So many fans don't understand why there are weight classes.

[Sledgeweather17]

Let's make this easier for you.

Who do you think punch harder? Lebron James or Prime Julian Jackson?
I think only a idiot will say Lebron. Why? Because lebron don't know how to punch. It's about technique when it comes to power.

Now
Who will be harder to knock down, given you can punch both in the face at full face? Lebron will be harder to move because he's bigger.

Being bigger have nothing to do with being able to punch harder. That's ******ed. It's all about technique and training.

Your argument is still ******ed.

You're claiming that bigger guys can absorb more punishment and that's the only difference with respect to weight classes.

I'm telling you that's bull.

Let me simplify it for you.

Deontay KTFO that Molina dude.

If say, Golovkin has the same power as Wilder according to your moronic argument, then Golovkin should be able to KO Molina as well.

That's where the crap starts. Aint no way Golovkin knocking out that guy, and if he can't knock him out, then he aint got the same power as Wilder, plain and simple.

Another scenario. Joshua knocked Klitschko down I dunno how many times.

If Golovkin had the same power as Joshua, then it wouldn't matter that a heavyweight can absorb more than a middleweight, if he has the same power as Joshua he should knock down Klitchschko with the same shots Joshua landed.

But that's crap because it will never happen. Golovkin could land those shots ten more times then Joshua did and Klitschko wouldn't fall, why? Because Golovkin aint got the same power as Joshua, I mean this is common sense.

Your Lebron example just confirms how dumb you are. Lebron aint a boxer, but if he was a boxer, he would obviously have learned punching technique like every other boxer out there, and then his true punching power would come to the fore, which would be WAAAAAAY higher than Julian Jackson's punching power.

The fact remains that power is equal to mass multiplied by velocity, which means that the bigger guys will always punch harder than the smaller guys.

[NahMean]

Power isn't generated by size. It's generated by acceleration and timing. Bruce Lee hits harder than 99% of all 200+ pound guys in the world. He weights 150 at most.


A trained 180 pound marine will destroy a 260 pound NFL linebacker. Why? How?


If Lebron James hit you in the face with full force, do you REALLY think that will hurt more than if Prime Julian Jackson hit you? James weight 100+ pounds more than Jackson.

Of course there is technique to power and ways to execute it.. Lebron isn't a boxer so his teqnique will be off so it's not fair to compare him to a boxer. But do you really believe a 6ft 7 lebron would hit with the same power as a 5ft 7 LeBron? that is incorrect.

Same with Bruce Lee.. If there was 2 Bruce Lee's and one was 6ft 7 with the same technique.. The bigger one would hit naturally hit harder. That's just physics as one is physically bigger.

That's why you get more powerful as you grow bigger/older... Bruce Lee wasn't punching as hard when he was 10 years old because he was smaller and weighed less.

[Robbie Barrett]

What? When the hell did I say that. I said that getting punched by Tyson is the exact same thing as getting punched by Trinidad if the angles were aligned perfectly. The difference in results is because of weight.

Think about this.

Tyson punches Brandon Rios with a perfectly timed right hand? What happens. Rios get knocked out.
Trinidad punches Rios with that same right hand. Rios gets knocked out.

Tyson punches Kovalev with that same right hand. Kovalev gets knocked out.
Trinidad punches Kovalev with that same right hand. Kovalev maybe staggers a little but easily recover.

The reason is NOT that Trinidad doesn't punch as hard as Tyson, it's because Kovalev is bigger than Rios hence able to take the punch better.

OMFG.

[JasonBoxing]

Your argument is still ******ed.

You're claiming that bigger guys can absorb more punishment and that's the only difference with respect to weight classes.

I'm telling you that's bull.

Let me simplify it for you.

Deontay KTFO that Molina dude.

If say, Golovkin has the same power as Wilder according to your moronic argument, then Golovkin should be able to KO Molina as well.

That's where the crap starts. Aint no way Golovkin knocking out that guy, and if he can't knock him out, then he aint got the same power as Wilder, plain and simple.

Another scenario. Joshua knocked Klitschko down I dunno how many times.

If Golovkin had the same power as Joshua, then it wouldn't matter that a heavyweight can absorb more than a middleweight, if he has the same power as Joshua he should knock down Klitchschko with the same shots Joshua landed.

But that's crap because it will never happen. Golovkin could land those shots ten more times then Joshua did and Klitschko wouldn't fall, why? Because Golovkin aint got the same power as Joshua, I mean this is common sense.

Your Lebron example just confirms how dumb you are. Lebron aint a boxer, but if he was a boxer, he would obviously have learned punching technique like every other boxer out there, and then his true punching power would come to the fore, which would be WAAAAAAY higher than Julian Jackson's punching power.

The fact remains that power is equal to mass multiplied by velocity, which means that the bigger guys will always punch harder than the smaller guys.

HAHA
you just proved my point. My point was that you punching is about technique and NOT ABOUT SIZE. Lebron with TECHNIQUE will punch harder than Lebron without,

BUT Lebron getting hit in the face by you at full force won't feel as much pain as say Miguel Cotto getting hit in the face by you at full force.

[JasonBoxing]

Of course there is technique to power and ways to execute it.. Lebron isn't a boxer so his teqnique will be off so it's not fair to compare him to a boxer. But do you really believe a 6ft 7 lebron would hit with the same power as a 5ft 7 LeBron? that is incorrect.

Same with Bruce Lee.. If there was 2 Bruce Lee's and one was 6ft 7 with the same technique.. The bigger one would hit naturally hit harder. That's just physics as one is physically bigger.

That's why you get more powerful as you grow bigger/older... Bruce Lee wasn't punching as hard when he was 10 years old because he was smaller and weighed less.

Dude you are not making any sense.

So by your logic bigger=hitting harder?
How come Mike Tyson hit harder than Tyson Fury

[JasonBoxing]

this is actually the dumbest thing i have ever read in my (near) 10 years on this site.

Get yourself down to a boxing gym and find out for yourself if a HW hits harder than a WW

I never said a WW hit harder than a HW. I said that's not the reason there's weight classes. The reason there are weight classes is because of chin. Bigger fighters absorb punishment better. It's not that they hit harder.

Weight classes is way blown out of porportions.
Tyson at 215 destroys guys that's 260.

So what's to say GGG at 170 can't destroy 220 guys?

Let me tell you the reason. Chin.

GGG will get destroyed by Joshua not because Joshua 'hits harder', there's no true measurement to if Joshua hit harder.

The reason Joshua kills GGG is because if Joshua lands a right hand? GGG goes down. GGG lands a right hand? Joshua stays up.

[Sledgeweather17]

HAHA
you just proved my point. My point was that you punching is about technique and NOT ABOUT SIZE. Lebron with TECHNIQUE will punch harder than Lebron without,

BUT Lebron getting hit in the face by you at full force won't feel as much pain as say Miguel Cotto getting hit in the face by you at full force.

If that was your point then it confirms what an idiot you are. Every fool knows that a boxer Lebron punches harder than a basketball Lebron.

I might have actually overestimated your intelligence, you're even dumber than I thought.

Seriously, why make such a pointless thread? My four year old nephew could have told you that.

[Damn Wicked]

I often hear people say that there are weight classes because of size difference. That's totally moronic. Felix Trinidad is 5'11, Mike Tyson is 5'10. They both punch the same. The reason there are weight classes is that the heavier you are, the easier it is for you to take a punch.

225 Pound Tyson can take a punch better than 160 Pound Trinidad. It's not because Tyson can 'outmuscle' or 'size' Trinidad, but because his chin is better due to size.

Anthony Joshua will beat Gennady Golevkin because Joshua's chin is 10 times better. Gennady will literally have to hit him 10 times to have the same effect as punching say Canelo once. In terms of actual power, it's the same thing. Joshua punching you in the face is the same as Mayweather if both punches were thrown at the perfect angle. You will be knocked out.

It's that the higher you go up in weights the better your chin becomes. That's it.

1. WTF do you mean? Tyson and Trinidad have the same punching power because they are of similar height ??!!!!

2. No, even the most powerful heavyweight doesn't punch 10 times harder than the most powerful middleweight. I highly doubt that they punch twice as hard. Can they always lift twice as much weight? **** NO. If Joshua let a powerful middleweight crack him square on the jaw with full power without protecting himself he would be REALLY buzzed. He may or may not be dropped, but it wouldn't be like a mosquito biting him. Jesus Christ, a 100 lbs girl can punch you in the nuts or hit you in the nose and break it. Even 300 pound , fit men aren't made of steel.

And height doesn't equal power.

[Damn Wicked]

Lol yea his neck was freakishly large.. If only Khan had a neck like that.. He'd be TBE.

It's not all about neck thickness either. Kelly Pavlick took hellacious bombs and he was a pencil neck. Khan doesn't have a particularly thin neck. Malignaggi had a good chin and he doesn't have a thick neck either. There's way more to it than just having a thick neck.

[JasonBoxing]

If that was your point then it confirms what an idiot you are. Every fool knows that a boxer Lebron punches harder than a basketball Lebron.

I might have actually overestimated your intelligence, you're even dumber than I thought.

Seriously, why make such a pointless thread? My four year old nephew could have told you that.

no not 'every fool' knows boxer lebron punch harder than basketball lebron. Because there's no evidence of this.

This is like me saying

Lennox Lewis would have been the greatest WR ever if he was NFL Lennox instead of boxer lennox. No way we can prove this.
Zero way.