOT prime age for an offensive boxer. Not even close. And they knew that.

And you know what, shame on Tom Loeffler too, because while he wasn't the one who marinated the fight, he basically stood by. He was OK with it, because he thought it would make more money that way, and he didn't care if his fighter declined in the meantime. He just cared about the money. They used time to substitute for their own laziness, giving the fight years to "ripen naturally" when if they actually did their jobs, they could have hyped up the fight just as much in six months. Look how quickly May-Mac came together because they actually promoted it, instead of just sitting on their asses for years letting the demand ratchet up "naturally" as fans grew frustrated. They could have created that demand themselves with actual promotion, but they didn't, and the fight was another dud, honestly. Better than May-Pac, of course, but no knockdowns, not a lot of clean punches landed. Canelo looked tired all fight because he has a bad gas tank, GGG looked only slightly less tired most the fight because he's old.

Boxing still sucks. These promoters are ruining the sport. "Save boxing," Oscar? More like same old same old ruining boxing. Oscar is no better than Floyd Mayweather.

Oscar is the blueprint that Floyd Mayweather followed! The difference is that while Oscar made enemies with Haymon and Schaefer, Floyd made them his friends. Let's be real though, SRL waited out Hagler. This "marinating" thing goes back pretty far, just like bad boxing decisions! I'm glad you included Loeffler in your criticism, because they played right along with GBP plans. It would suck for GGG if the PPV numbers come in low because he will have done all this for nothing! He might as well fight Saunders to unify the titles at 160, and then call it a day! I highly doubt that he'll look any better in a rematch with Jacobs or Canelo, and he'll probably lose 8-4 to Charlo too!

[observer]

Saying that GGG grew old is doing disservice to Canelo who fought a great fight.

Personally, while I didn't see improvement in GGG, I didn't see a decline either.

Why can't we say they were evenly matched and gave us a great fight? Most people would agree GGG won the fight, but most would also agree it was a close fight and Canelo held his own. Let's leave it at that.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Before anyone says he's getting old because of his style of fighting. Remember, he is the one that said he'll take a punch to put on a show. You can have a longer career if you just chose to move your head a little and step back every once in a while.

Who has had a longer career, Malignaggi or Margarito?

[angkag]

Saying that GGG grew old is doing disservice to Canelo who fought a great fight.

Personally, while I didn't see improvement in GGG, I didn't see a decline either.

Why can't we say they were evenly matched and gave us a great fight? Most people would agree GGG won the fight, but most would also agree it was a close fight and Canelo held his own. Let's leave it at that.

My thoughts exactly.

In my book Golovkin basically lived up to expectations, while Canelo exceeded them. Golovkin still cut the ring off like a master - Canelo didn't get a second to rest, but Canelo's defence stopped Golovkin putting a beat-down on him, and also enabled him to put in some meaningful counters. Canelo sure did hold his own. Canelo's defence first got my attention during Trout - I knew it was good going into the fight, just not THAT good. Having to rethink how Jacobs-Canelo would go now, previously I had Jacobs winning, not so sure any more.

[PunchyPotorff]

GGG landed more in 10/12 rounds tons more jabs effective aggression had Canella pushed back all night ggg never stopped punching Canella fought 30 seconds a round no stamina cinnamon girl

I had GGG by a point, but your analysis is way off. Canelo did well with offense and defense the first few rounds and the last few rounds... definitely fought well, accurate punches, had an excellent defense. The mid rounds he concentrated too much on defense and not enough on offense, but still landed very accurately when he did throw. GGG missed a shiii-load of punches throughout, and even with his connects he rarely landed solid shots. And he did not cut off the ring effectively very well. And even the few of those punches he landed right on the button, Canelo took them well. I mean, I agree GGG won the fight, but don't go all spazzo on your description of the fight.