Comments Thread For: Golovkin: If I KO'd Jacobs, I Would Not Be Getting Canelo Fight!

[Diego Rodriguez]

who's ass did you pull that tidbit from ?

I said..... Hopkins was willing to give concessions in order to make a HUGE fight, but Golovkin was not

not with Cotto, or Canelo

Canelo was well within his rights to stick to his guns

when Golovkin passed on that fight at 155, Canelo should have made Golovkin wait until he had a couple of lesser fights to adapt at 160..... get some more miles on those old legs

I realize you have the brain of a pea so let's try this again. Hopkins fight that truly gave him the recognition in boxing as one of the best fighters in the sport was when he beat Tito. He was viewed as a very good fighter but the same stuff was said about Hops. His resume was weak and the division was weak. Tito opened up as a 3-1 favorite in the fight. Most boxing experts picked Tito to win. Canelo is Golovkin's Tito fight. This is his opportunity IMO to get his true respect. This isn't tough to understand even for a moron like you.

Hopkins and Tito fought at 160lbs. Hopkins 3 years later fought DLH at a catchweight. He did so because of the money and said DLH wasn't a MW. This was pretty obvious after the Strum fight which DLH should have lost.

You have to be a true ***** if you are advocating that Canelo shouldn't have fought Golovkin for the MW title at 160lbs. I get it from DLH standpoint as a business man but any boxing fan who advocates Canelo doing this is a joke of boxing fan.

I'm not sure you are a Canelo fan or just a Golovkin hater when you say that stuff. I know no Canelo fan, and I have a lot who are family and friends, who wanted to see your panocha tactics. That's an embarrassment to Mexican fighters and fans and I'm thankfully Canelo isn't a big candyass like you obviously are.

[Robi13]

Didn't they up what they were offering... I'm just saying up and till the Jacobs fight it was that 10 million right? Now after the Jacobs fight how much are they offering GGG? So before Jacobs it was we are only going to pay you so much after its oh well we'll give you so much more... Seems to me they like their chances more and are willing to open up to pay for the chance at the title.

You mean to tell me that you think canelo fights for titles? When you are at canelos level, titles don't mean as much anymore, he wants to fight the best with or without titles. Your logic is null. If that was the case he could of fought bjs for the wbo because he was mandatory to his title after he moved up from 54 as the champ

[Ake-Dawg]

Maybe in theory all the money above the purse goes to the promoter but in reality if you want these superstars to fight they are going to get their share of the PPV. Purse bid or no do you honestly think Mayweather would fight in a PPV fight if he wasn't getting a significant cut of the PPV? Without Mayweather or in this case Canelo the PPV would tank. They are the ones bringing the customers to the box office and they are going to get their cut if the fight is going to happen.

You're missing the point by applying regular fight logic to purse bids. The promoter bids what they believe the fight is worth minus the revenue they anticipate making. Anything over that is theirs since that promoter assumes all the risk financially. Superstars NEVER go to purse bid. Why? Because the promoter of a superstar that brings the revenue won't let an alphabet organization dictate how they use the superstars leverage in negotiations nor will they risk not making money off of their superstar fighting. It would be idiotic for GBP to go to a bid and let another promoter make money off Alvarez.

[yankees7448]

What's up bro , CANELO vs GGG just 1 week away man , damn it's finally here. To quote you "it's gonna be a bloodbath" hahaha
Yeah we might need to study & analyze Jacobs further cause before Golovkin , Quillin was Jacob's biggest win , cause he got KO'd by Pirog and an old light punching smaller guy in Mora floored him bad, besides that who can you really say was world class in Jacob's resume?

Jacobs has long been more potential than proven. His fight with GGG showed he belongs on that level. His loss and subsequent whining show he may have peaked.

[Diego Rodriguez]

Canelo is a side and that hasn't changed since the beginning, maybe team ggg realizes that time isn't on their side and gave in to the money portion of the negotiations, they have a gag order. Golden boy pretty much pimping k2 and gggoons

Of course Canelo is A side. Everything you are stating is just pure speculation. What we do know is the CW BS went out the door and the talk of flat fee BS too. Once DLH was serious about making the fight it happened quickly and easily. I seriously doubt Golovkin signed up to make less money.

I'm willing to bet our accounts that Golovkin will make more money than what DLH offered as a take it or leave it from a year ago. LOL!

A lot of you don't realize because you don't have as much access or don't care but Canelo took a royal beating on social media and in the regular press in Mexico when he dropped the belt. You don't understand that he has quiet a few detractors in Mexico. He is popular but he is also probably the most bashed Mexican fighter I've ever seen within Mexico (okay right there with Julio Cesar Jr).

We live in the era of social media and he's a guy who is tapped into it deeply. He's heard over and over how he ducked Golovkin. As a proud guy, especially a Mexican, I know it bothers the hell out of him. Canelo needed this fight, don't kid yourself. Had he not fought Golovkin he would have heard about it for the rest of his life in Mexico.

[TonyGe]

This whole Tito Hopkins thing is puzzling to me. Yes Tito was a very good fighter. But to me it seemed so obvious that Bernard would beat him it was ridiculous. The experts got it wrong. Bernard was a level above Tito.

[yankees7448]

You're missing the point by applying regular fight logic to purse bids. The promoter bids what they believe the fight is worth minus the revenue they anticipate making. Anything over that is theirs since that promoter assumes all the risk financially. Superstars NEVER go to purse bid. Why? Because the promoter of a superstar that brings the revenue won't let an alphabet organization dictate how they use the superstars leverage in negotiations nor will they risk not making money off of their superstar fighting. It would be idiotic for GBP to go to a bid and let another promoter make money off Alvarez.

You are so close to the truth but you are likewise using the way things are normally done to determine what would happen and its tripping you up at the finish line. There is no way Canelo would let another promoter use his popularity to sell a **** ton of PPVs without getting a cut for himself. The lack of a PPV cut WOULD BE one reason why that superstar wouldn't fight in a purse bid fight. Fighters of lesser status have to go along with things they may not like. Superstars like Canelo don't. So if the winner of the purse bid tells him he's not getting a cut of the PPV Canelo would just say well you can try selling a PPV without me in it.

So you're saying that superstars never fight in purse bid fights AND that purse bid promoters get all the PPV revenue as justification for thinking I am wrong. The fact remains that if the Purse bid winner thinks the superstar is going to fight that fight on PPV without getting a cut he's not going to have an event to promote.

[Robi13]

Of course Canelo is A side. Everything you are stating is just pure speculation. What we do know is the CW BS went out the door and the talk of flat fee BS too. Once DLH was serious about making the fight it happened quickly and easily. I seriously doubt Golovkin signed up to make less money.

I'm willing to bet our accounts that Golovkin will make more money than what DLH offered as a take it or leave it from a year ago. LOL!

A lot of you don't realize because you don't have as much access or don't care but Canelo took a royal beating on social media and in the regular press in Mexico when he dropped the belt. You don't understand that he has quiet a few detractors in Mexico. He is popular but he is also probably the most bashed Mexican fighter I've ever seen within Mexico (okay right there with Julio Cesar Jr).

We live in the era of social media and he's a guy who is tapped into it deeply. He's heard over and over how he ducked Golovkin. As a proud guy, especially a Mexican, I know it bothers the hell out of him. Canelo needed this fight, don't kid yourself. Had he not fought Golovkin he would have heard about it for the rest of his life in Mexico.

The cw and flat fee deal did go out the window because ggg as the b side didn't want to make concessions like most of past great fighters have done to their a side. Even mayerather made concession, what makes ggg so special that he doesn't have to. I agree he didn't have to make the concessions but canelo also didn't have to fight him. Praise canelo for coming and fighting for the FIRST time at 160 against the "boogeyman" of the division. Canelo made it happen NOT ggg so don't get it twisted. You speak of speculation and go on to speculate that canelo gives any F.ucks about what people say or think over social media!! Lmao that's laughable. You probably think he comes in these threads to read and see and make sure no one thinks bad of him lol. The fight is here! Who cares about anything else! No excuses when it's over either way! Only the ggg fans are making those excuses by the way

[Ake-Dawg]

You are so close to the truth but you are likewise using the way things are normally done to determine what would happen and its tripping you up at the finish line. There is no way Canelo would let another promoter use his popularity to sell a **** ton of PPVs without getting a cut for himself. The lack of a PPV cut WOULD BE one reason why that superstar wouldn't fight in a purse bid fight. Fighters of lesser status have to go along with things they may not like. Superstars like Canelo don't. So if the winner of the purse bid tells him he's not getting a cut of the PPV Canelo would just say well you can try selling a PPV without me in it.

So you're saying that superstars never fight in purse bid fights AND that purse bid promoters get all the PPV revenue as justification for thinking I am wrong. The fact remains that if the Purse bid winner thinks the superstar is going to fight that fight on PPV without getting a cut he's not going to have an event to promote.

When you understand that the promoter who wins the purse bid gets to determine how the fight is sold....you will have made great strides. Purse bids are to force fights between the champion and mando. So it's either they sign the contract sent to them by the winning promoter or get stripped.

Listen...your logic on how things would play out don't change the rules for purse bids. If anything you're explaining why most promoters with fighters that bring revenue to the table avoid purse bids.

[Shadoww702]

You mean to tell me that you think canelo fights for titles? When you are at canelos level, titles don't mean as much anymore, he wants to fight the best with or without titles. Your logic is null. If that was the case he could of fought bjs for the wbo because he was mandatory to his title after he moved up from 54 as the champ

A lot of his 155 lbs weren't even for a title. He wants the $$$$ fights more than titles. I do think they chose Liam because he then could fight Saunders if the GGG fight didn't happen. Which also would of took that option away from GGG at the same time.