Comments Thread For: Golovkin, Sanchez on The Long Wait To Secure Canelo Clash

[Shadoww702]

Because he was the Middleweight Champion. If he wanted to be the MW Champion then fight the title at 160lbs. If you don't want to be the champion drop the title. That includes DLH's Ring Magazine who had/have him as the Middleweight Champion.

I think asking Canelo to move up in weight when he is claiming to be the Champion of the MW division and asking a guy like, oh let's say Floyd to move up is a big difference.

Fighters move up all the time for fights and belts and then go back down. Roy Jones was HW Champion. So your saying he should of stayed there??? GGG was trying to fight Froch and you know damn well he wouldn't of stayed at 168.

[Diego Rodriguez]

I get that Canelo could possibly have made the fight sooner

I don't get that posters ignore the fact that Golovkin could also have made the fight sooner

also, is insinuating that Canelo waited for Golovkin to get old..... ..... saying that Golovkin is cashing out?

it just sounds like an excuse

There is no doubt Canelo could have made the fight sooner (or should I say DLH). There is a lot of doubt that Golovkin could have made the fight.

The weight issue was BS and everyone knows it. Unless Golovkin had fought for some ridiculous purse and agreed to everything else I'm still doubtful DLH would have made the fight. He was the scared guy not Canelo. I have no doubt Canelo would have taken the fight. DLH did not want to fight Lara but Canelo made that fight happen. It almost back fired and I'm sure DLH had that card in his back pocket.

What ever you may think about DLH you can't disagree that from a PPV standpoint that he has credibility with boxers based on what he was able to accomplish.

[Diego Rodriguez]

Fighters move up all the time for fights and belts and then go back down. Roy Jones was HW Champion. So your saying he should of stayed there??? GGG was trying to fight Froch and you know damn well he wouldn't of stayed at 168.

All the time? RJJ is well known, we also know what happened to him after doing that. Give me many examples where well known fighters bumped up and down in weight. Kell Brook did, also didn't work out well for him when he went all the way back down. Also in both those cases they were already established champions at their weight class. RJJ had basically already done everything asked for when he moved up.

Jumping up and down between weight classes isn't done all the time as I see it and the higher the weight and the older you get the harder it is to do.

[aboutfkntime]

There is no doubt Canelo could have made the fight sooner (or should I say DLH). There is a lot of doubt that Golovkin could have made the fight.

The weight issue was BS and everyone knows it. Unless Golovkin had fought for some ridiculous purse and agreed to everything else I'm still doubtful DLH would have made the fight. He was the scared guy not Canelo. I have no doubt Canelo would have taken the fight. DLH did not want to fight Lara but Canelo made that fight happen. It almost back fired and I'm sure DLH had that card in his back pocket.

What ever you may think about DLH you can't disagree that from a PPV standpoint that he has credibility with boxers based on what he was able to accomplish.

kid, I will leave it

this has been done to death

you are a fkn idiot

I am absolutely sick and tired of you ignorant ****-stains


Golovkin Would Fight Ward at 168 and Canelo at 154.....

http://thaboxingvoice.com/golovkin-aims-high-and-low-would-fight-ward-at-168-and-canelo-at-154/15398?var=no

lil'G also refused a 8-figure offer to fight Canelo at 160

[TonyGe]

kid, I will leave it

this has been done to death

you are a fkn idiot

I am absolutely sick and tired of you ignorant ****-stains


Golovkin Would Fight Ward at 168 and Canelo at 154.....

http://thaboxingvoice.com/golovkin-aims-high-and-low-would-fight-ward-at-168-and-canelo-at-154/15398?var=no

lil'G also refused a 8-figure offer to fight Canelo at 160

Haven't you heard? Canelo and Golovkin are fighting in Sept. at 160 pounds.

[aboutfkntime]

Haven't you heard? Canelo and Golovkin are fighting in Sept. at 160 pounds.

that is why I have decided to stop entertaining the fools

Canelo can take care of that in a couple of weeks

not sure who will win that fight, but I am praying for a cleanout of the second worst fanbase in the history of boxing

and hopefully it happens in true Marquez-style

[Diego Rodriguez]

kid, I will leave it

this has been done to death

you are a fkn idiot

I am absolutely sick and tired of you ignorant ****-stains


Golovkin Would Fight Ward at 168 and Canelo at 154.....

http://thaboxingvoice.com/golovkin-aims-high-and-low-would-fight-ward-at-168-and-canelo-at-154/15398?var=no

lil'G also refused a 8-figure offer to fight Canelo at 160

Speaking of Marquez here's what he had to say about this offer.

"They are really punishing Gennady Golovkin [by offering a flat fee] .... because it's just a way to avoid to Golovkin, it's a way of saying we do not want the fight."

http://www.boxingscene.com/marquez-canelo-flat-fee-offer-avoid-golovkin--109369

As Loeffler said:

“There were some preliminary discussions with (Golden Boy),” Loeffler wrote in a text. “But nothing of substance that was turned down. (Golovkin) would have fought Canelo last May if that would have been possible (before Canelo vacated the title to his mandatory Golovkin).”

You obviously have never done any type of serious negotiating in your life. You going down to the swap meet and haggling over which plunger you're going to buy to unclog your daily mess isn't negotiating fool.

When you start right off the bat with a terrible offer you aren't serious about making a deal.

This was for the Middleweight title not the Junior Middleweight title. Even in Mexico Canelo got heat for all this BS that DLH was pulling. Social meeting was down right nasty. There are many Mexicans and Mexican-Americans who are pulling for Golovkin like I've never seen when a non-Mexican is fighting a Mexican. Obviously the vast majority will root for Canelo but a lot of Mexicans were totally embarrassed by Canelo. Mexican fans know this was crap, and I know it was DLH's doing not Canelo.

But the fight is here, it is at 160lbs where it should be. May the better fighter win. I'm excited and hold no ill will on anyone associated with this fight. I'm sure the f'n haters like you will continue attacking because that's what losers do.

Now get back to unclogging your toilet because you made another mess.

[aboutfkntime]

Speaking of Marquez here's what he had to say about this offer.

"They are really punishing Gennady Golovkin [by offering a flat fee] .... because it's just a way to avoid to Golovkin, it's a way of saying we do not want the fight."

http://www.boxingscene.com/marquez-canelo-flat-fee-offer-avoid-golovkin--109369

As Loeffler said:

“There were some preliminary discussions with (Golden Boy),” Loeffler wrote in a text. “But nothing of substance that was turned down. (Golovkin) would have fought Canelo last May if that would have been possible (before Canelo vacated the title to his mandatory Golovkin).”

You obviously have never done any type of serious negotiating in your life. You going down to the swap meet and haggling over which plunger you're going to buy to unclog your daily mess isn't negotiating fool.

When you start right off the bat with a terrible offer you aren't serious about making a deal.

This was for the Middleweight title not the Junior Middleweight title. Even in Mexico Canelo got heat for all this BS that DLH was pulling. Social meeting was down right nasty. There are many Mexicans and Mexican-Americans who are pulling for Golovkin like I've never seen when a non-Mexican is fighting a Mexican. Obviously the vast majority will root for Canelo but a lot of Mexicans were totally embarrassed by Canelo. Mexican fans know this was crap, and I know it was DLH's doing not Canelo.

But the fight is here, it is at 160lbs where it should be. May the better fighter win. I'm excited and hold no ill will on anyone associated with this fight. I'm sure the f'n haters like you will continue attacking because that's what losers do.

Now get back to unclogging your toilet because you made another mess.

don't talk rubbish

both parties start at either end, and then meet in the middle

Team Bull**** have been lying to their idiot fans for YEARS

stop being a mug

this is how a negotiation works.....

if you do not like the original offer, but are interested in the fight..... then you make a counter-offer

"Oscar De La Hoya..... made an “eight-figure offer” to Gennady Golovkin promoter Tom Loeffler a month ago and never heard back.....

..... 30 days ago I made an offer to GGG and his people. I made an eight-figure offer. I believe it’s an offer that was two, three, four times what he’s ever made and haven’t heard back. And that’s the bottom line.....

..... All I need is for GGG and his people to at least call us back and negotiate and to take the offer,” De La Hoya said. “GGG has said that he’s not a businessman and he’s said publicly that Canelo is going to offer him $2 million. Well, guess what? There’s an eight-figure number on the table for Golovkin. Sign the contract and let’s stop with this nonsense.”"

https://www.ring tv.com/465555-oscar-says-made-eight-figure-offer-ggg/


also, stop crying about another mans money

stop insinuating that was a low-ball, when the word on the street is that Golovkin accepted LESS than Hoya's original offer.....

http://www.boxing news24.com/2017/03/de-la-hoya-says-golovkin-must-accept-generous-offer-canelo-fight/

seriously, how fkn dumb is that..... ?

accepting LESS than Hoya's original offer, means that there was nothing to stop Golovkin from taking that fight 12 months ago

[aboutfkntime]

before the fight was made:

Oscar De La Hoya..... made an “eight-figure offer” to Gennady Golovkin promoter Tom Loeffler a month ago and never heard back..... "All I need is for GGG and his people to at least call us back and negotiate"


after the fight was made:

"Look, it was not that complicated [to get the Canelo-Golovkin deal done]. It was not so difficult. To tell you the truth, all that was needed was to sit down to negotiate."


Golovkin lost his pen, and Loffler lost his phone..... then they accepted a WORSE deal than Hoya originally offered.....

..... but yea, let's blame Canelo LMAO

[robbyheartbaby]

??? I HIGHLY doubt bigger fighters would of avoided him. Next your gonna say Andre Ward was scared of him.

So he doesn't move up but Canelo who started out at 139 has to EVERY time one of these QUACKS want him to??? Kind of ***ed up logic there??? REALLY hypocritical IMO.

My boxer doesn't have to move up but your does???

Dude you're clutching at straws, I know all there is to know about Canelo and where he started his career and when, so don't pull that crap on me. Canelo is at his natural weight right now.