So many fans don't understand why there are weight classes.

[JasonBoxing]

It's not all about neck thickness either. Kelly Pavlick took hellacious bombs and he was a pencil neck. Khan doesn't have a particularly thin neck. Malignaggi had a good chin and he doesn't have a thick neck either. There's way more to it than just having a thick neck.

Neck=chin strength. Pavlik was a horrible example, dude lost to old azz Hopkins. How does he have a good chin? If he had one, he would have walked Hopkins down.

Pauli was recently KTFO.....i won't use him as a 'good example' of good chin,

[Damn Wicked]

Your argument is moronic.

Mayweather and Pacquiao weigh exactly the same on average based on recorded fight night weights.

You telling me Mayweather hits just as hard as Pacquaio?

No, because Pacquiao's punches are harder.

Then you take it weigh out of the realm of common sense and try to tell us that Tyson and Trinidad have the same punching power.

I aint never heard anything dumber than this.

The OP has gone full blown ******!

[Furn]

Newtons second law suggests that Joshua and Floyd don't hit with the same power.

[Damn Wicked]

Neck=chin strength. Pavlik was a horrible example, dude lost to old azz Hopkins. How does he have a good chin? If he had one, he would have walked Hopkins down.

Pauli was recently KTFO.....i won't use him as a 'good example' of good chin,

Hopkins was hitting Pavlick all night long and he couldn't dropped him. Taylor (a guy who was KO'ing most of his opponents til he ran into Hopkins) and Edison Miranda (a known explosive puncher) were laying bombs on Pavlick. Kelly Pavlick wasn't a defensive fighter. His best defense was his chin and his offense. He had a helluva chin and a pencil neck. One of the best chins in the middleweight division.

Paulie before he was shot was taking big shots from guys like Cotto.

[JasonBoxing]

Hopkins was hitting Pavlick all night long and he couldn't dropped him. Taylor (a guy who was KO'ing most of his opponents til he ran into Hopkins) and Edison Miranda (a known explosive puncher) were laying bombs on Pavlick. Kelly Pavlick wasn't a defensive fighter. His best defense was his chin and his offense. He had a helluva chin and a pencil neck. One of the best chins in the middleweight division.

Paulie before he was shot was taking big shots from guys like Cotto.

Hopkins hadn't had a KO in 30 years. dude can't crack a soft egg shell ok. Yet Pavlik was hurt by him......think about it.

Chin doesn't go away so your logic of 'shot' doesn't make sense.

Shot to shyt Muhammad Ali still couldn't get knocked out despite taking thunder from Holmes. Ali had a great chin after 66.

Pavlik and Paulie have decent chins but nothing near great,

[JasonBoxing]

Newtons second law suggests that Joshua and Floyd don't hit with the same power.

No one said they did.
But even if they hit the exact same amount of power, Joshua will destroy Floyd because his chin is 10 times better. That is the whole point.
The raeson there is weight class is because of chin.

I actually won't be surpirsed at all if Kovalev hit harder than Tyson Fury.

But Fury will destroy Sergey Kovalev because Fury won't even feel his punches,

[Damn Wicked]

Hopkins hadn't had a KO in 30 years. dude can't crack a soft egg shell ok. Yet Pavlik was hurt by him......think about it.

Chin doesn't go away so your logic of 'shot' doesn't make sense.

Shot to shyt Muhammad Ali still couldn't get knocked out despite taking thunder from Holmes. Ali had a great chin after 66.

Pavlik and Paulie have decent chins but nothing near great,

1. Chins don't go away? What happened to Roy Jones chin? It got worse with each successive KO. The older a person gets, the more susceptible to KO they become. Your chin sure as hell doesn't improve after having your brain punched hundreds of times. Damage occurs every time you get hit to the head. Any doctor would tell you that.

2. Pavlick was hit relentlessly by Hopkins and he still couldn't drop him. His chin held up much better than Tarver did when he fought Hopkins. Tarver was staggering all over the ring AND Tarver was the bigger man.

[Helm]

No one said they did.

You said exactly that, not one time but multiple times.

You said that size won't influences punching power, but size influences only chin and ability to absorb punches.

Don't shy away from your BS. It's all there.

[juggernaut666]

Dude you are not making any sense.

So by your logic bigger=hitting harder?
How come Mike Tyson hit harder than Tyson Fury

M.Tyson STYLE of punching for one . At 5'10 and 215 /220 at his peak was also at his fastest as a pro boxer which also made him compact and able to generate maximum force through technique . ..

You STILL have to be able to punch hard , technique ALONE doesn't make you a hard puncher , to suggest weight doesn't effect punching power is nonsensical and to use GGG as reference to k.o 'ing a 220 pounder wouldn't prove Trinidad has the same power as M.Tyson and that only weight separates them .

Wait a second aren't you the one who made a thread claiming WWE was more dangerous than boxing or harder ? And didn't understand why the Klitcko brothers never fought since the Undertaker and Kane did ? Never mind , i'll leave it here !


The Undertaker hits the hardest ..Tombstone city !

[JasonBoxing]

1. Chins don't go away? What happened to Roy Jones chin? It got worse with each successive KO. The older a person gets, the more susceptible to KO they become. Your chin sure as hell doesn't improve after having your brain punched hundreds of times. Damage occurs every time you get hit to the head. Any doctor would tell you that.

2. Pavlick was hit relentlessly by Hopkins and he still couldn't drop him. His chin held up much better than Tarver did when he fought Hopkins. Tarver was staggering all over the ring AND Tarver was the bigger man.

1-Dude your boxing knowledge is so bad. No offense bro we both boxing fans but Roy never had a good chin. It didn't get 'worst' lmao, what a myth. Roy always had a glass jaw, his reflexes saved him from getting knocked out. The moment his reflexes left, he kept going down.

2-When did I say ALL BIGGER MEN have better chins than smaller men? I said MOST and that is the reason for weight classes.