It Don't Look Good For Saul/Lil G

[Combat Talk Radio]

If history is any indicator, the fight is going to tank...and badly.

Floyd/DLH did 2.4M buys. The next PPV fight after (Pac/Barerra II) did 350K buys.

Pacquiao hadn't become "known" when the Barrera fight was signed. Up to that point he hadn't fought anybody worth mentioning.

Floyd/Canelo did 2.2M buys. The PPV fight after that (Bradley/Marquez) did 375K buys.

Bradley was getting picked on by boxing smarks who blamed him for the PacBradley judging and a Provodnikov fight those same smarks felt he lost.

Floyd/Pac did 4.6M buys. The next PPV fight (Floyd/Berto) did 400K buys.

It's Andre Berto. It wasn't going to end well. The only way Floyd was going to exceed the Pacquiao number was to rematch Pacquiao and he knew that.

I will go on record right now as predicting it does under a million buys.

I say 1.5 million+. Reason: It's Canelo. His whole country will watch him fight.

[Diego Rodriguez]

BHop's resume before Tito has him in against better folks than Lil g's prior to this year.

There is really no argument in that respect.

And as far as BHop fighting smaller men in Tito and Oscar, you can't compare that to anything Lil g has done and still Lil g favorably.

BHop waited for those guys to fight at higher weights. He didn't ask them to come up two weight classes for a "one and done
freakshow".

Hopkins prior to Tito is still a much tougher road than what we have seen Lil g do. Especially given the fact that BHop didn't fight a bunch of guys making there debut at 160. By contrast, Lil g fought many coming up in weight for the first time...like he is doing with Canelo.

Sorry but who are all these top fighters that Hopkins beat prior to Tito? Best fighter was RJJ and he lost. Simon Brown was pretty good but also clearly past his prime. Glen Johnson was probably his best win but was considered a journeyman until late in his career when he pulled out some nice win. Hops hardly had a resume pre-Tito that was much better than Golovkin. Saying there really is no argument is just a way to push an uncomfortable truth away for the Golovkin haters. The reality is Hops and Golovkin up to the point of their first hyped huge fight were in very similar positions.

Tito wasn't claiming the middleweight championship as Canelo was. Martinez to Golovkin was the logical path the title should have gone. The smaller guy (Cotto) stepped in. So of course Golovkin wanted all the titles and that meant beating Cotto. Canelo (who has easily been able to fight at Middleweight) stepped in and is the lineal champion. So of course he'd want that fight.

If you are referring to Kell Brook moving up two weight classes, Golovkin didn't ask him to move up. Brook saw an opportunity because Eubanks pulled out at the last minute. Golovkin even said after the fight that after feeling Brook's power he knew he wasn't a Middleweight. He was honest. Just like Hopkins who prior to the DLH fight said DLH was no middleweight. Brook was more of MW physically than DLH was.

At best Hops competition that he beat prior to the Tito fight was marginally better than Golovkin's up to this point. I know for sure that people in boxing weren't sold on Hops like they are today. Again it was no accident he was an opening 3-1 dog vs Tito.

But whatever people who want to believe there is some vast difference between the two up to this point in their careers will continue to do so.

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

**** it once the highlight reel of GGG getting knocked out starts making the circuits sunday morning everyone gonna wish they watched it. CANELOLUJAH next fight will be for 15 million PPV!

[-Kev-]

There's no correlation. It has to do with the match up and names.

But anyway I already predicted this fight will do 650-750k, 800k tops, which to me is great. It has nothing to do with May-McGregor. It has more to do with Canelo really doing most of the heavy lifting in bringing in fans to pay for the fight. GGG is not a superstar who brings PPV buys.

People predicting 1million or 1 million+ are being unrealistic and they expect Canelo and his Latino fanbase to do a lot of PPV buying which could not even happen with the 900k for Canelo-Cotto, a bigger money fight with two big names, and two huge fanbases that drive PPV sales high every time they clash, rather than just 1 fighter and some guy from Kazakhstan.

[kilojay505]

you don't count to good brother.

4 million ppv at $100 = 400 million

Floyd contract 100 million
conor contract 30 million

that's 270 million left. thats double what they paid

and that's not counting the actual gate, movie theater tickets, merchandise, concessions

Showtime is winning

Floyd actually gets a cut of the ppv , gate and merchandise.

[kilojay505]

If history is any indicator, the fight is going to tank...and badly.

Floyd/DLH did 2.4M buys. The next PPV fight after (Pac/Barerra II) did 350K buys.

Floyd/Canelo did 2.2M buys. The PPV fight after that (Bradley/Marquez) did 375K buys.

Floyd/Pac did 4.6M buys. The next PPV fight (Floyd/Berto) did 400K buys.

The projections for Floyd/Mac, even by haters, has it over 4M buys.

Which means Canelo/Lil G might be in trouble.

I will go on record right now as predicting it does under a million buys.

And thats when streaming was no where as popular as it is today

[Diego Rodriguez]

Pacquiao hadn't become "known" when the Barrera fight was signed. Up to that point he hadn't fought anybody worth mentioning.



Bradley was getting picked on by boxing smarks who blamed him for the PacBradley judging and a Provodnikov fight those same smarks felt he lost.



It's Andre Berto. It wasn't going to end well. The only way Floyd was going to exceed the Pacquiao number was to rematch Pacquiao and he knew that.



I say 1.5 million+. Reason: It's Canelo. His whole country will watch him fight.

1.5MM is my prediction too, don't see it not at least exceeding 1.2MM of Chavez-Canelo. I'm curious to see how much of a push there is in the final two weeks in marketing.

[brettWall]

LOL at these fake fans praying too hard to see this real fight fail in the box office, while supporting and defending a fake fight between an amateur and the so-called best ever in boxing.

With or without your support, this fight would do well. Besides, the people behind it, promoters, fighters, network, are not as greedy. It won't cost you a ridiculous amount of $100. I don't even see any reason why people would want to boycott this fight.

You're on the wrong side, fellas.

[soul_survivor]

If history is any indicator, the fight is going to tank...and badly.

Floyd/DLH did 2.4M buys. The next PPV fight after (Pac/Barerra II) did 350K buys.

Floyd/Canelo did 2.2M buys. The PPV fight after that (Bradley/Marquez) did 375K buys.

Floyd/Pac did 4.6M buys. The next PPV fight (Floyd/Berto) did 400K buys.

The projections for Floyd/Mac, even by haters, has it over 4M buys.

Which means Canelo/Lil G might be in trouble.

I will go on record right now as predicting it does under a million buys.

Under a million buys? Wow you are nostradum...not.

ffs you idiot, obviously its going to do less than a mill, the big prediction is whether or not it does 500k.

[koolkc107]

There's no correlation. It has to do with the match up and names.

But anyway I already predicted this fight will do 650-750k, 800k tops, which to me is great. It has nothing to do with May-McGregor. It has more to do with Canelo really doing most of the heavy lifting in bringing in fans to pay for the fight. GGG is not a superstar who brings PPV buys.

People predicting 1million or 1 million+ are being unrealistic and they expect Canelo and his Latino fanbase to do a lot of PPV buying which could not even happen with the 900k for Canelo-Cotto, a bigger money fight with two big names, and two huge fanbases that drive PPV sales high every time they clash, rather than just 1 fighter and some guy from Kazakhstan.

Exactly.

Two of the biggest names in boxing couldn't break 1M.

Add to that May-Mac scooping up a lot of casual money (with a lot of those casuals once again disappointed that Floyd yet again failed to get his ass kicked).

This thing is going to tank badly.

Without the freak show Aug 26th, there is no doubt in my mind it would have got near or topped 1M.

Now?

No way that happens.